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partywootdgr

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So I was going to buy a sid mod but after reading battery safety I'm kind of second guessing as some people are saying the only safe way to vape is use protected batteries and the sid recommend aw imr . I just want to be safe and don't want a mod blowing up in my face . Obviously I'm still new to all this . I currently have a ego twist and halo tritons and vaping has changed my life . I want to take the next step by purchasing a mod but hearing stories about battery safety has me second guessing it . I know we all use these things at our own risk but any advice on making a decision would help .
 

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So I was going to buy a sid mod but after reading battery safety I'm kind of second guessing as some people are saying the only safe way to vape is use protected batteries and the sid recommend aw imr . I just want to be safe and don't want a mod blowing up in my face . Obviously I'm still new to all this . I currently have a ego twist and halo tritons and vaping has changed my life . I want to take the next step by purchasing a mod but hearing stories about battery safety has me second guessing it . I know we all use these things at our own risk but any advice on making a decision would help .

You use protected batteries in devices that don't have protection circuitry built into it. The SID, Vamo, SVD, Provari, etc. all have protection circuitry built into the device so unprotected batteries are perfectly fine. So if that SID is really burning a hole in your wallet, go for it. :D
 

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Vamo is a great inexpensive way to venture into the world of mods. Vv/vw check ohm/volts. All around great unit.

Grab a VV/VW they have a nice safety feature for this. Plus once you get into mechanical you cause your vv to check ohm and watts.

The SID IS a VV/VW device.
 

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Thanks for the replies . My main concern was battery safety you know ? Obviously if mods were blowing up left and right and werent safe people wouldnt be buying them , I'm just being overly paranoid I guess . Lol its just when I see people argue on forums or video comments it makes me think " is using these batteries safe ?" And "are mods a safe buy ?" Lol
 

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Partywootdgr, Nothing is life is absolutely safe, like driving a car? :laugh:

If you use a device like the Vamo, it has some built in protection, is VV, VW and for the most part should hold up pretty well. I have had mine for a year, and use it "every day". Use the Panasonic CGR18650CH batteries which use safer chemistry in the Vamo and you will be as safe as you can be. The Vamo will check the Ohms of your coil, and allow you to check your battery level also. It is a relatively inexpensive way to get into MODs. My advice to all new vapers is to read, read, read before you spend, spend, spend. It will help your wallet as well as your sanity.

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Regulated mods (such as the Vamo, SID, ProVari, Tesla, etc.) have multiple protection circuits built into them. It's very likely that the device will shut itself down before anything catastrophic happens. The potential danger lies in newbies who start "cloud chasing" on mechanical mods with ultra-low resistance (sub-ohm) coils when they don't have the faintest idea what they're doing, don't know how to properly build coils and/or bother to check resistance, don't understand battery safety or anything else about electronics. That's when things have the highest potential to get ugly.

Nothing in the world is 100% safe. We drink water, but you can also drown in it if you don't use common sense and safe practices. With that said, a regulated mod and the associated batteries, used/charged properly and within their designed specs, offer about as much safety as possible.
 

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SID and every VV/VW mod on the market today have a protection circuit that shuts the mod down should your atomizer or battery short. They use Pulse Width Modulation to boost the voltage to 6 volt pulses. IMR batteries are rated for high drain situations, and they are considered to have a safer chemistry than the other types of batteries. Most of us use IMR batteries. They rarely go into thermal runaway and a lot of the forum users here (experienced!) even use them in unprotected mechanical mods.

IMR- (aka LiMn) IMR stands for Ion-Manganese-Round. Generally has less Mah. Can handle very high drains. (we need high drain batts) Considered a 'safe' chemistry battery. They shouldn't explode, rather, they melt/degas & can create high pressure in our mechanical mods if the mods do not have proper ventilation. Generally don't come with integrated protection. These are our fav batteries.

