Several questions from a newbie...please

[vaprmamma]

Hi all,
I have several questions.

1. what is the difference between an atomizer, cartomizer and clearomizer?
2. Which one has the fewest leaks and YET saves you the most money. Can anyone break down cost. Lets say I smoke 3packs a day. How much money would I spend per month on an atomizer vs cartomizer vs clearomizer.
3. Is it cheaper to buy the ecigs that look like cigs with cartridges? Why are these not too popular on here?
4. where is the cheapest place to buy the "soft caps" that don't leak.

I would greatly appreciate these answers. I couldn't find them in the forum.

Thank you!

 

[Semiretired]

Go and look at the Volt. If you want simple, but effective and the cost is not to high at the same time. You can get cheaper, but if you are just starting that may be better down the road. Their are many that have started with other PV's and have transitioned to these - they are happy now and do not look for anything else, but their are others that want even more and keep looking, but with your explanation this should fit...

Watch for sales also, but here is the link... Smokeless Image | Only The Best Electronic Cigarette | Electronic Cigarettes | Wholesale Electronic Cigarettes | E-Cigarette | Best Electronic Cigarette | Electronic Cigarette

 

[ctourtelot]

Ok I'll give this a shot lol

1. what is the difference between an atomizer, cartomizer and clearomizer? An atomizer is the the portion that heats the liquid but does not hold any liquid. They are often used for direct dripping or tank style setups. A cartomizer is a one piece unit that contains a filler material to hold the juice as well as an atomizer. Some cartomizers do not use fillers and you'll see them referred to as CE2's, CE3's and CE4's. Clearomizers are the CE versions I just mentioned only they have transparent tubes to allow you to see your juice level.

2. Which one has the fewest leaks and YET saves you the most money. Can anyone break down cost. Lets say I smoke 3packs a day. How much money would I spend per month on an atomizer vs cartomizer vs clearomizer. This one is a bit more tricky as people have different experiences. Atomizers can be finicky in that it is easy to flood them (which will cause leaking) but on the other end of the spectrum, it can be difficult to keep them wet enough to avoid burning. Filler type cartomizers generally don't have an issue with leaking unless you overfill them or get liquid down the center hole that opens to the threads at the bottom. Clearomizers are known for leaking issues as well as the tubes cracking on them. They are coming up with new versions however, that have helped with these issues. The Vision Ego Stardust, for example, is sealed on both ends and I've yet to have one leak.

As for cost, again..this is tricky as people don't always vape like they smoked. The average usage is about 3-5ml per day. All cartomizers, clearomizers, and atomizers are consumable and their usage varies. Some will last a couple of days while others may last months. It's kind of a crapshoot as far as that goes. Atomizers are designed to last a bit longer, but even then it's iffy. I usually get months of use from cartos and clearos as I clean them regularly and avoid dark liquids.

Atomizers run usually between $8-22 a piece depending on the style and vendor. Most cartomizers and clearomizers come in 5 packs for around $7-12 per pack and are designed to be disposable (the filler cartos especially) though most people refill them until they quit working properly. The Stardusts I mentioned are about $6/ea, but are designed for longevity.

Since I have either had really good luck with cartos and clearos or how I use it works well, I only have to buy a couple packs every several months. Some people buy packs in bulk or order every couple of weeks.

3. Is it cheaper to buy the ecigs that look like cigs with cartridges? This depends on where you buy them. Most of the heavily advertised setups are pretty overpriced or require a subscription for refills. You can get slim ecig styles for good prices with a bit of research. Why are these not too popular on here?They are not too popular largely because until now, they were relatively low quality. Some companies like Smokeless Image, Bloog and Vapor4Life have pretty well performing models available at good prices. The biggest drawback of the slim ecig is the battery life. Most will only last between 45min - 3hrs on a charge (depending on the size and Mah rating) so most people who start with that style end up upgrading for better battery life.

4. where is the cheapest place to buy the "soft caps" that don't leak.I'm not quite sure what you mean by soft caps so hopefully someone will chime in on that one.

Good luck and I hope you have a great vaping experience.

 

[V1 ROT8]

To add to what ctourtelot said, Volcano has a good mini e-cig option. I started vaping with their Volcano kit based on a recommendation from a friend. The battery performance is the only drawback, but with three batteries and the charging pack, I rarely found myself without a charged battery. I now use a larger tank setup when I am at home or in the car, as well as do some dripping with an atomizer at home, but still use my volcano kit with clearomizers daily to "blend in" with traditional smokers. Volcano's juices are really good as well, but unfortunately I feel they are a little pricey and therefore they have become a once in while "treat" so to speak.

 

[gvegastiger]

An atomizer is just the heating element that vaporizes the juice. You need a cartridge or a tank to use with it, or a drip tip if you want to drip juice directly onto the atomizer. A cartomizer is a cartridge and atomizer built into one. A clearomizer is like an atomizer with a tank built around it instead of feeding from the top. I hope that makes sense.

Nobody can tell you cost bc it all depends on how you vape. I've been vaping for 62 days now and have only bought 1 carto and 2 atomizers. One of my atomizers is dead now but the other one is going strong. How long they last is anybody's guess. I can tell you that I spent $100 up front on a kit, some juice, and an extra battery. I went with the Joye 510-T. I still have all of the tanks, 1 working atomizer and lots of juice left. I smoked 1/2 PAD and I'm now in the black on what I spent and what I would have spent on cigarettes and I've bought about 10 packs over the past 2 months bc I still smoke a few of them. But your mileage may vary since the cost of cigarettes is different. It costs me $5.12 a pack here so if it's much more then you will save more and hit the break even point sooner.

