Selling local

[Dayride]

It seems I have no choice but to sell locally. By this I don't mean as opposed to online, I mean everyone who sees it wants one. I gave one to a friend who works in a coffee shop downtown, on the same block with three bars. In one night he had four people who would have bought if I'd had business cards for him to hand out. It seems like every week a friend or family member or family member of a friend is having me place another order, and I've just gotten used to buying two at a time (FREE SHIPPING FROM PURESMOKER! YAY!)

So, anybody got info on buying in bulk? I'm not looking to compete with anyone selling online, I just want to get them cheaper so I can sell them cheaper around town. I've looked for distributors online, but I have no money and no ability to take chances. I can probably get the money to buy a bulk order, but if I get faulty goods then I'm so screwed it's not even funny.

So, anybody wanna sell me a grip of units at a decent price? or hook me up with a lead on a seller that would? Any help at all would be great. Thanks.

 

[rustylug]

It would seem that all the sellers have stoped selling at the momment .... I have had to close my stand this week end beceuse my supplies were not sent out ... Only found out that they werent sent on Thursday by which time it was to late to find another suppliers ... £750 for my stand down the drain and on top of that the accomadation we had booked kept our deposit !!!!!

 

[Kit]

rusty you would be better of selling on the internet mate for £750 you could have had a web shop up and running !

 

[rustylug]

We had our stand up here for 7yrs now .....Its just that over the last 2 months we dedicated a whole side to e-cigs ...Now we got none to sell ... Its not just e-cigs we sell..... We also sell health products ....But like i say we cleared a side just for e-cigs.

rusty
you would be better of selling on the internet mate for £750 you could have had a web shop up and running !

 

[trog100]

its too easy to sell e cigs.. the world and his dog will soon be doing it.. the demand on "wholesalers" has perhaps exceeded their ability to supply..

what was buy one for yourself is now buy ten to flog on.. ebay makes this too easy.. now any joe soap can become a retailer.. demand is lilley to exceed supply on the wholesale end..

on the ebay flog-on end it will be the other way around.. supply will exceed demand..

the internet gives access to unlimited customers.. but it also opens up unlimited competitors..

trog

ps.. i have just had an amusing vision.. instead of being thrown out of weatherspoons for flogging dodgy tobbaco its likely to be for flogging dodgy e cigs.. he he he

 

[TropicalBob]

It would seem that all the sellers have stopped selling at the moment

That's very alarming, Rusty. Do you know the reason? Is it supply and demand, as Trog suggests (and I hope!). Or something worse?

 

[ned Zeppelin]

I do feel if the UK gets a full okay with all governing bodies and government approval. It won't be our UK suppliers that make the big money and take the credit for all their hard work. But they will still run their businesses as normal as people will still want discount electronic cigarettes.


I feel it will be the branded names that will be ahead in all areas because they have the finances to drive the market to how it works or a large corporates will send their buyers out to China and design their own cigarette as they have thousands to throw at it and it probably won't be a 901 with their name printed on it and you can TM a company name till the cows come home but it's the actual products that need to have the copyright like Janty.


Why would they use our suppliers when they can afford to do this there self .but they are all probably sitting there at the moment watching our guys go through a tough time and doing a lot of the ground work before the big guns jump in and take over it only takes a corporate firm with a few million to throw at this and it will wipe everybody else out and this is probably what will happen in the Long run . It's all about money. So watch out guys in case I win the lottery. But I do feel our people will do well but not as well as some dream of which is a shame as they will be come the pioneers of all of this and will not probably receive the reward they deserve.

 

[ismoke]

We have stock in the UK and ready to ship. I have spoken with Rusty and sadly, due to logistics, we were unable to supply him in time. This was a transport and delivery issue, not a stock issue.

If anyone needs stock, contact me and we can sort something out.

 

[marian00]

So, anybody wanna sell me a grip of units at a decent price? or hook me up with a lead on a seller that would? Any help at all would be great. Thanks.

Hi Dayride:

Many of these major online e-cig sellers/stores offer distributorships, where you can receive special prices. You might want to request a price sheet from some of them. Some of them require that you order a minimum of 100 starter kits in order to get some sort of price break. The more you order, the higher the discount.

But these major e-cig stores may not be able to keep up with the current supply and demand, as others have mentioned, since everyone wants to start up either a Web or home business. Kind of hard to get products around the Christmas season too, since electronics sell like crazy as Christmas gifts and many people make New Year's Resolutions to quit smoking.

