Seeking first "large tank" vaping setup

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GHadlock

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Hi folks- I'm new to the forum and new to vaping. I quit smoking and starting vaping around weeks ago and purchased a Joyetech eCab as my initial setup. It's a great device for starters - all in one kit and great for traveling - but there are times when it's not enough. I've also had a few leaking problems, primarily because I've drawn too many times in a short period and the tank has gotten hot and distorted from the heat, breaking the seal around the atomizer (excuse me if my vernacular is off).

Anyhow, I'm looking for something a bit bigger- larger tank, threaded connections, stronger throat hits, rechargeable - something less portable but more enjoyable. There's a LOT out there on mods, tanks, cartomizers, etc. etc. but I've not yet found something credible that it simply...here are the parts you need for that...

Any recommendations from the experts out there?
 

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A ViVi Nova is usually pretty highly recommended and will work with any 510 battery. Just make sure you get the right ohm head for it.

You can also get carto tanks from 3-7 ml from a variety of vendors and makers if you prefer cartos.

Your next step up from the eCab would be an eGo style battery. Joyetech makes those too and theirs are the most common, dependable, and highly recommended devices as far as batteries go.

If you're looking for a complete setup including a larger mod, there's too many different opinions as to what to get. VAMOs are cheap. Everyone who owns a ProVari is sure to chime in and tell you not to get anything else other than their $200 mod. And there are several mid-range options. Best thing to do is to read around the forum and figure out what's what, what features you'd like, and how much you want to spend, and make a decision on your own. I don't really wanna leave you with no answer to your question, but opinions and recommendations on mods are highly subjective.
 
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I liked my ego batts with viva novas & cartotanks. A twist or spinner would be ok if you're looking to try out VV. ID is right. They're so many choices. Do you want VV or are you wanting to stay with fixed voltage? What's your price range? The bolt is pretty popular if you don't want vv. I also hear good things about the Vamo & zmax.
 

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The Vivi Nova is a good next step but I found the flavor to be lacking. For $12 you can't go wrong, and it's a great backup for when you get into something else.

I'm working with an ibtank and cartos right now, which provides incredible flavor. I'm having some issues with flooding the cartos but I think I have that solved. (I've been glad to have the Nova right now!)

For the bottom end, I was using 510 batts at first and was going insane charging them all the time. I upped for a ProVari and absolutely love it. Totally solves the battery issues and is adjustable for any top end option I want to use. I won't say it's the only way to go, $200 is a bit of coin, but I was out of patience and just wanted to be done with it. I can always sell it for 90% of what I paid if I find something better anyway.
 

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This is great info, everybody- thank you. Gotta say, I'd like to take the $70 to $100 I'm NOT spending on cigarettes each week and get a solid vaping setup and just be done with it as skoot said. So it sounds like carto tanks are the way to go, and I looked at the variable voltage (specifically Provari) and I like the concept of consistent vaping through the battery discharge cycle (eCabs get weak before battery needs recharging) as well as voltage adjustments for stronger throat hits. I'm close to pulling the trigger on the Provari Variable Voltage 2.5 Starter Kit and the DCT Cartomizer tanks....a bit of coin but from the forum here and from the many reviews on Provari site it sounds like its a great solution that's going to provide satisfaction and last for a while. And it only takes about 3 weeks of not smoking cigarettes until it's paid for - when you look at it that way, it doesn't cost THAT much!
 

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I'm not an expert, but I did start out the same way as you, with an eCab. It was and is still great, but I had the same issues, I was beating it to death so I needed to take the next step.

First I bought the eGo C type A tank tips starter kit with upgraded variable voltage 650 battery. These work the same as the eCab for filling and maintenance so it was easy for me to start out, the tips and atomizers are interchangeable with the eCab too so I thought it would save money. I found that I was still filling the tip tanks too often and was going through a lot of atomizers because they retain flavor when switching ejuices, (they can be boiled out but it's a hassle). I was till over using this device and getting a lot of juice/burnt taste, but it was fine if you don't vape constantly.

I then went to the clearomizers like the iClear 16 and vivi nova's, and screwed them onto my eGo batteries. These really made a difference, I was getting more vapor when I needed it and other than swirling them around to keep the wicks soaked they were great, but now I was using up my batteries because these run best at the higher setting of the variable voltage. (Variable voltage, Blue setting is 3.2volts, yellow setting is 3.7volts and then declines as battery begins to run low).

I then started looking into batteries, I ended up buying a 1000 variable voltage eGos pass through and an eGo 1000 twist. The pass through was so I could vape will recharging and the twist was so I could turn up the voltage to whatever my tank system needed. these worked well for me, and in retrospect if I knew better, I would have started with eGo Twists and stayed there, they have the slim look that doesn't feel awkward in public, but you can screw any tank device on them and adjust the voltage to what you need.

