safety assistance ego with rba

[Dominic Brillantes]

Hi im new to vaping . My friend gave me an ego c twist. I dont know if it is 900mhz or 600mhz. My first atomizer is a ce5

My question is that i bought a phoenix v3 rebuildable atomizer.

And it is my first time trying to build a coil and i dont have an ohm meter.

Is it safe to follow videos on basic rebuilding and can my ego c twist handle a phoenix v3 atomizer?

I always charge my ego c twist 6hrs a day. And always on 4.8voltz when i use it

Thanks in advance

 

[tBERGz]

I personally wouldn't recommend doing this without an ohm reader. I bought a rebuildable Helios and made my own coils, using an MVP battery. Come to find out my coils were at about .4 ohms.

Stay safe!

 

[Susan~S]

You must have an ohm reader if you are going to be rebuilding. You risk venting your battery if you have a short or your build is too low for the amp rating of your battery.

Most ego type batteries have an amp rating of 2 amps. I would not build a coil lower than 1.8 ohms BUT you won't know the ohm of your coil (or if you have a short) until you measure it with an ohm reader.

 

[lamarrk]

Moving to New Members.

 

[Grimwald]

An ohms meter will not only keep you safe and protect your equipment (and your face perhaps), it will also take a lot of the frustration out of rebuilding. You will know your coil resistance and detect shorts before you ever connect it to your battery.

 

[sparkky1]

Dominic Brillantes, if you are at the point where you feel the need to build coils then you should also be at the point where you don't use variable twist ego battery's for rebuildable attys, THIS DEVICE IS FOR EXPERTS AND VETERANS ONLY! that's what the smart websites advertise.
You MUST have a way to accurately read the ohms after building a coil and for the love of gog buy a separate mod with a high drain 20 - 30 amp battery when your ready.

 

[Altaire Versailles]

why would you want to put an rba on an ego anyway? You need a mod, your vape is gonna suck on that battery. And like everybody else said, if youre going to build you need something that can tell you the resistance of what you built, you never want to blindly build a coil and fire it not knowing what you got if you value your face

 

[CraZcracker]

An ego twist is a simple starter kit..you have an advance tank on top and no clue what ohm you are trying to run..if you want to get into rebuilding right away, go right away and get the right stuff that it shows you in the video..as I assume the person wrapping coils is using an ohm reader and a VV/VW MOD OR mech mod to fire that bad boy..it's simple to over load an ego or anything else for that matter when not using the right equipment and knowledge of what you're working with..do it right and stay safe buddy..

 

[drunkenbatman]

Hey mate,

Yeah, you can run a single coil with that on an evod just fine. You have limited amperage and such, so your best bet is going to be a microcoil at around 1.3-1.5 ohm which will give you a surprising amount of vapor. Please be smart about this and invest in a $5 multimeter, but yeah entirely workable.

 

[novamatt]

Hey mate,

Yeah, you can run a single coil with that on an evod just fine. You have limited amperage and such, so your best bet is going to be a microcoil at around 1.3-1.5 ohm which will give you a surprising amount of vapor. Please be smart about this and invest in a $5 multimeter, but yeah entirely workable.

These batteries generally have a 2 amp limit, or somewhere near there. You need to stay at 1.8 ohms or higher. And I'm with the people who say an RBA on an ego is not going to work very well. Get yourself a good variable mod that will read ohms and let you fire lower resistance coils. If you need to stay with the twist battery, order a Nautilus Mini to put on top of it and lose the dripper.

 

[drunkenbatman]

These batteries generally have a 2 amp limit, or somewhere near there. You need to stay at 1.8 ohms or higher.

D'oh! Well, you should double check the amps on the battery. I've 100% used little microcoils on these though, and it was entirely respectable for what it was.

 

[bwh79]

These batteries generally have a 2 amp limit, or somewhere near there. You need to stay at 1.8 ohms or higher.

Do you have a source for this info? I'm just wondering, 'cause I'm curious what the amp rating on my battery (Kanger EVOD twist, 650mAh) is. It goes up to 4.8v and came stock with a 1.5ohm head which, if my math is correct, would be drawing 3.6 amps, and I haven't blown myself up yet. Am I flirting with danger if I keep it up?

 

[rurwin]

No. For all that the folks keep telling you it's dangerous, the Twist is protected against low ohms. It will supply only so much current, reducing the voltage as necessary. If you put a dead short across it it will just flash its LED and not supply any power. (But I still wouldn't court danger by relying on that too often; electronics can always fail. It's always better to know what you are asking it to do and how close to its limits you are.) And it's perfectly possible to use it with an RBA, I did it myself while FastTech took ages to deliver my VV/VW mod. It just doesn't give you all the power you may want nor the feedback to tell you what to do to improve matters. It also looks rather strange with a 22mm tank on top of a 15mm battery.

