Scared of DIY!

[dud3r]

Recently ordered everything I thought I needed to mix some juices up. My girlfriend will buy at least 10 bottles of juice at a time. We still have some unopened that we've forgotten about. I figured mixing them up on our own would be the ticket..

.. ordered up the standard stuff (flavor, pg, vg, unflavored nicotine and a few extra bottles and syringes). The nicotine we ordered was 100mg/125ml. I used nearly every calculator I could find to make sure my mix was safe. We've gone through at least a bottle each and then I run into something that concerns me. I saw in a few places that its a common thing for high strength nicotine to not be properly labeled. There's an acid test I saw where people are testing their strength.

Now call me stupid or whatever you like but I shook that nicotine and stuck in my syringe. Was actually really happy with the juice we came up with. Is this really a common thing? Should I order the test to be safe? Did you?

Sweet forum you guys have going here. I plan to become a part of it and quit just lurking around.

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[Serein1]

I hope someone answers you. I would like to know too.

 

[irehc77]

Hmm interesting. I have not heard about this. I was thinking on also trying to start mixing my own once I used up some of the juices that I have ordered.

 

[FranC]

I DIY all our juice. Most of my nic comes from ECX and MFS. I've never felt a need to test the nic.

 

[cyberwolf]

I bought the test kit a year ago when one of the major nic manufacturers had an issue, and I knew that was where mine originated. That nic tested fine, as has all of the nic I've tested since.

I really enjoy mixing my own juice, although trying new flavorings is just as tempting as trying new pre-mixed juices.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Have tested ALL my nic juice since day one even though it's purchased from a highly regarded ECF verified Vendor.

 

[jfountain2]

I've been mixing my own for about 7 months now and never felt the need to test my nic. I order all my nic from MFS and have never had any issues with them.

 

[Off Topic]

I've been vaping DIY exclusively for a year.

run your calculations twice to make sure you end up with the same number. I run 100mg/ml nic concentrate. It makes the calculations easier.

You have to be very careful with 100mg/ml concentrate. It can be quite lethal at that strength: Gloves, ventilation......

 

[markfm]

The test is a fine thing to do, even if it's only to get practice with precise measurements.

Going forward, 60 mg/ml can be a better price point -- convert to how many mg/$. You may get more bang for the buck by buying 250 ml of 60 than 125 ml of 100.

 

[Spirra]

How long does the unflavord nic stay good?

 

[Renolizzie]

The test is a fine thing to do, even if it's only to get practice with precise measurements.

Going forward, 60 mg/ml can be a better price point -- convert to how many mg/$. You may get more bang for the buck by buying 250 ml of 60 than 125 ml of 100.

Honestly, I haven't seen where you save much money by buying higher strength and 60mg sure seems safer to handle.

Can I encourage you to go to the DIY forum. Lots of nice people there who would be happy to hand out pointers

 

[FranC]

I just finished using up some 2 year old nic from MFS that was stored in the fridge(not freezer). It was clear as a bell.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

How long does the unflavord nic stay good?

I have a 100 mg test sample in the freezer from Oct 2011 and it's still good. Just had it tested at a Lab and was 88 mg. If freezing nic juice get the PG based as it doesn't freeze....just turns to gel.
Vets have told me about 2 yrs in the freezer. 3 things that will degrade nic juice- heat, light and air- if storing in freezer make sure very little air in bottle.

 

[markfm]

Up to about 2 years , at least for PG nicotine base, if stored in a cool, dark, place, fairly full bottle. Some will put the bottles in a freezer (make sure to mark them properly, protect them from getting broken, make sure they are inaccessible to children, if you do this).

 

[Spirra]

intresting and thanks for the info and the questions. I love learning more about this stuff every day I log onto here.

 

[BakuPeg]

DIY E-Liquid

Please stop by anytime
As long as you buy your nicotine from reputable vendors there is no need to test it. However if you feel better testing it yourself feel free!
The post you are referring to is a few years old from a vendor who did not test nor mix properly.
Most Nic vendors now a days test their nic solutions.

 

[TattooedSkin]

Sadly I have never felt the need to test my purchased products. I buy from a certified ecf vendor and that put my mind at ease. Now that you bring it up, I might buy a test kit, just for more peace of mind.

 

[yzer]

If using VG in a juice the storage time is a bit shorter.

A sealed container of Glycerin USP can store in the dark at cool room temperatures for up to five years if unopened. I have 6 oz. bottles (177 ml) of CVS Glycerin USP in storage now that have a factory expiration date of 9/2017. This product is made by Humco in the USA, like virtually all Glycerin USP sold on US Pharmacy shelves. This VG is USP, made from veggies, Kosher, yada, yada.

These bottles have a tough seal under the cap. Once opened and exposed to moisture in the air the VG should be used within about a year.

When I buy 25, 50 or 100 mg nicotine base in VG for DIY the base is made from Glycerin USP and has a bottle expiration date of about a year after I bought it. That's because the base was exposed to air during preparation. The same one year rule should apply to any VG that was poured off a larger container of Glycerin USP for repackaging (say, a 55-gallon drum). Once that seal on the 55-gallon drum is cracked and exposed to air the VG should be used within a year.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Sadly I have never felt the need to test my purchased products. I buy from a certified ecf vendor and that put my mind at ease. Now that you bring it up, I might buy a test kit, just for more peace of mind.

The bad batch of nic juice in Nov. 2011 was from an ECF verified Vendor. Certainly NOT ECF's fault as they continually advise and caution people of the risks.

 

[yzer]

The bad batch of nic juice in Nov. 2011 was from an ECF verified Vendor. Certainly NOT ECF's fault as they continually advise and caution people of the risks.

Which nicotine test kit do you use? Does it claim a quantifiable degree of accuracy?