Samsung SDI battery pulse limit?

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codyb88

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Anyone use these? I'm looking for the pulse limit on these batteries.

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Can't answer your question BUT I do know that only IMR (Li-MN) or IMR/Hybrid "safe-chemistry" "high-drain" batteries are recommended for use in all mods. Pulse amps should never be used for safety reasons.

Check out Baditudes blog posts below. He's the battery/safety expert around here.

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?

- choose the safest and right battery/charger for your applications here. Includes a list of name brand, high-drain, safe-chemistry batteries with mAh & amp ratings in 18350, 18490/18500, and 18650 sizes.

Continuous Discharge Ratings vs Pulse (Burst) Discharge Ratings


Only buy batteries from a reputable supplier (not ebay or Amazon) as there are many counterfeit batteries being sold. Here are several reputable battery suppliers in the US.

* RTD Vapor
* Illumination Supply
* Lighthound
* Orbtronics
 
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Anyone use these? I'm looking for the pulse limit on these batteries.

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Samsung INR's are classified as safer chemistry IMR batteries, and are very high quality. The max continuous discharge rate is 20A, and max pulse rate is 100A <1 sec .. I agree with some others than I would not be as concerned with the max pulse rate, and would focus your purchase around the max continuous discharge rate. Samsung's tested track record is excellent, and the high amp INR's do their best work at 10amps plus. http://congrevape.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/131101_Introduction-of-INR18650-25R.pdf
 
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Samsung INR's are classified as safer chemistry IMR batteries, and are very high quality. The max continuous discharge rate is 20A, and max pulse rate is 100A <1 sec .
I learn something everyday. Thanks, Nikkita6!;)

I took a closer look at Baditudes blog Battery Basics for Mods and Samsung hybrid (LiNiCoMnP) batteries are in there.

INR18650-22P 2200mAh 10A
INR18650-20R 2000mah 22A
INR18650-25R 2500mAh 20A
 

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Samsung INR's are classified as safer chemistry IMR batteries, and are very high quality. The max continuous discharge rate is 20A, and max pulse rate is 100A <1 sec .. I agree with some others than I would be as concerned with the max pulse rate, and would focus your purchase around the max continuous discharge rate. Samsung's tested track record is excellent, and the high amp INR's do their best work at 10amps plus. http://congrevape.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/131101_Introduction-of-INR18650-25R.pdf

I politely as possible immensely disagree.

Besides the missing last five pages of the safety tests in the pdf.
If you look at page 6 - Capacity & Temperature vs discharge capacity charts ; Discharge Characteristics.
You'll notice that at 15a the battery reaches 78.4c / 173.12f.
At 25a the battery heats to 106.8c / 224.24f.

The industry standard maximum acceptable temperature during continuous discharge rate testing is 80c / 176f .
Any CDR test results using a temperature beyond 80c / 176f is marketing hype.
IMO the pulse rate testing results are fictitious at best.
 

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How am I vaping at .08 ohms in my mutation x with a vtc 5 then?

Unsafely / without forethought of the possible outcomes of exceeding the maximum continuous discharge amp rating as tested by the manufacturer of the battery.

No one said you couldn't do it, but just because you can doesn't make it a safe, smart or good idea.

It's all fun and games until someone gets their eye put out, or, if all your friends jump off a bridge...
 

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Perilously, for now.

Wrong. It will hold without venting as long as he doesnt hold the fire button for 5 min. It is completely and utterly safe. I know, unpopular opinion on this forum.

The 25r is good down to .06 or something like that. 20R is a better battery though.

OP, if you want to discuss low ohm builds, this is not the forum to you. Join CCI on FB.
 

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Pulse ratings don't really exist.
In my mind, I ignore them. They are meaningless. Some vendors make up an arbitrary number and call it a pulse rating to push sales. People who vape over the continuous discharge rate justify their reasoning by saying they are within the pulse rating.
 
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Wrong. It will hold without venting as long as he doesnt hold the fire button for 5 min. It is completely and utterly safe. I know, unpopular opinion on this forum.

The 25r is good down to .06 or something like that. 20R is a better battery though.

OP, if you want to discuss low ohm builds, this is not the forum to you. Join CCI on FB.

Nothing is completely and utterly safe.

Given the fact that the OP is posting photos of batteries from an eBay auction, how do we know his Sony's are even legit?

I stand by my statements, you do what you want, but be sure and post photos when things go south.
 

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Nothing is completely and utterly safe.

Given the fact that the OP is posting photos of batteries from an eBay auction, how do we know his Sony's are even legit?

I stand by my statements, you do what you want, but be sure and post photos when things go south.

You are going to be waiting a LOOOOOOONNNNNNNNGGGGGG time. They will not fail. Iv vaped down to .03 ohm.
 

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Obvious sarcasm aside, crappy. I prefer to hang closer to .1ohm. Longer vape with almost the same amount of clouds and nic hit. And less wick changing. That low needs changed few times a day, and 10+ batteries. I have enough trouble keeping 1 charged out of 4 as it is. Chain vaping really eats the batteries. But anything above .2 isnt satisfying. Oh well. Just pull up a chair and wait.
 
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