Marian

 

[trog100]

That's very alarming, Rusty. Do you know the reason? Is it supply and demand, as Trog suggests (and I hope!). Or something worse?

i dont think the potential meltdown/armageddon flog your stocks off for any price has hit things yet bob.. it might well do thow..

we all carry on as if things are normal.. i am.. but if in a weeks time a machine tells my little piece of plastic to p-ss off when i poke it in a slot i would not be entirely surprized..

i also keep thinking i should nip down the local bank take the small amount of money i have in it out and stick it under my bed..

it would take a shotgun to remove from under my bed.. a press of a button to switch off my plastic.. he he he

making a "run" fer the bank aint my style.. more a causal stroll.. but its a stroll a big part of thinks i ought to take..

trog

 

[rustylug]

I think it might have been somthing to do with that Trogg .... I might be to small a fish at the momment in this new e-cig genaration.

 

[pillbox38]

Rusty, i thought you had been pulled for selling kits without the correct product details on these are hard to find.(the Super as yet does not have this)

I let you down on the supers as i had not anticipated the pull Wednesdays BBC article would have , i normally sell 100 supers per week, this week my stock of 300 was wiped out in a few days, i have 40 left i need those to service orders.More will be here thursday, if lucky on wednesday

Mini kits i have as you know, all colours, only the super i could not provide. I have ordered over 4600 kits this week and 90,000 cartridges, plus large amounts of accessories wicked fluid etc.

I had to buy 500 uk adaptors friday from a uk wholesaler i have 200 left and over 200 open orders, so these will be gone monday.

Im now cranking the operation up a gear, about to commit from my supplier the sole uk agency..

A commitment of 8000 kits per month is required, 100k per annum...I envisage we will be hitting this by december.

Regarding Branded goods, and main stream UK big business wanting in, why buy their own when they can just buy others out. 12 months time the electronic cigarette brand should be of value to them.. We will see

Rusty rest assured i will not be caught on the hop again like i was this week..

 

[trog100]

just make sure u get the timing right dude.. he he

trog

 

[rustylug]

We cant sell the mini kits from you ....or any one else on are stand remember because T/Standards have put a suspention on the 901's and i have heard no word back from them as of yet.... Did you send them a DES901 to have a look at in your new packaging .... They did say that because the suspension didnt apply to anyother model as of yet we could carry on selling the super minis ... And with the stickers you told me to put on then hopefully if they do come back then all will be well.

Rusty, i thought you had been pulled for selling kits without the correct product details on these are hard to find.

Mini kits i have as you know, all colours, only the super i could not provide.

 

[trog100]

rusty.. my memory is "rusty" on this one.. he he.. but most things carry a right of appeal.. an individuals protection from the powers that be kinda thing..

u wont bother to challenge these people.. i would.. a fundamental part of the protection procedure is once an appeal is launched u are allowed to continue to run your business as u did prior to the decision that theoretically stopped your business..

u have 28 days or so to launch the appeal.. during this period u are allowed to keep running your business.. once the appeal is launched u are allowed to keep going until the appeal is heard or stopped by the appellant..

the powers that be work on the principle that joe soap dosnt know this right.. the powers that be are correct in thinking this.. joe soap dosnt and he is frightened of them..

the powers that be are frightened sh-tless about anyone taking them to court.. they mosly lose and dont have the manpower to handle it..

learn your legal rights dude..

trog

 

[rustylug]

Trog .... Im i right in thinking your saying that even if i have recived a suspention order on selling the 901's ..I can ... Untill the final appeal is heard ...I have never heard of this before.... Or is what your saying is that i would have to start the appeal prosses to cary on selling them, but if i just take the letter sitting down then in mean-time i have to take them off my stand?

 

[trog100]

kind of.. the right to instant shut down is a biggy.. bigger laws than petty laws control things.. u have to know about the bigger laws..

few do.. often the lower down the pecking order powers that be dont..

u would need to check up and find out if this right of appeal applies to u.. but to be honest in your case providing u dont sell your e cig as an NRT device.. u can simply sell them.. if they only hit the one (named) product as they seem to have done just get on with selling others.. dont make daft claims thow..

i know about education laws.. i know about taxi trade laws.. i am not fully up to speed on your trade thow..

trog

 

[pillbox38]

Rusty next week i will have the SUPERs and the problem is solved, as you know the new packaging i wont have till probably a week on monday, i will then forward a kit to your guy at T_Standards.. If i let you down, i apologies it was not intentional and the agreement we talked about before the lid came off on wednesday i have no problem with.

I want you selling the DSEs again, but this time with T-Standards blessing. Add that sticker to the Supers and all should be well.