The reason the mini-ecigs aren't too popular with seasoned vapers is because they are expensive and don't offer as good of an experience as a mod or eGo/kGo do. The batteries need constant charging, and you are limited on the resistance of the cartos/atty's you can use. With an eGo or kGo or a VV mod you can experiment a lot more to find a good combination of resistance and warmth of the vaper.

I started off with a Joye 510-T kit (the $100 I spent above) but have switched to an Infinity Pro (a variable voltage mod) for that reason. I love changing the voltage for different juices and the fact that the first charge on the batteries has lasted me 5 days now. But if you had of told me that I should do that when I first started I would have said you were crazy. Looking back I feel like I needed a cigarette sized e-cig to have the same experience. I could have saved about $70 if I had of done that, but switching is a big step and you need to do whatever you feel will help you make that switch. For me it was using a smaller ecig.

I have no idea about the softcaps.

I will tell you that you should check out the classifieds on here before you buy anything to save some money, and DO NOT buy from a mall kiosk.

Hi all,
I have several questions.

1. what is the difference between an atomizer, cartomizer and clearomizer?
2. Which one has the fewest leaks and YET saves you the most money. Can anyone break down cost. Lets say I smoke 3packs a day. How much money would I spend per month on an atomizer vs cartomizer vs clearomizer.
3. Is it cheaper to buy the ecigs that look like cigs with cartridges? Why are these not too popular on here?
4. where is the cheapest place to buy the "soft caps" that don't leak.

I would greatly appreciate these answers. I couldn't find them in the forum.

Thank you!

 

[vaprmamma]

An atomizer is just the heating element that vaporizes the juice. You need a cartridge or a tank to use with it, or a drip tip if you want to drip juice directly onto the atomizer. A cartomizer is a cartridge and atomizer built into one. A clearomizer is like an atomizer with a tank built around it instead of feeding from the top. I hope that makes sense.

Nobody can tell you cost bc it all depends on how you vape. I've been vaping for 62 days now and have only bought 1 carto and 2 atomizers. One of my atomizers is dead now but the other one is going strong. How long they last is anybody's guess. I can tell you that I spent $100 up front on a kit, some juice, and an extra battery. I went with the Joye 510-T. I still have all of the tanks, 1 working atomizer and lots of juice left. I smoked 1/2 PAD and I'm now in the black on what I spent and what I would have spent on cigarettes and I've bought about 10 packs over the past 2 months bc I still smoke a few of them. But your mileage may vary since the cost of cigarettes is different. It costs me $5.12 a pack here so if it's much more then you will save more and hit the break even point sooner.

The reason the mini-ecigs aren't too popular with seasoned vapers is because they are expensive and don't offer as good of an experience as a mod or eGo/kGo do. The batteries need constant charging, and you are limited on the resistance of the cartos/atty's you can use. With an eGo or kGo or a VV mod you can experiment a lot more to find a good combination of resistance and warmth of the vaper.

I started off with a Joye 510-T kit (the $100 I spent above) but have switched to an Infinity Pro (a variable voltage mod) for that reason. I love changing the voltage for different juices and the fact that the first charge on the batteries has lasted me 5 days now. But if you had of told me that I should do that when I first started I would have said you were crazy. Looking back I feel like I needed a cigarette sized e-cig to have the same experience. I could have saved about $70 if I had of done that, but switching is a big step and you need to do whatever you feel will help you make that switch. For me it was using a smaller ecig.

I have no idea about the softcaps.

I will tell you that you should check out the classifieds on here before you buy anything to save some money, and DO NOT buy from a mall kiosk.

Thank you so much for the tips. why did you not buy the ego-c changeable. Isn't this supposed to be better?

 

[gvegastiger]

Verses buying the Joye 510's or the Infinity Pro?

 

[elfstone]

Welcome, vapermamma! I hope this is not too much right now. I remember when I first came here 2 months ago my head was spinning.

You asked some interesting questions, but now let me ask you this -- are trying to figure out your very first setup, or are you already vaping on something?

Folks here will be much more able to help you if they know kinda what you're looking for. Some commonly useful details are how much you smoke, what kind of cigarettes, what previous experience with vaping you have and what are you looking for in a PV (except for best bang for the buck -that goes without saying)...

There are LOTS of options out there, and it's easier when you have some form of goal in mind.

 

[Traver]

Before you get even more confused do some reading about vaping.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ping-illustrated-guide-e-cigs-part-1-6-a.html

 

[gvegastiger]

I don't remember the eGo C being out when I first started, but I primarily went with the 510 because 1) I wanted a mini e-cig that was close to the same size as an analog cigarette, 2) the 510 is sort of a standard connection and I knew the batteries would fit different atomizers and cartomizers and 3) I found a great deal on American eLiquid store for a 510-T that included 150 mL of juice.

I went with the Infinity Pro because of the safety (which was very important to me), the long battery life, the cheaper batteries, the relatively inexpensive price for a VV mod, the variable voltage and I found a good deal in the classifieds here for the mod, batteries, charger and a carto.

 

[gvegastiger]

Oh and one more reason I went with the 510 was because while I wanted it to feel like an analaog cig, I didn't want it to look too much like one. Its a lot easier to use in public when it doesn't look like an analog i.e. white body with a red LED.

 

[vaprmamma]

Oh and one more reason I went with the 510 was because while I wanted it to feel like an analaog cig, I didn't want it to look too much like one. Its a lot easier to use in public when it doesn't look like an analog i.e. white body with a red LED.

was yours the real deal or clone?

 

[gvegastiger]

vaprmamma,

It was the real deal. I did buy an extra battery 2 weeks later that was a clone. It's starting to die but that's ok bc I got the Infinity Pro so I don't use the 510's that much anymore. I just use them when I go out and don't want to carry the Infinity Pro.