Seriously, a lot of questions

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So many questions…:confused:

I am a long time smoker. I tried vaping a while back. I started with one brand that I thought was fairly good (I forget which brand it was) and eventually bought a Blucig kit that I used for a couple of months. I found them both to be somewhat lacking, and eventually sold them to a friend who still uses them.

I know I have a lot of questions and have included a lot of supposition, bit I really hope you can help me muddle through all of the mess and confusion here. At the end I have two models I am seriously interested in purchasing. Once I get some usefull answers I'll be placing an order for one of them.

There are so many models and choices out there now than there were just a couple of years ago, that I am completely overwhelmed with information overload. Even after going through some of the new users’ guides here in the forums, I really don’t know what I am looking at. I was eventually pointed in so many directions too, that once I found something I liked, something else would pop up and say; “Hey, look at me”. I am at a complete loss. :oops:

I guess I am a typical newbie in a lot of respects. I am confused about what cartomizers are and do. Also, what is the difference between dipping and dripping? That is why I came to the models I am comparing below.

There is someone I work with who uses a Screwdriver by Totally Wicked. She seems to like it a lot. I like the design and it seems to provide a lot of vapor as well. The only drawback to her is in the motion of its use. That would be an area of acceptability to me, but she finds it somewhat odd. Still she uses it regularly. A major drawback is the use of cartridges.


Another model on the Totally Wicked site, the “Tornado”, looks almost perfect for what I want. There are no cartridges to replace and the tanks are refillable, making this seem like a great choice for controlling cost and ease of use. The kit sells for $76.49 USD, so is very acceptable as far as price. The Tornado seems to be a better solution than the Screwdriver too, simply because of the Screwdriver’s need of prefilled (either factory, or self filled) cartridges. I am seriously considering the Tornado as one of my primary choices. There are no cartridges to buy afterwards.

I was also pointed to another E-Cig manufacturer by someone in another forum, Super T Manufacturing. They have a model on their site, called “the "Precise 18650" with brass accents. This really interests me in the fact that it can be used with a liquid bottle attached or without and has the ability to use different batteries. I have no idea what the cost would be to get outfitted with what I need to get started though, as they don't show any kind of kit, although I am not too awefully concerned with the initial cost as much as I am with performance and ease of use and cost effectieness after the purchase.

What I want is something that will provide good above average vapor production, good throat hit and last more than the equivalent of a couple of cigarettes. The Super T's Precise 18650 model look like it would do that well. Super T seems to have everything I would need to really get up and running, including adapters and chargers. The bad part about Super T is that as I mentioned above, I don't know what I need to buy to get it up and running, so to speak.

There is also a lot of information on batteries and voltages. Although I am not too concerned with the initial cost, I do want it be fairly cheap to use once I do finally choose a model. I am highly interested in the multi voltage designs though.

I guess what I really want is something that combines the functionality of the Tornado with the look and feel of the Precise. :?: But in either case, I don't want a high usage cost afterward; purchasing liquid aside.


Does the precise use a somewhat similar concept of using “storage tanks” built in so there is no need for foam filled cartridges?

After watching Super T's videos, it appears their cartomizers do exactly that; they don’t use any kind of foam filler to store the liquid. If that is the case, the Precise is probably exactly what I am looking for, with, or without the feeder attachment. I do like the ability to use the feeder attachment so that I can attach a larger bottle of my favorite juice. In addition, the ability to use multiple voltages is be a major advantage as once I find the liquid/ voltage combination I like best, I won't need to change anything. I will be going to the Super T site to ask a lot of questions too, so hopefully I won’t get a canned response with a lot of advertising propaganda.

In the end, I guess that’s what I really need to know. Both the Tornado and the Precise offer great almost fantastic vapor production. If the Precise uses the same type of on board storage as the Tornado plus the ability to add bottle feeding without the need to purchase cartridges, then this will definitely be something I want. :vapor: And if that really is the case, I'll definitely buy from Super T, provided I don't spend a week's pay.

What are your thoughts? :2cool:
 

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I can only speak from my experience going from Blu to an eGo then to the tank system. The tank system is, hands down, the most convenient way I've come across. After filling various carts, cartomizers, clearomizers, and dripping the tanks are a breath of fresh air. They don't hit quite like a mod and the flavor is substantially better most of the time when you drip on an LR atty, but when you're out driving or at work, etc. the tanks are ready to go without fiddling. I got mine from Volcano because I already had the Inferno and I wanted continuity but I think that TW is essentially the same product rebranded.
Sorry I can't weigh in on the Precise, it sounds pretty cool. Good luck :)
 

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I personally would not recommend the tank system. I have had two atomizers go bad on me. My husband's has lasted over a month, but he doesn't use it as much as I did. There just seem to be too many people complaining about them on the forums. The thread for how to make them work properly is ridiculously long for a product that is supposed to be hassle free.

The precise sounds terrific. I've heard many people rave about it. They are pretty expensive though. Their auto-feeder can be used with other products. I've not used one, but have never heard anything negative about them. They look kind of funky to me though.

After a great deal of experimentation, I would recommend the regular eGo (not the tank) to a beginner, along with the boge 2.0 cartomizers. If money is not any problem and you feel adventurous, go ahead and splurge for the precise.
 

