Safest Mod Models?

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Six3

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Just starting to contemplate switching from an eGo to a mod of some sort, for an enhanced experience.

After reading all about mods and batteries I am trying to understand everything as well as be cautious/informed as to which ones might potentially be safer or have safer features built in.

I guess Im just looking for the best all around device, but not sacrificing safety at all!

Any thoughts? Thanks. 6
 

Six3

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I know what your saying and thats good to know, unless it shorts out :p

For example, I was going over the precautions though, and mods that use li-ion were at the bottom of the list compared to the other two types of batteries being used currently. These are the kinda things Im trying to consider and not overlook (Im still new and don't know all the right questions to ask yet).

Im just looking for the safest route I suppose.
 

luka

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I got myself Omega because of the vent holes.

On safety, I think you also should pay attention to the bat-atty adapters if you plan to use different attys. I have couple of 510-801 adapters which require some tuning before usage - otherwise they can short the battery with 801 atomizer on.

Would a plastic drip tip be safer for teeth than a metal one? After I got my 6v mod I switched to plastic from metal just in case :)
 

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This is an interesting question, but one that is potentially 'hot'.

Everyone has their own views, and many disagree on just about everything to do with this subject. The ECF position is that user error is the cause of most issues but that this is inevitable and mods should take this into account. Also there might be battery failures even where everything was done correctly, as no battery can be called absolutely safe, plus we are subjecting them to a heavier demand than they are built to take - attys pull more current than some batts are designed for.

We're trying to put together a guide that most people will agree on, based on the battery safety issues. The current position is basically this:

1. A mod needs some safety features because you can't guarantee even the best battery will not develop a fault, and also sometimes people make mistakes.

2. A single-battery mod is probably safer as there are less issues. However, if everything is properly taken care of, HV mods should be be no problem.

3. Small battery mods (whether 1 or 2 battery) are not intrinsically safe and can't be, no matter what battery is used, as the duty cycle exceeds what the battery is designed to deliver. Batteries blow because there is some kind of fault somewhere, then they are over-driven. If you remove the over-driven part of the equation then there is a much bigger safety margin.

4. To decide if a battery can handle the load an atty will demand, look at its drain rate. That might be quoted as the actual figure (like 500mA) or as a proportion of C (its capacity). The drain rate has to be 1.5 amps minimum or it can't handle an atomizer safely especially when there is some sort of battery fault. 1 amp is about the lowest acceptable. Therefore if the drain is quoted as 550mA then that battery cannot be safely used in a mod, and especially with two batteries as that will increase the risk. If a battery has a quoted capacity of 650mAh and the drain is 2C, then the drain is 1300mA - maybe just enough but it's borderline. Ideally you need a batt with a drain of 1.5A / 1500mA or better. Many batteries used currently don't comply, which is a risk factor.

We're currently working on a list of suitable batteries and chargers. Till that's done your best bet is to buy a mod with the largest battery you can personally accept, and/or buy an AW IMR Li-Mn battery / batteries for it. This is ESPECIALLY important if you are using small batts like the RCR123 or 14500 format. As I understand it, nothing smaller than this will be suggested as suitable - but this is not my department.

Check with the vendor what batts will fit. The protected Li-ions are a bit longer than the unprotected ones and mods often only work with one or the other. A mod that only fits unprotected batts is fine if you can fit an AW Li-Mn batt, in fact that's possibly the best choice.

The risk is higher when a mod has no safety features and uses small batteries.
 
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Any mod that uses a regulator will be inherently SAFER , because MOST ( and I say Most ) regulators have the protection built into them 1. over current 2. reverse battery 3. over temp. etc. ( not all regulators have this built in ) and the maker of the MOD will tell you about these protections .

There are 2 basic types 1. Linear 2. PWM (pulse width modulation ) both have some sort of safety built in ( refer to the MFG data sheet )

Anyhow even a simple Fuse is much better that nothing.

The protection circuits built into the batteries is another level of protection BUT I have had them fail on me in the past so ??
IMO in this day and age using electronics is the way to go provided that the circuit is designed correctly !!

I know that many people are turned off to anything electronic because of the massive failures of the CHINESE built stuff so electronics has gotten a BAD name , this is not the case ! properly designed and built electronics are very sturdy just look at a cell phone or MP3 player or !!!!

AS a MFG of electronics and mechanical devices for 17 yrs I can tell you that properly built and designed electronics can last a LONG TIME .
 

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NiMH do not vent I believe.

Incorrect, NiMH are less likely to have a catastrophic battery failure (blow up), but they do vent (flaming vent occurrence) if reverse polarized...

So far the only 'safe chemistry' batt I've seen used is not widely known, NiZn, not many using them yet, but some good results so far: Heads up on NiZn batteries...
 
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