Series or Parallel box mod

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It depends if you enjoy using unregulated, mechanical mods. The benefits of regulated include the above, it's also a more forgiving setup (usually) if your run into calculation problems, there are more protections built into the mod. If you want an unregulated mod you really need to know Ohm's law, your batteries capacities, etc., and be able to calculate well using steam engine and are good at building RTAs and have some experience with it.

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Hello there, I’m kinda new in the vaping industry and I would like to ask which is better Series or Parallel? Because I have Noisy Cricket v2

What are the Pros and Cons.
Which is better for cloud chasing. Thank you

Its always best to start on regulated mods,a built in battery is also considered a safer option.
 

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IIRC, that Cricket doesn't allow you to set Wattage but Voltage. Last I saw there is a dial on the side of it to adjust the power. The Cricket isn't a mod that I would recommend for someone new to vaping but since you already have it you should probably go watch some videos on the thing. Grimm Green did a nice one:

 

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The Noisy Cricket II is a regulated mod. The potentiometer allows you to set the voltage to suit your vape. It has a reversible bottom plate that allows you to run it in series or parallel.

Having said that: A series mech mod like the original Noisy Cricket can be very hard to tame. With series mechs you likely will need to run a higher resistance coils made from large multi-strand wire like clapton or more exotic. Series mods ramp up quickly and push a lot of amps, and the load gets very hot. You will also need a very good set of married batteries.

I had the original Cricket and sold it as I could not build a large enough coil to tame it - it was just too hot for me. Not saying you shouldn't try a series mod, just understand what you are getting into.
 

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Hello there, I’m kinda new in the vaping industry and I would like to ask which is better Series or Parallel? Because I have Noisy Cricket v2

What are the Pros and Cons.
Which is better for cloud chasing. Thank you

With the NC V2

Series Mode - Battery Voltage is doubled, which gives more power to vape with, downside in this configuration is you are limited to the CDR amps limits of a single battery, so at 8.4v max fresh charge (2 batteries X 4.2v each) the lowest safest build with 20amp CDR batteries is about 0.55 to 0.56ohms, 30amp batteries you get around the 0.4ohm range.

Parallel Mode - Battery voltage is the same as a single battery, but Mah (runtime is double that of a single battery so Mah X2 as the load is shared between the batteries), CDR amp limit in theory should be the same as the Mah (X number of batteries), but for safety assume battery 1 full CDR, battery 2 +50% more CDR, so 20amp batteries again battery 1 = 20amps, battery 2 = 10amps (50% of 20amps) for a total of 30amps combined. In parallel mode you can build a far bit lower, absolute lowest safest build with any battery on a parallel mech is 0.14ohms

4.2v/0.14ohm=30amps or about 15amps per battery in parallel mode
8.4v/0.56ohms=15amps that both batteries must be able to output, not combined like parallel but like a single battery unit.

I believe the NC V2 uses a PWM (Pulse Width Modulated) power output potentiometer, which can skew calculations a bit if not careful, so always do your calculations with the maximum power output as your voltage figure (100% power from the potentiometer) depending on your battery config setting. Also never ask your batteries to do 100% all the time, this gives no safety room for an "UH OH" situation, plus as batteries are used (charged and discharged) they lose CDR and Mah over time each recharge, gentle use (50% or less of max ability used) this can be 12 to 18months they are at 50% capability due to age, 50% to 75% max ability that time frame is about 6 to 9months, full 100% max CDR all the time that time frame is dropped drastically to 30 to 60days, just something you need to take into account for and factor for.

be safe out there.

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@gpjoe , true like the Hexohm mods and several others with Mosfets and such, still these types of mods those control circuits are dumb control circuits basically if something goes wrong they pop like a fuse or circuit breaker when you burn them out, but that is it, so still treat them like a mech I tell users of these types of mods, they are not true regulated mods that have a CPU controlling the electron flow, it is all user manually adjusted.
 
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The Noisy Cricket II is a regulated mod. The potentiometer allows you to set the voltage to suit your vape. It has a reversible bottom plate that allows you to run it in series or parallel.

Having said that: A series mech mod like the original Noisy Cricket can be very hard to tame. With series mechs you likely will need to run a higher resistance coils made from large multi-strand wire like clapton or more exotic. Series mods ramp up quickly and push a lot of amps, and the load gets very hot. You will also need a very good set of married batteries.

I had the original Cricket and sold it as I could not build a large enough coil to tame it - it was just too hot for me. Not saying you shouldn't try a series mod, just understand what you are getting into.

You can go unregulated in series with the Cricket2, but there is a safety feature that keeps the mod from firing if the build is too low.
 

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With the NC V2

Series Mode - Battery Voltage is doubled, which gives more power to vape with, downside in this configuration is you are limited to the CDR amps limits of a single battery, so at 8.4v max fresh charge (2 batteries X 4.2v each) the lowest safest build with 20amp CDR batteries is about 0.55 to 0.56ohms, 30amp batteries you get around the 0.4ohm range.

Parallel Mode - Battery voltage is the same as a single battery, but Mah (runtime is double that of a single battery so Mah X2 as the load is shared between the batteries), CDR amp limit in theory should be the same as the Mah (X number of batteries), but for safety assume battery 1 full CDR, battery 2 +50% more CDR, so 20amp batteries again battery 1 = 20amps, battery 2 = 10amps (50% of 20amps) for a total of 30amps combined. In parallel mode you can build a far bit lower, absolute lowest safest build with any battery on a parallel mech is 0.14ohms

4.2v/0.14ohm=30amps or about 15amps per battery in parallel mode
8.4v/0.56ohms=15amps that both batteries must be able to output, not combined like parallel but like a single battery unit.

I believe the NC V2 uses a PWM (Pulse Width Modulated) power output potentiometer, which can skew calculations a bit if not careful, so always do your calculations with the maximum power output as your voltage figure (100% power from the potentiometer) depending on your battery config setting. Also never ask your batteries to do 100% all the time, this gives no safety room for an "UH OH" situation, plus as batteries are used (charged and discharged) they lose CDR and Mah over time each recharge, gentle use (50% or less of max ability used) this can be 12 to 18months they are at 50% capability due to age, 50% to 75% max ability that time frame is about 6 to 9months, full 100% max CDR all the time that time frame is dropped drastically to 30 to 60days, just something you need to take into account for and factor for.

be safe out there.

Thank you for the details. I’ll be careful next time I build
 
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Thank you all for replying to my question. I already know the ohm’s law but I just wanna clear things up on series and parallenl. So I’ll stick up to regulated series and find my sweet spot.

If you have the Noisy Cricket II you have the option to try both - safely. In either series or parallel mode you can dial down the voltage. If you get more comfortable you can also use it in series "direct" mode which is like a series mech - but only if you understand battery limitations and safety.

But in regulated mode just dial down the voltage when you start, and slowly increase it if you want more heat and or vapor. The mod also has some built in protections if you short the atty or build too low.
 

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Series doubles your Voltage, parallel doubles your mAh. Higher Voltage generally gives you bigger clouds. So if you're cloud chasing then you'd want series.

You are forgetting that parallel lets go build lower = more clouds.

Both have pros. I generally prefer parallel boxes.
 

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You are forgetting that parallel lets go build lower = more clouds.

Both have pros. I generally prefer parallel boxes.


Really? I didn't know that it would make that much of a difference. I was never a cloud chaser though. I doubt that I've been over 50 Watts more than three or four time this year, and that was over six months ago.
 
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