But, that said, unless you know the resistance of your coil you are working in the dark, and you know little enough already without that. You'll be a whole lot less confused if you get that resistance meter.

 

[drunkenbatman]

Do you have a source for this info? I'm just wondering, 'cause I'm curious what the amp rating on my battery (Kanger EVOD twist, 650mAh) is. It goes up to 4.8v and came stock with a 1.5ohm head which, if my math is correct, would be drawing 3.6 amps, and I haven't blown myself up yet. Am I flirting with danger if I keep it up?

I double checked, and they're usually 2.5-3 amp, but depending can range from 2.2 to 3. So he's off on the specifics, but right in the way it counts and it's always good to double check your battery amperage. A few notes:

1. Egos generally have short and overdraw protection -- but YMMV when it comes to random kit. If yours comes with 1.5ohm coils you're probably good.

2. Once you reach the amp limit, many will regulate the amp limit so turning up the voltage won't actually increase the voltage. So if you're at 1.5ohm, going up to 4.8v won't cause it to go bume. If it's lacking it, you'll end up having to trash the battery.

3. 1.5ohm - 2ohm is probably the sweet spot for that setup, depending on the cutoff and style of coil.

 

[HMav]

OP, to be perfectly honest, I am a terribly pedantic person. Rebuilding is an advanced topic that requires at least a basic understanding of electricity. Although most of us know that you meant mah (milli-amp hour, a measure of battery capacity) you used the term mhz (megaHertz), which is a measure of the frequency of an oscillation,

To me, this indicates that you lack the basic understanding needed for your adventure into rebuildables.

Start here: https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/voltage-current-resistance-and-ohms-law to learn how voltage, current, and resistance interact.

Then go here: https://learn.adafruit.com/li-ion-and-lipoly-batteries to learn about the batteries we use.

Those links will help with the basics needed to understand what is going on. After you have that sorted, go to youtube and watch videos about coil building.

Also read through this forum to learn as much as you can about VV/VW and mechanical mods.

Once you've finished doing the above, you will be well suited to embark on your journey of rebuilding in a safe, responsible, and enjoyable way.

 

[rurwin]

OP, to be perfectly honest, I am a terribly pedantic person. Although most of us know that you meant mah (milli-amp hour, a measure of battery capacity) ...

To be perfectly honest, I am a terribly pedantic person. Although most of us know that you meant mAh, you wrote mah which means milli-are hour, about a square-foot hour, whatever that might measure.

The OP did correctly determine the current required by giving a 1.5 ohm coil a voltage of 4.8V. (Almost; the correct answer is 3.2, but it's probably a memory issue.) So although they had their units mixed up to start with, they do have a basic understanding. Unlike those others trying to start out with a mech-mod, which is dangerous, the Twist is protected. The only danger is that the poster may get confused and decide it's all too difficult. The issue here is not safety and deep understanding of battery capabilities is not required. What is required is an appreciation of how ohms law works in practise and without a resistance tester the Twist does not help one acquire such.

 

[Dominic Brillantes]

Wow this is why i love this forum. Thank you all so much for the concern and help. I agree i searched the worst case scenarios that could happen and i got scared bcos this thing can blow up. Especially if this is not a legit egi twist.


You guys are right i should just buy a mod for this kind of atomizers and especially an ohm reader.

Now i know i should study more about the currents. I realized this rebuilding thing can be dangerous

I guess im just toi excited to blow big clouds
ill stick to tanks for now until i buy a mod

Thank you again guys

 

[Dominic Brillantes]

Now can anyone suggest what battery should i get ig i want to use an advanced atomizers like this phoenix v3?

That is all that matters right? The higher thebattery voltz the safer i can vape?

Mhz = how much the battery will last?
Lower ohmz= higher voltage needed of battery but bigger snoke and drains battery fast?
Higher ohmz = smaller clouds but long lasting battery life?

Are my theories correct or im still not getting it?
Thannks

 

[novamatt]

I double checked, and they're usually 2.5-3 amp, but depending can range from 2.2 to 3. So he's off on the specifics, but right in the way it counts and it's always good to double check your battery amperage. A few notes:

1. Egos generally have short and overdraw protection -- but YMMV when it comes to random kit. If yours comes with 1.5ohm coils you're probably good.

2. Once you reach the amp limit, many will regulate the amp limit so turning up the voltage won't actually increase the voltage. So if you're at 1.5ohm, going up to 4.8v won't cause it to go bume. If it's lacking it, you'll end up having to trash the battery.

3. 1.5ohm - 2ohm is probably the sweet spot for that setup, depending on the cutoff and style of coil.

I stand corrected. Thanks! I was just remembering off the top of my head, and I probably should have looked it up.

 

[sparkky1]

What is your price budget ?