Saving wickless attys...maybe??

[Sci]

I've got a question or 3. Surprised? When you make halves, do you place something in there to eat up space for the empty areas or do you dremel/file/drill it out? How hard is it to get the 2 halves together without a bad seam? It's the resin that was stinkin' up the place, right? Instead of resin, could you use a polymer clay? You'd just press it into the mold & air dry or bake. The resin I'm asking about reason is I know you can add on to clay, can you do the same with resin? For example, make the base tube & then 'mod' it with additions. That way you could add a juice bottle, a booster board, different style of switches, & stuff like that. You'd have a base mold & then could save the extras molds & mix & match them.
You started this.
Seriously, I have been wanting to do something like this, that's why I'm picking your brain.

 

[nicotime]

I think this will have to be drilled out or make one or two pockets at the most for the internals...reason being that the resin needs to heat up through chemical reaction to cure. Thin sections dont too well because it wont heat up...according to what I have read about it. Will have to see. Otherwise yes...I would have to mold a copy of a bottle and battery out of silicone to put inside if the two outer halves to form the pockets.

Dont know anything about the clay...I'm still working on not knowing anything about the resin!! You do that one!!

You can add on to the resin also...just like when you embed stuff you pour one layer....let it set up until it supports the stuff..then pour another layer on top of that. You could always wet sand the seams if needed too, which is the best thing to do with any plastic.

 

[Sci]

I need a few days off in a row before I really mess with the clay. I've got this bad habit of getting inspired late at nite. Once I get started on something, I hate to stop. I've got some air dry that I made a tube out of. It's still rough(haven't sanded it), but seems pretty sturdy. I need to drop it on some cement & see what happens. I think that will be the true test & I've got a felling that the resin will win that one hands down.

What I really wish is that I could build one of those 3D printers. Then I could make a chocolate PV that could be eaten when it's done.

 

[nicotime]

Hmmmm...I wonder if we could make a 3D....lemme put it this way...did you ever see the movie Weird Science??

 

[Sci]

Hmmmm...I wonder if we could make a 3D....lemme put it this way...did you ever see the movie Weird Science??

LOL. Need a bigger printer & a lot of silicone.

 

[beast775]

just when i think ok,this can be done,nico comes along and thwarts my progress.i really like the attys with no bridge idea.it has better possibilities for similar vapes everytime.i gotta get away from this forum..ok now back to my piezo micro needle injection system.aaahhhh.i need a camera.i like your videos,nice and slow.

 

[nicotime]

just when i think ok,this can be done,nico comes along and thwarts my progress.i really like the attys with no bridge idea.it has better possibilities for similar vapes everytime.i gotta get away from this forum..ok now back to my piezo micro needle injection system.aaahhhh.i need a camera.i like your videos,nice and slow.

Did I mention I probably have ADD?? But seriously, the one I built here I am still using..I just want a better package than these damn boxes all the time. Sci is the one instigating building lewd objects!!

 

[Sci]

Did I mention I probably have ADD?? But seriously, the one I built here I am still using..I just want a better package than these damn boxes all the time. Sci is the one instigating building lewd objects!!

I get blamed for everything I do.

 

[nicotime]

I get blamed for everything I do.

What are friends for??

Hey Sci, take a look at this...what kind of clay would be best I wonder...I was looking at the Reuseable synthetic modeling clay at the bottom of the page.

Alumilite - Products - Dyes - Fillers

Oh also...how to make a battery compartment door...hmmm?

 

[DoOrDie]

nicotime, this cart/feed system is better than good! It's brilliant!!!

I haven't refilled a cart yet since making my basic little cart feed system from the materials already supplied with a 501 and a piece of wire:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ple-juice-feed-mod-no-more-filling-carts.html

But this? You rock man!

I wonder if there is a way now to take that killer one way putty plug and make another small one for above the tube entrance point so that it would prevent any overdraw of liquid into your mouth? No matter how hard you pulled? Have you had any problem with that? My system is working well, but it is too susceptible to both flooding and overdraw. I am dealing with it ok, and as long as I pump just the right amount of juice, everything's peachy.

Seriously, this thread is mislabeled, and should be renamed and stickied as the ultimate cart mod or something. Because you have done a lot more here than just saved an atty, as the thread title suggests. You have just designed the ultimate feed system!

The only real problem left to improve upon is the issue of having to press the bottle, leaving the flow rate still inconsistent, to a degree. And with today's micro pump technology, we can beat this too. Take a look at these links to give you some ideas:

http://www.csem.ch/docs/Show.aspx?id=12040

http://www.micropump.ca/pdf/micropump_mzr-2521.pdf

Why is it we can't get one of these things and through a combination of tubing size, voltage regulation, and trial and error come up with a solution for that too? They are small enough to be integrated into any number of juice feeding mods!

 

[omgitsthr33]

I think some of the main reasons we don't see pumps yet is a few different factors.

The cost of pumps, unknown longevity of pumps, unknown durability, and ease of replacement. That's just my .

DoOrDie, I agree it is a brilliant design.

 

[DoOrDie]

I think some of the main reasons we don't see pumps yet is a few different factors.

