Seeking more TH

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Dawn L.

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I've been vaping a while and have tried various juices but aside from what I was getting from LeCig (which I suspect was from China because they don't mix their own) none of them have much TH at all. LeCig's juice is pretty pricey compared to many other suppliers so I wanted to try to find a different supplier to save money. I've tried Vapor Renu (100% PG, 24 mg nic, aggressive hit) and the flavor is okay, service is great, but very little vapor (I know, 100% PG won't have as much vapor) and no TH at all. Also tried BreezEsmokes, 24 mg, didn't get to specify PG/VG on that one, or TH, but the flavor is just okay, some is kind of perfumey to me, but again, no TH whatsoever. Also tried FreedomSmokeUSA, 70PG/30VG, 24 mg nic, wow, their flavor is wonderful, customer service is wonderful, but little to no TH for me on those, either. I have 4 different flavors of the Vapor Renu, 4 different flavors of the BreezEsmokes, and 7 different flavors from FSUSA, none of them provide a good TH IMO. I'm looking for recommendations based on TH, although flavor is important, as well. I mostly like the sweet stuff, vanilla, butterscotch, etc. I know there are a lot of awesome suppliers but I'm not asking who is good, who is fast, who has the best CS, I'm just asking who makes good juices with strong TH. Thanks in advance for any help...
 

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The two suppliers that I have found make juice with a consistent and satisfying throat hit every time are Ivape and Johnson Creek. I haven't tried it but I read that JC's 0 nic VG juice still supplies a very nice TH. Both offer great quality juice but (with JC especially) you'll probably either love it or hate it. lol They're about equal in price, although I think Ivape is having a sale, 5 10ml bottles for $24.75, so that's pretty good. I obviously haven't tried all vendor juice but for me, these are the best out of the ones I have tried.

Oh, and yes, LR atomizers do help A LOT! I was using a juice with a very, very mild TH but when I got my riva and stuck on the LR atty, it became a whole new juice. :)
 
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Dawn, unless you were a non-filter cigarette smoker, you should be getting an adequate TH from most any vendor using 24 mgs of nicotine. Have you experimented with different levels of nicotine regardless of flavors and found a decent TH? It kind of sounds like your equipment may not be working at 100%. What are you using?

Background on me... I smoked Marlboro Lights or Reds for some 30 years. I find an adequate TH using 16 mgs of nic from pretty much any vendor (using an eGo or a FistPack, standard atty or LR). Like you, I'm a lover of TH. I haven't been able to get down below 16 mgs because of that -- and why your OTHER post regarding The Vapor Pro (that I subscribed to) caught my eye and why I'm replying here. LOL

You also mention a lack of vapor which makes me further wonder if we're looking at an equipment issue here and not a lack of TH from Vendor XYZ's liquids. Again, 24 mgs and a properly working device should be giving you more than a "slight or no TH at ALL" experience.
 

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Dawn, unless you were a non-filter cigarette smoker, you should be getting an adequate TH from most any vendor using 24 mgs of nicotine. Have you experimented with different levels of nicotine regardless of flavors and found a decent TH? It kind of sounds like your equipment may not be working at 100%. What are you using?

Background on me... I smoked Marlboro Lights or Reds for some 30 years. I find an adequate TH using 16 mgs of nic from pretty much any vendor (using an eGo or a FistPack, standard atty or LR). Like you, I'm a lover of TH. I haven't been able to get down below 16 mgs because of that -- and why your OTHER post regarding The Vapor Pro (that I subscribed to) caught my eye and why I'm replying here. LOL

You also mention a lack of vapor which makes me further wonder if we're looking at an equipment issue here and not a lack of TH from Vendor XYZ's liquids. Again, 24 mgs and a properly working device should be giving you more than a "slight or no TH at ALL" experience.

Still waiting for the Throat Hit Plus, stalking my mail-lady!! Maybe it is the device I'm using because I literally cannot get ANY TH out of the juices I mentioned above....I'll be mad at myself for ordering so much juice if the new Riva helps with the TH on all of them. I smoked Reds for about 10 years, then Marlboro Lights for about 5, never a filterless which is why I'm wondering what the problem is with me and TH!
 