ICR- (aka LiCoO2) ICR stands for Ion-Cobalt-Round. These are the 2nd most popular batteries for higher drain devices, like our mods. These batteries generally do come with a protection circuit, and they should, because they can & will readily explode in short situations. These are sold with china-made VV/VW mods without protection circuits, which can get noobs into trouble when they unknowingly use them in their mechanical mods without understanding that they are sold unprotected in VV/VW mod kits. ICR batteries are sold with protection circuits built into them. (which can make them longer) If you want to use unprotected ICR batteries in a mechanical mod, you can order a vapesafe fuse, which you place on top of your battery in the tube. It will trip if a short is detected. I like ICR batteries. The quality of an ICR battery depends on the company that made it obviously. Most IMR batteries will do well for a while, then they drop in vapor quality over a period of time. ICR batteries can be hit or miss.

The other types of batteries aren't too popular with vapers. LifePO4, for example. Has a lower fully charged voltage. MNKE batteries have a little following here, but they don't outperform IMR cells for our purposes. NMC batteries can potentially compete with IMR/ICR batteries, but they are more expensive, and they still don't outperform IMR batteries in high drain situations as far as I know. A popular NMC battery (and the only nmc battery i've seen for sale) is the panasonic 18650 NMC hybrid batteries. They have a good wrap, and a lot of people use them, but they have a protection circuit which makes them too long for some mechanical mods.

Check out the battery forum stickies for more safety information if you plan to use unregulated/unprotected mech mods in your future!
 

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SID and every VV/VW mod on the market today have a protection circuit that shuts the mod down should your atomizer or battery short. They use Pulse Width Modulation to boost the voltage to 6 volt pulses. IMR batteries are rated for high drain situations, and they are considered to have a safer chemistry than the other types of batteries. Most of us use IMR batteries. They rarely go into thermal runaway and a lot of the forum users here (experienced!) even use them in unprotected mechanical mods.

IMR- (aka LiMn) IMR stands for Ion-Manganese-Round. Generally has less Mah. Can handle very high drains. (we need high drain batts) Considered a 'safe' chemistry battery. They shouldn't explode, rather, they melt/degas & can create high pressure in our mechanical mods if the mods do not have proper ventilation. Generally don't come with integrated protection. These are our fav batteries.

ICR- (aka LiCoO2) ICR stands for Ion-Cobalt-Round. These are the 2nd most popular batteries for higher drain devices, like our mods. These batteries generally do come with a protection circuit, and they should, because they can & will readily explode in short situations. These are sold with china-made VV/VW mods without protection circuits, which can get noobs into trouble when they unknowingly use them in their mechanical mods without understanding that they are sold unprotected in VV/VW mod kits. ICR batteries are sold with protection circuits built into them. (which can make them longer) If you want to use unprotected ICR batteries in a mechanical mod, you can order a vapesafe fuse, which you place on top of your battery in the tube. It will trip if a short is detected. I like ICR batteries. The quality of an ICR battery depends on the company that made it obviously. Most IMR batteries will do well for a while, then they drop in vapor quality over a period of time. ICR batteries can be hit or miss.

The other types of batteries aren't too popular with vapers. LifePO4, for example. Has a lower fully charged voltage. MNKE batteries have a little following here, but they don't outperform IMR cells for our purposes. NMC batteries can potentially compete with IMR/ICR batteries, but they are more expensive, and they still don't outperform IMR batteries in high drain situations as far as I know. A popular NMC battery (and the only nmc battery i've seen for sale) is the panasonic 18650 NMC hybrid batteries. They have a good wrap, and a lot of people use them, but they have a protection circuit which makes them too long for some mechanical mods.

Check out the battery forum stickies for more safety information if you plan to use unregulated/unprotected mech mods in your future!

This was very informative for a new vaper! Thanks man!
 

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I have the Vamo V3 and use the IMR 18650 battery. The other day I replaced the flavor wick in a protank coil, put it back on my Vamo, pushed the button and the display read low resistance. Nothing else happened. No arcs or sparks. No explosions. Nothing heated up. Apparently I had shorted the coil in the process and the Vamo was just letting me know.

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    When people say to use protected batteries, they're forgetting to say "or safe chemistry batteries". The point being .. do not use unprotected cheap Li Ion batteries that can be made to explode.

    The AW IMR battery is a Li Mn cell instead of Li Ion, and while it is still possible to make one vent, it will not explode.
    My preference, regardless of what PV I might use them in is either AW or Efest IMR batteries. And, I use them just for the piece of mind as much as for any other reason.
     
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