Second thoughts.

[williebb123]

im glad to hear sub zero is gonna use baditude advice and just get used to vaping b4 trying extreme vaping , ive been on here for 3yrs now so when i started there were no such devices . So many nubes here on ecf seem to want to jump in head first which is normal for the younger age group.But people please be careful alot of the questions they ask are in the descriptions in the device its like they dont even read , if it has a 510 conn and a battery fits inside a mod its fire in the hole.....( face palm)So please becareful once again b4 you blow your face off if any of the old timers remember in the early days of vaping we had our share of these people now that its been a couple of years and all the newbies comming in im afraid this will happen again( i hope not)

 

[Train2]

Just a few simple thought based on skimming this thread!
1) VAMO is a great device to "learn" on - most people actually start with more limited batteries and work their way UP to a VAMO!

2) Your vapor and flavor is going to be effected by a combination of factors - the power (volts or watts from the battery and resistance of the coil you're using); the juice delivery (what KIND of coil, what kind of tank or clearomizer, etc), and the juice itself (VG, PG, etc).

You're going to end up probably trying several variations until you find what YOU like - it's different for different folks!

Your VAMO can power ALL KINDS of clearomizers and tanks - plan on trying a couple different ones. And try a 1.8 ohm coil, then try a 2.4 ohm coil - and try it at 7 watts, and click it higher to see if it gets better. It's a lot of "fiddling" and experimenting, and just when you find a setup you like - you'll read someone describing something new and better here on ECF. So you won't get bored.

 

[SIXteenINdaCLIP]

Air flow to the coil is another significant factor in vapor production. You can have a sub ohm dual coil but without sufficient air flow to the coil, you will not get the vapor production you're looking for. Start out with an Igo L or Nimbus clone from fasttech. Both are dripping atomizers which will make it easier for you to change juices and are easier to set up than genesis style RBAs IMO. You may need to drill out the air hole on these atomizers to get better air flow but they're only $5-7 each.

 

[Baditude]

Thank you for the input EVERYONE. Took me a while to read it all and Baditude's great blog entry's.
I will be avoiding RBA's until I understand more about vaping as I now know the dangers that it comes with.

I like the clouds on 15V but its super harsh the Iclear gets hot. Is there anyway to get cooler vapor, I was guessing since its more of a top coil I guess? That the juice is being heated and then strait into my mouth hot....should work fine though on a 100% VG Blend though since it would be thicker?

You're showing your noobness again. You mean watts, not volts. Terminology. Your Vamo only goes up to 6 volts.

15 watts is way too much. Most people vape in the 6 - 8 watt range. Using the proper resistance (ohm rating) and voltage/wattage range together will give you a nice combination of smooth vapor and flavor. You're 15 watts was way too high for your clearomizer. For new vapors, I suggest using the Safe Vaping Power Chart as a general guideline in matching ohms to voltage. I'll include a graphic at the end of this post. Wattage is the number in the boxes, ohms in left column, voltate across the top.

I suggest a resistance of 3.0 ohm, even 4.0 ohm to take full advantage of the voltage range of your Vamo.

Also I was wondering is there a dripping atty that I WONT HAVE TO REBUILD. I hate finishing a tank just to change the flavor.

Yes, there are drip atomizers available which are ideal for sampling flavors. You'll only use a few drops of juice at at time, vape a few puffs, then add more juice to continue. These atomizers can only use a few drops at a time. You'll need a drip tip for a mouthpiece.

 

[oldjoe]

Very sound and knowledgeable advice above from Baditude. Experimentation will get you the best taste/satisfaction you need to keep you away from cigs.

 

[CommaHolly]

OK, I will answer what I know (or at least what I think I know)

Voltage minus Resistance (Ohms) = heat. It's a little more complex than that, but in a nutshell I guess.

Always charge your new batteries for about eight hours. Even if the light says charge complete. This will maximize the life of the battery.

Some people clean new tanks, I don't. I do, however, rinse in hot water and let air dry whenever I change flavors or if it starts acting up (leaking, bad flavor, etc.).
If you get a tank with metal parts like an IClear30 or a Protank, I actually boil the metal parts and let air dry/cool before using. This prevents you from getting a metallic taste.

whoa,,,,,,,,,time out!

I'm now confused,,,,,,I thought you were supposed to make sure to take your battery OFF the charger when it was done charging?????

can anyone tell me which one is right???????

 

[Sub Zero]

whoa,,,,,,,,,time out!

I'm now confused,,,,,,I thought you were supposed to make sure to take your battery OFF the charger when it was done charging?????

can anyone tell me which one is right???????

Answer this mans question! Ha.

So it has been a while since I posted messed around with my charger ecig volts etc and now more questions!