The cost of pumps, unknown longevity of pumps, unknown durability, and ease of replacement. That's just my .

DoOrDie, I agree it is a brilliant design.

Cost? About 30 bucks give or take some. But could be way less given a supplier, mass production, etc. Compared to smoking analogs that's nothing. Durability? Some of these have been tested to 3000 hours with no problems. They are not even sure how long they will last beyond that, but ranges far beyond 10,000 hours are expected. That's well over a year. Replacement could be built into the design of the new mod.

 

[nicotime]

Thanks Do...I use a small tube that delivers a small amount of juice so its hard to flood it unless you sit there holding pressure on the bottle. Also the tube enters the cart right above the glass tube, so any overfill will get sucked back down the tubing and not sit in the cart. So I give it a squeeze and as soon as I hear it start the gurgling sound I let off the bottle and vape until the vape gets weak. I think the key is to keep the tubing small. I tubing I use is only .020" ID and the glass tube in the cart is only like .040" ID.

 

[DoOrDie]

Thanks Do...I use a small tube that delivers a small amount of juice so its hard to flood it unless you sit there holding pressure on the bottle. Also the tube enters the cart right above the glass tube, so any overfill will get sucked back down the tubing and not sit in the cart. So I give it a squeeze and as soon as I hear it start the gurgling sound I let off the bottle and vape until the vape gets weak. I think the key is to keep the tubing small. I tubing I use is only .020" ID and the glass tube in the cart is only like .040" ID.

Any reason you chose a glass tube for the cart? That would worry me a bit in case the unit took a serious jolt, the glass broke in tiny slivers, and you didn't find out until you had inhaled them.

 

[nicotime]

Any reason you chose a glass tube for the cart? That would worry me a bit in case the unit took a serious jolt, the glass broke in tiny slivers, and you didn't find out until you had inhaled them.

I got the quartz tubing for another mod I was working on and it worked better than the reed diffuser I started with. I wanted something that if it touched the coil and burned it wouldn't melt or produce toxic fumes. The glass worked out great because I can run the tube right down on top the coil and the juice will hit it at any angle unlike dripping where it can go to the sides. I imagine you could chip the tube if if fell but it would more than likely just get shoved up into the cart because its mounted in silicone and the coil is flexible too...and quartz doesnt really splinter like regular glass does. I would still check the whole unit out (in any mod) if I did drop it.

 

[nicotime]

Well if you read this Sci I finally got some urethane casting resin and touch switch building stuff to play with. Problem is the urethane needs a vacuum or pressure chamber or the casting is full of bubbles...the polyester resin I bought first didnt do that. It still looks kinda cool with the bubbles but I'll have to see how the first one turns out. Trying to make a one or even two piece mold that incorporates the batt, bottle and all the internal parts is becoming more of a challenge than expected. I got some modeling clay too so I have it clayed up...now I have to figure out how to make the mold work the way I want. I may need to get the pour kind of silicone instead of the putty I have.

Stay tuned!!

 

[Sci]

Well if you read this Sci I finally got some urethane casting resin and touch switch building stuff to play with. Problem is the urethane needs a vacuum or pressure chamber or the casting is full of bubbles...the polyester resin I bought first didnt do that. It still looks kinda cool with the bubbles but I'll have to see how the first one turns out. Trying to make a one or even two piece mold that incorporates the batt, bottle and all the internal parts is becoming more of a challenge than expected. I got some modeling clay too so I have it clayed up...now I have to figure out how to make the mold work the way I want. I may need to get the pour kind of silicone instead of the putty I have.

Stay tuned!!

I got the Casting Craft Mold Builder(latex rubber) & Casting Craft Casting Resin(+ a bottle of Catalyst) from Michaels yesterday. The mold builder is the kind you can pour/brush on. Here's a site with some info on those & more - Latex Mold Rubber.
I have no sense of smell, so I'm reading up on these things before I start molding/pouring resin. I think you need some sort of mask or a well ventilated area before using the resin. I've seen the bubble problem, I'll face it when I get there.
That brush-on latex mold is a time consuming process. You have to use a bunch of coats, letting each layer dry fully & put some cheese cloth between the last 2 layers. But, the mold is supposed to be sturdy & last. I've also got some Sculpy III polymer clay. It's supposed to stay pliable until you bake it. I am going to try it for some of the molding.
Now to find some stuff to make molds from. I too want to build a case that is small but has a place for everything pre-formed.
Post your progress on this, I've got a few other things to finish before I can get started.

 

[nicotime]

Yeah I like the urethane..practically no smell at all and none after it cures. The cured polyester still smells like Bondo body putty. I should have got the bake-able clay too...but I got the cheap never hardening stuff. I made a cool Tiki man with it though! LOL

Gotta run but I'll keep you posted!

 

[Sci]

The 'Casting Craft liquid plastic Casting Resin' that I got says it contains polyester resin & styrene. Is that what you are saying smells like bondo? If it is, oh well... It won't bother me.

 

[nicotime]

The 'Casting Craft liquid plastic Casting Resin' that I got says it contains polyester resin & styrene. Is that what you are saying smells like bondo? If it is, oh well... It won't bother me.

Thats it...you may get more than a nic buzz!LOL