Just curious, will vendors be able to ship to states with e cig bans? If I live in TN and e cigs are banned will a vendor in a state without bans be able to ship to my state?
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As I am not sure I am just giving my thoughts I don't see why you couldn't Just don't broadcast that you are doing it.. I don't think with all of the mail that comes in and out of the post office that the postal carriers are going to read where each and every package comes from. I think this law mainly pertains to people selling the ecig in Tennessee. I am sure there are a lot of people in your state that have them for their personal use. Hope this helps. Footnote: I know if there was a ban here in N.C. I would keep on buying my supplies. LOL
If the ban goes through in NY I will be a outlaw and find a way to get my stuff. I have bought a Buzz. I am gonna get a Infinity this week and also order a Provari. I will just need to get attys and juice. I am gonna try and stock pile juice after I get all my mods and order a few attys every week. They keep comin out out with new stuff tho 
I guess I will become an outlaw too LOL. I am stockpiling now just in case the FDA does get their way. I have got loads of juices flavorings diy supplies. Now I am working on the hardware. Going to stock up on attys batteries and carts. Always looking for something new though. Hmmmm maybe a mod. But I don't think the vendors will quit selling to you though. Like I said I think the law in your state manily applies to vendors selling e-cig supplies from your state but I am not sure so don't quote me on this.
That's my thinking , also. I have still been doing a little stockpiling myself. I have a Provari, Prodigy V2, and will get the next gen of infinity and am waiting on the Darwin now. I have about 150 blank coolcart cartos, and about 600 ml of different flavor e liquids and will be ordering more things. I know we will still be able to buy pg and vg and the flavorings but I worry about not being able to get nic juice.
It would be interesting if someone could actually answere this question with some legal expertise. Not knocking anyone in here, but discussing who will become outlaws is irrelevant if you have nowhere to get your supplies
As I understand it, if a supplier sends product to a banned state, they are in effect violating the ban. That is not to say most suppliers still wouldnt send us our necessary items, but thats my understanding. I hope my understanding is severely incorrect. I await aformentioned legal expertise....
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As I understand it, if a supplier sends product to a banned state, they are in effect violating the ban. That is not to say most suppliers still wouldnt send us our necessary items, but thats my understanding. I hope my understanding is severely incorrect. I await aformentioned legal expertise....
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Me too, and IANAL, but here's what I'm understanding from copious googling...
This is a murky area. Right now, this very issue is being debated and litigated in the context of wine shipments. Many states prohibit the importation of wines produced by home winemakers, but home winemakers want to do things like send a bottle of wine to their families as gifts. Many of the details of that debate isn't really applicable to vaping as such, but as I understand it in the general case, if an item is not federally prohibited but is prohibited within a state and someone ships the item into the state through the mail, then the shipper has not violated the law. The one who receives the shipment has, though, and is subject to the penalties the law provides.
That said, there can be other ways to penalize companies who ship into the state. If the company has a physical presence in the state, for example, the may be able to be directly prosecuted for breaking the ban.
There is another way. In my state, it is illegal to get pseudoephedrine-based medications without a prescription even if they're really over-the-counter drugs. Many people circumvent this by having friends and/or families in other states or countries buy the medications elsewhere and mail them into the state. It would work just as well for e-cigs.
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Disclaimer! The following is purely being blown out of my non-lawyer ..... Just a personal take.
In NY the ban is about selling, not buying or using. I don't think a NY ban on selling could really have any effect on mail order. NY does not have jurisdiction in other states, therefore can't really do much to a seller in, say, Nebraska. It won't be illegal for me to buy or use in NY so, as far as I can tell, nothing banned or illegal would be taking place.
.....but if e-cigs are regulated as tobacco it would open up a whole new can of worms in regard to mail order.
In NY the ban is about selling, not buying or using. I don't think a NY ban on selling could really have any effect on mail order. NY does not have jurisdiction in other states, therefore can't really do much to a seller in, say, Nebraska. It won't be illegal for me to buy or use in NY so, as far as I can tell, nothing banned or illegal would be taking place.
.....but if e-cigs are regulated as tobacco it would open up a whole new can of worms in regard to mail order.
man, im new to this stuff, and im ...... already that other people have this much influence on
what we do here in all our countries ..
i think germany and russia is looking better than here to live for interference.
:You would think any...... of the fda people or any.... one in the health industry would be behind
this stuff.
i know big bucks are on the line but down the long road all the cigarette users will be dead and
no one left for them to influence..
what we do here in all our countries ..
i think germany and russia is looking better than here to live for interference.
:You would think any...... of the fda people or any.... one in the health industry would be behind
this stuff.
i know big bucks are on the line but down the long road all the cigarette users will be dead and
no one left for them to influence..
Germany is not looking better
We have no official ban on e-cigs yet, but we have large difficulties importing hardware and juice from countries outside Europe. Without legislation customs offer us, to either send shipments back or destroy them.
We have no official ban on e-cigs yet, but we have large difficulties importing hardware and juice from countries outside Europe. Without legislation customs offer us, to either send shipments back or destroy them.
Here, in Estonia e-cigarettes are "grey area". All my packages from outside EU passed our borders. Anecdotally the only packages sent back by our customs were from EU suppliers. I quess one supplier was vane enough to advertise company logo on package and this caught the unnecessary attention, the other one named flavourings "tobacco e-aroma", which automatically led customs to think about "forbidden". Some vendors do not ship to Estonia, they claim having too much trouble with packages sent back by our "border police"...who knows. I think, the trick is not to use any words related to e cigarettes on package. Some vendors are clever enough to know the trick
As far as I know, nicotine containing liquid is illegal in Estonia, I do not know about hardware exactly, as I got all my packages from any part of the world with cartos etc without problems, but on the other hand these were not advertised as e-cig parts.
Original poster is from TN and says he's stocking up, but I know of no proposed ban here.
Do you know something I don't know?
Do you know something I don't know?
Switzerland: sale is forbidden, use is allowed, import in small quantities (around 150 ml per month) is allowed.
This site that is supposed to track and report on e-cig bans says for now, it is not yet illegal in Tenn. to use an e-cig and that this ban did not go through.
Is this site incorrect?
OFFICIAL WEBSITE State of Tennessee electronic cigarette ban - ecigs ecigarette
according to this that bill was amended to restrict only the sale to minors http://www.vapersforum.com/showthread.php?t=28629&page=5 I don't know which is correct but if this is, then adults can still receive e-cigs stuff in the mail in Tenn.
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You are correct John...doesn't mean it won't raise its fugly head again... We keep a watch!
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