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Just to let you know the way most of this stuff works, is that all of the models you just mentioned all use the same threading, they are called 510 compatible. So that tank system will work on the screwdriver, and on the other model you were looking at. The super T is generally considered a Mod, and usually that's not where people start at. It can be an expensive first set up. Your maybe looking at almost two hundred with everything you would need, compared to the one hundred for the tank system.
The totally wicked tank is actually just a re-badger version of the Joye Ego Tank. Most everyone sells them. But the tank system would be a wonderful first PV, that's what I'm using right now, and I kinda wish it had been my first unit I had bought. But I ended up spending lots of dollars on other models.
But the tank system is not a variable volt model like the super t one is, but you do get ALOT for your money.
The super-t is hand made, pretty much for you. It is very much a precision machine, will last forever, but you are paying for that quality. Now as I said you can go to liberty flights (great inexpensive supplier that ALOT of us use) and buy the tank atomizer, and the tank cartridges and a 510-510 battery extender and use that on the super-T as well.
S as a car analogy, tank system is a Honda, very well made, works very well, huge assembly line.
The super-t is a hand made one off super car. It pretty much blows the doors off of the other one, but you are paying for it, oh and the screwdriver in this comparison would be a 1980's jag. Hope that helped you out some!
 

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Grimm is awesome and I agree with him most of the time. But he has seemed to fumble around with a couple products with seemingly no insight on how to make them work. With all his vaping and reviewing experience it's almost baffling. Never had to wait between "toots" on my Tank and only ever got a slight burnt taste on one juice that was high in VG and wasn't wicking well. I've also heard all the same complaints showered on the various alternatives he recommends. Seems to me that there is an inconsistency, perhaps on the manufacturing side, that makes the experience rather subjective.
 

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Totally Wicked is very overpriced rebrand. Much better and cheaper options out there.
Ego Tank system is complete fail.

If your wanting capacity, then here is a pic with some comparisons.
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Just to let you know the way most of this stuff works, is that all of the models you just mentioned all use the same threading, they are called 510 compatible. So that tank system will work on the screwdriver, and on the other model you were looking at. The super T is generally considered a Mod, and usually that's not where people start at. It can be an expensive first set up. Your maybe looking at almost two hundred with everything you would need, compared to the one hundred for the tank system.
The totally wicked tank is actually just a re-badger version of the Joye Ego Tank. Most everyone sells them. But the tank system would be a wonderful first PV, that's what I'm using right now, and I kinda wish it had been my first unit I had bought. But I ended up spending lots of dollars on other models.
But the tank system is not a variable volt model like the super t one is, but you do get ALOT for your money.
The super-t is hand made, pretty much for you. It is very much a precision machine, will last forever, but you are paying for that quality. Now as I said you can go to liberty flights (great inexpensive supplier that ALOT of us use) and buy the tank atomizer, and the tank cartridges and a 510-510 battery extender and use that on the super-T as well.
S as a car analogy, tank system is a Honda, very well made, works very well, huge assembly line.
The super-t is a hand made one off super car. It pretty much blows the doors off of the other one, but you are paying for it, oh and the screwdriver in this comparison would be a 1980's jag. Hope that helped you out some!

Just a slight correction here. The Super-T are not variable volt devices. Not in the true sense of VV. The ProVari and the Darwin are examples of VV devices.
 

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....Although I am not too concerned with the initial cost, I do want it be fairly cheap to use once I do finally choose a model. I am highly interested in the multi voltage designs though.....I guess what I really want is something that combines the functionality of the Tornado with the look and feel of the Precise. :?: But in either case, I don't want a high usage cost afterward; purchasing liquid aside. ....Does the precise use a somewhat similar concept of using “storage tanks” built in so there is no need for foam filled cartridges? .....I do like the ability to use the feeder attachment so that I can attach a larger bottle of my favorite juice. In addition, the ability to use multiple voltages is be a major advantage as once I find the liquid/ voltage combination I like best, I won't need to change anything......Both the Tornado and the Precise offer great almost fantastic vapor production.....[/FONT][/SIZE]

I personally would not recommend the tank system. I have had two atomizers go bad on me. My husband's has lasted over a month, but he doesn't use it as much as I did. There just seem to be too many people complaining about them on the forums. The thread for how to make them work properly is ridiculously long for a product that is supposed to be hassle free.

The precise sounds terrific. I've heard many people rave about it. They are pretty expensive though. Their auto-feeder can be used with other products. I've not used one, but have never heard anything negative about them. They look kind of funky to me though.

After a great deal of experimentation, I would recommend the regular eGo (not the tank) to a beginner, along with the boge 2.0 cartomizers. If money is not any problem and you feel adventurous, go ahead and splurge for the precise.


I agree, either get the standard eGo or the Precise/super T. You can also get the eGo and add the vapemate to it if you like, but you'll want to add a tube to the bottle as discussed in this video: YouTube - VapeMate By SuperT

..but then you'll just be using the eGo battery and why not just use the precise instead (it's a definite upgrade).

Super T with a Vapemate is a very nice set-up.

The eGo-T....well...I'll let GrimmGreen tell you.



I agree with this 100%. And did watch GrimGreens video and agree with that 100% too. I would add this - here's my assessment of the eGo-T (aka Tornado-T):

• not much vapor at all
• very very stiff draw
• no flavor at all (but a peppery taste in the back of my throat, that's it)
• not satisfying, must get something else SOON, because I'm not liking this at all and it's making me very irritable.
• YES it's possible that other people got good atomizers and I got bad ones, but none of my three T-atomizers work as they are intended, though they all work slightly differently and one works better than the other two -- I'm not interested in investing more money to buy more when (by my calculations) I have a 67% chance of getting another bad atomizer and a 100% chance that even if I get a "good" one I still won't be satisfied.


If I had the money (maybe tax refund time?) I'd invest in the precise and the vapemate to go with it OR the REO mod, which I hear only good things about.
 
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