Then I bought bottom atomizer/wick clearomizers or tanks, no more tipping and burnt/dry taste but a more subtle vapor that took a little getting used to. They were easier to clean and maintain but had more leaking, gurgling issues. These were the T2-3's. Now I was in the realm of being able to rebuild my own atomizers if I wanted to and after trial, error and good advice, they stopped leaking/gurgling on me and became my go to for vaping.

Chain vaping now became possible and I now longer felt I wasn't getting the delivery I needed. Most of the gurgling and leaking problems were solved by going to a higher VG ratio, (thicker fluid), 30PG to 70VG and turning up the voltage to keep the atomizer from flooding or gathering condensation. This is where the twist paid for itself. I also changed the variable voltage on all my batteries to high and overnight my other issues disappeared.

I then went to the latest bottom atomizer tanks out there, (forgive my verbage if it is not correct, some call these clearomizers but I think a tank is a tank), The newest MT3's eVods and the Protank, (There are also equally good glass and plastic tank systems out there that work great, I just haven't got to them yet so I can't really give you advice), any well reviewed tank will do you well as long as you can throw the voltage to it it needs which means an eGo twist or larger battery.

There are many choices of battery out there and most of them are as thick as a Baby's arm, which is not for me, except when at home vaping. At the very least you need a twist and then if you don't mind being seen vaping a flashlight, the larger battery systems. I know I will end up with one of these soon for evening and weekend vaping but the one I want has issues with the finish wearing off at this time, so I cannot endorse it or purchase it.

This is my advice so far, you will need a larger tank system and a better battery. Entry level would be a eGo Twist with either a top/dual atomizer clearomizer or a bottom atomizer clearomizer tank system, and there are even cartomizer tank systems, (tanks with a slotted cartomizer in the center, the original tank mod). If you remember these specifics when doing your research it helps you categorize what you are looking at. All work well if properly maintained and you are willing to deal with each models specific foibles.

Hope this helps a little, just passing on what I have learned so far. Key words are MORE BATTERY, (higher voltage longer life), and TANK SYSTEM, (Top atomizer/Dual atomizer clearomizers, Bottom coil atomizer tanks, and cartomizer tank systems).

One more thing, just when you think you have found the perfect thing, someone is going to create something new to blow your socks off so be prepared to evolve with this new and ever changing market.
 
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This is great info, everybody- thank you. Gotta say, I'd like to take the $70 to $100 I'm NOT spending on cigarettes each week and get a solid vaping setup and just be done with it as skoot said. So it sounds like carto tanks are the way to go, and I looked at the variable voltage (specifically Provari) and I like the concept of consistent vaping through the battery discharge cycle (eCabs get weak before battery needs recharging) as well as voltage adjustments for stronger throat hits. I'm close to pulling the trigger on the Provari Variable Voltage 2.5 Starter Kit and the DCT Cartomizer tanks....a bit of coin but from the forum here and from the many reviews on Provari site it sounds like its a great solution that's going to provide satisfaction and last for a while. And it only takes about 3 weeks of not smoking cigarettes until it's paid for - when you look at it that way, it doesn't cost THAT much!
If that's the plan then may I suggest the Provari with a glass carto tank? This set up is nearly indestructible. Many other devices give a great vape but the Provari has a 1 year warranty as well as cheap repairs for anything that could ever go wrong with it.
 

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a lot of people have put their two cents in, and i will do the same, but keep it short. IMO, the best bang for your buck will be an eGo Twist with either a ViviNova or Artemis tank. you can get in to that set up for around $30-$35, and you will not be disappointed.

This is sage advice. Even if you ended up with a $200 mod, $200 top end with hand built coils, etc. you'll still need a solid backup, and this will do more than nicely. Also discreet. Novas are indestructible, easy to rebuild and cheap. No exp with Twist but still a good solid part of any vaper's arsenal of backups of backups of backups.
 

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I'm a noob with little patience for continuing upgrades (and I'm cheap grin). I started with a Ego-c knock off. Once I know vaping was for me I wanted something that I woukd be happy with for a LOOOOng time. Plus I'm a truck driver and electronics tend to die quieckly do to the constant vibrations of the truck. For example one of my Ego battery buttons broke after a few weeks of use. (I don't blame the battery but the truck) I closed my eyes at the price and told myself a Provari could survive the beating of trucking and bought one. I also tried carto's and a pyrex tank (valleyviewvapes). I couldn't be happier. I also got a couple ego twists as a back-up. Always have a back-up, at all times. I don't leave the house with out two setups, and I take at least three setups on the road with me.
Happy vaping
 
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