So I went to local vape place and bought a drip atomizer which isn't too bad (still not producing the clouds I would like within a safe vaping volts.) But it does get the job done if me tasting flavors. I ordered some stuff from halo and mt baker yay.

Apparently the guy at the vape store had told me that dripping is fine even with 100% VG it won't clog. I'm fine with that the atomizer i bought looks like this one that bad posted:

So he threw in some drip tip with it blablabla.

Heres my problem. The atomizer works fine but my clearomizer (iClear 16) is the trouble. I found that the wick is burnt by the coil and also VERY warm vapor which I do not enjoy. Maybe because the coil is quite close to the driptip which you can't change. Upon my reading I see there are Delrin drip tips which help the drip tip be cooler (Mine burned the hell out of my lip.) Maybe because I "Chain Vape" (I think chain vaping = vaping back to back a few seconds apart)

Maybe the iClear 16 isn't for me? Is there such thing as a tank that I DON'T have to rebuild will do 100%VG and won't burn the hell out of my lip? (Maybe with a Delrin drip tip)

Edit: ALSO hot juice flew out of my iClear my friend was taking a pull and burned her lip. Did she pull too hard?
I clean my iClear 16 with water is that the right way?

 

[Baditude]

whoa,,,,,,,,,time out!

I'm now confused,,,,,,I thought you were supposed to make sure to take your battery OFF the charger when it was done charging?????

can anyone tell me which one is right???????

Batteries should be removed from the charger as soon as the charging process is complete. The charger's lights should change indicating when that happens. It's best to allow a battery to rest or sit for about an hour after either being pulled from the charger or the mod it was in.

 

[Baditude]

hot juice flew out of my iClear my friend was taking a pull and burned her lip. Did she pull too hard?
Heres my problem. The atomizer works fine but my clearomizer (iClear 16) is the trouble. I found that the wick is burnt by the coil and also VERY warm vapor which I do not enjoy. Maybe because the coil is quite close to the driptip which you can't change. Upon my reading I see there are Delrin drip tips which help the drip tip be cooler (Mine burned the hell out of my lip.) Maybe because I "Chain Vape" (I think chain vaping = vaping back to back a few seconds apart)

Maybe the iClear 16 isn't for me? Is there such thing as a tank that I DON'T have to rebuild will do 100%VG and won't burn the hell out of my lip? (Maybe with a Delrin drip tip)

With the Kanger Protank 2 you can remove the included metal drip tip and add whichever drip tip you choose. Myself, I like the Knucklehead drip tips (seen below). Made of plastic and bend for comfort; probably the most comfortable tips that I own. The bend will stop any juice splatter from reaching your mouth and being plastic do not tranfer heat to your lips.



Tru-stone and pyrex tips also do not transfer heat from the juice device, I like how they look and how they feel on my lips, but they are quite a bit more expensive. The red tru-stone tip above from Drip Tip Designz has a narrow air hole which is large enough to allow vapor to pass easily yet narrow enough to discourage juice splatter. The tapering shape of the pyrex tip above from Sagewood Glass helps contain juice splatter. I'm not a fan of metal drip tips as they can tranfer heat to your lips and I don't like the feel of metal on my lips.

Any juice device that depends upon a wicking material (cartomizers and clearomizers) may have issues with thicker Vg liquid or darker flavors. Dripping is the best solution for these types of juices - no wicks to clog. For vaping thick juices on an drip atomizer and the convenience of a tank, many use a bottom feeder box mod like the Reo or the VMod.

Vapage VMod-XL bottom feeder

 

[BusterBear]

agreed with most of the posts here, i too ordered the exact same vamo kit from fastech, 3 weeks after puffing away on my ego twist. Starting out go for the regular voltage/ohm that standard kits will put out, save complex and sub ohm are for later.

 

[Sub Zero]

So, I will hold off on the drip tip for a little while as there is a rumor of my favorite company producing glass ones.

So I think I'm ready to step it up from a atomizer into a RBA. WITHOUT sub ohm'ing as I would like to learn about making my own coil etc.

Any tips so I don't blow my face off. And suggest an RBA or are they all the same since you make your own coil and wick.

Question for you guys like always. So I have a VV as all who read this thread know. So a mech, what Watt/Volt does it go by since you cannot change it .

Also as I am afraid of inhaling fire how do I avoid sub ohm and why/how do people set there wicks on fire.

 

[rotku]

Using my Vamo V2 right now. Plumes of vapor. Maybe not "Youtube" worthy but as much or more than any analog. You made a good choice with the Vamo and can certainly wade into the RBA/ RDA waters with it. I believe there is a section of the forum dedicated to RBA's.