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i am still new to vaping(3mos) but from what i know so far that is a difficult question to answer because as Jetmec touched on there are so many variables. how you vape, plus what you are using equipment wise, plus the juice,etc. i have gotton pretty good to huge clouds on pg which you said does not have too much vapor for you. but that also is a variable whats a good Th or amount of vapor for me may not be satisfactory for you. that was on a 3.7 Riva with a reg 510 atty, 510 carto, and 510 lr atty. now i have to change the way i vape depending on the atty/carto i.e. the rate i inhale and the duration, but can get consistant amounts of vapor with all 3. if i vape the same way i do on a reg 510 atty vs a lr 510 atty i don't get good vapor but vice versa i choke and cough on the vapor and TH. just keep experimenting is my suggestion.if you haven't already try a LR atty or higher voltage PV.
 

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I'm having her problem where TH is important to me and even with high MG nic, I'm not getting anything with some juice, even with a full battery and new atomizer, so IMO, certain juices do have a part they play. In my adventures of playing with making my own juice, I was making juice up to 36-40mg nic 100%PG and getting zero TH satisfaction with it with some flavors but with others, the hit was powerful. Chasing a good TH is frustrating but very important to me. I've gotten really light-headed and nauseous from over-vaping some 24mg juice and not getting any TH, so even though I was getting more nicotine than I probably needed for the whole day, I wasn't satisfied at all and seriously chain vaped, chasing some sort of feeling like I had actually smoked something. It's weird.

but, without being too repetitive, I highly praise the LR atomizer for helping me find what I have been seeking. I wish I tried one when I got my eGo.
 

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riva is supposed to be 3.2V output -- it's a regulated unit, even though the gozinta may have a peak of 3.7, the gozouta, the voltage getting to the atty, is 3.2. That's why it's consistent -- you aren't tapering off a peak of 3.7, but rather are seeing 3.2V up until it can't achieve it any longer.

I don't use them, I'm an 808 person, but it's what the techies who do care about them say.
 

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Hmm, this is all very interesting. I'm just constantly chasing the TH. Sad to see they're sold out of the Throat Hit Plus, but I ordered 5 bottles so I'm not too sad yet! LOL Just hope it works. Yes, Riva 501 should be here tomorrow, based on tracking info, and I do have one LR atty coming with the order, so I'll see what a difference the Riva makes, what a difference the LR atty makes, etc. I don't want to get too hooked on LR attys because I've heard they don't last very long?? That would get frustrating....Although its frustrating for me right now trying to chase a good TH, too! Also plan to order a 5V passthru and based on all the info from all of you, that might make a huge difference, as well.
 

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riva is supposed to be 3.2V output -- it's a regulated unit, even though the gozinta may have a peak of 3.7, the gozouta, the voltage getting to the atty, is 3.2. That's why it's consistent -- you aren't tapering off a peak of 3.7, but rather are seeing 3.2V up until it can't achieve it any longer.

I don't use them, I'm an 808 person, but it's what the techies who do care about them say.

icic very interesting......thanks for sharing that!
 

Dawn L.

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Okay I got the Throat Hit Plus from The Vapor Pro in the mail today. Here's my take on it: First of all, I used VaporRenu juice in butterscotch flavor, it is 100% PG, 24 mg nic, aggressive TH (but there is no TH and no vapor, either). I put 2 mL of that juice in a small dropper bottle and then added 4% (the website recommends adding 1-4% of Throat Hit Plus), which amounted to 0.08 mL. I placed about 15 drops of this concoction into a clean cartomizer. I then placed 15 drops of the butterscotch juice without the Throat Hit Plus into another clean cartomizer. I put each cartomizer onto a fully charged KR808-D1 battery and vaped from each of them. The result?? No difference AT ALL. I had to look at the cartos to see which one I had marked "TH" to tell which one I was vaping, absolutely no difference whatsoever.
I feel a little woozy from all the nic I've vaped in the past 30 minutes, but I wanted to be sure there was no difference, for the sake of research! LOL
So my search for good TH continues....and my frustration mounts! Live and learn, huh.
 
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