Shipping US vs China who do you find the fastest?
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Similar here. Shipping from USA is usually right around the three week mark. Shipping from China right around two weeks. Seems kinda strange doesn't it?
I ordred my 510 from Ruyan and it arrived in one week to the day. I have ordered the 510 disposable from liteCigUSA (last Friday) and the last word I received was that it was picked up by the Jersey Shore Post Office. So we shall see how long it takes to arrive.
Most American business do so little business with Canada they have no idea how to ship here.
22 days is putting stamps on the package and hoping for the best. The other bad one is when the shipper send it with the cheapest UPS option, then you get hit with the $50 UPS brokerage..
If you are having something shipped from the US tell the shipper how to do it. There is a USPS box that is $10.XX to Canada, it is about 1 week at most and only 2 bucks more than they will pay with "stamps"
http://www.usps.com/prices/priority-mail-international-prices.htm
Other options if you want it really quick is UPS one option higher than the lowest service (you risk the shipper cheaping out and you get the brokerage ripp-off). About 2 days and costs around $25.00. Same range with Fed-Ex.
22 days is putting stamps on the package and hoping for the best. The other bad one is when the shipper send it with the cheapest UPS option, then you get hit with the $50 UPS brokerage..
If you are having something shipped from the US tell the shipper how to do it. There is a USPS box that is $10.XX to Canada, it is about 1 week at most and only 2 bucks more than they will pay with "stamps"
http://www.usps.com/prices/priority-mail-international-prices.htm
Other options if you want it really quick is UPS one option higher than the lowest service (you risk the shipper cheaping out and you get the brokerage ripp-off). About 2 days and costs around $25.00. Same range with Fed-Ex.
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Yea, for us Canadians, getting something shipped from the states with UPS = nasty brokerage fee, on top of the posting fee and customs taxes.
I did however once purchase something on ebay and the guy had something called UPS for Canada. Basically it involved me paying my federal/provincial taxes if the value was above a certain 2-digit amount before shipment and then no brokerage fees were involved. Not sure if it's a standart thing or they had some agreement with UPS though.
As a rule of thumb I still always request USPS.
I did however once purchase something on ebay and the guy had something called UPS for Canada. Basically it involved me paying my federal/provincial taxes if the value was above a certain 2-digit amount before shipment and then no brokerage fees were involved. Not sure if it's a standart thing or they had some agreement with UPS though.
As a rule of thumb I still always request USPS.
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Heaven Gifts to Toronto is slow, 2+ weeks with Regular AirMail but is probably the cheapest way to get e-cig supplies. No complaints.
I no longer need to order my material from china since HappyVapor now have bulk prices on atomizers (9$ each) and mega batteries that last twice as long for only 2$ more than regular ones.
Add the 15% coupon discount and you now have really competitive price, fast shipping and 0 risk from customs.
Add the 15% coupon discount and you now have really competitive price, fast shipping and 0 risk from customs.
Customs do not refuse electronic parts. By now I have 11 orders from China with no problems at all. Paying almost 2X price locally does not make me very happy. The only advantage is fast shipping.
From China:
($33-$40) USD 510 kit + ($25-$35) USD Shipping = ($55-$75) USD = ($59.78-$81.00) Canadian with a 2 week wait
- Hardware will pass customs no problem, juice is hit and miss and if caught will have your whole order sent back.
From Canada
$60 510 kit + $8.00 shipping = $68.00 with a 2 day wait
- No problem with customs
It all comes down to shopping around, and paying for what you value the most.
Just wanted to add some more realistic numbers, and from experience.
I order from bestecig.com and if we do comparison on numbers:
510 kit $29.95 + 16.90 shipping = 46.85 USD ( 49.25 CAD on .95 conversion)
The wait time is still longer from China no doubt, mine has been at around 7-9 days total from order.
So with those numbers it is $20 less than the canadian prices you ordered, which is also only on one kit and there are not many of us that only purchase one kit; so the price difference would rise exponentially as the cost per shipping each kit would diminish with increased quantities.
But again it is all dependent on what you want and if you are willing to risk a delay in customs or having the order sent back.
I order from bestecig.com and if we do comparison on numbers:
510 kit $29.95 + 16.90 shipping = 46.85 USD ( 49.25 CAD on .95 conversion)
The wait time is still longer from China no doubt, mine has been at around 7-9 days total from order.
So with those numbers it is $20 less than the canadian prices you ordered, which is also only on one kit and there are not many of us that only purchase one kit; so the price difference would rise exponentially as the cost per shipping each kit would diminish with increased quantities.
But again it is all dependent on what you want and if you are willing to risk a delay in customs or having the order sent back.
The $29.95 kit only comes with one atomizer, so add another $7.00 usd to the price.
Plus thats is a "BE510" 510 clone not the Joye 510.
Plus thats is a "BE510" 510 clone not the Joye 510.
That is correct,
So the price is still cheaper and they offer a 180 day warranty and they even offer free replacement, which they have happily honored with me several times:
Any defective parts will be replaced absolutely free at no cost to you.
So the price is still cheaper and they offer a 180 day warranty and they even offer free replacement, which they have happily honored with me several times:
Any defective parts will be replaced absolutely free at no cost to you.
Its cheaper by maybe 10 bucks, with the atomizer. Plus clones tend to be less expensive so I would estimate another 5 could come off the Candian price, making it about a 5 dollar difference. My point is the Canadian vendors on here are in the ballpark of Chineese prices, not 2 times the price as an earlier poster said.
Canadian vendors also offer replacements of defective goods, without a 2 week there and 2 week back turn around, with the expense of shipping 1/2 way around the world. Maybe that's worth it for the extra $5?
Canadian vendors also offer replacements of defective goods, without a 2 week there and 2 week back turn around, with the expense of shipping 1/2 way around the world. Maybe that's worth it for the extra $5?
I am just putting out numbers as the first examples said Chinese suppliers were half price and you put out other prices.
To be honest it depends on what the customer is looking for. You are right that for one atomizer it wouldn't be worth it, but if you are buying enough to last a while then it for sure is worth it to buy direct, or as close to direct, as you can get.
With any business it is the same, taking out the middle man will be most cost efficient way to do business.
If we also take a look at what else could be put into that order such as juice extra atomizers and so on then, as stated previously, the savings adds up.
I am not here to argue with what is better or worse as it is subjective and your argument is coming from your businesses point of view. I am just saying that it is a decent amount of money that can be saved by ordering from China.
From the Canadian suppliers standpoint to attract customers there must be a value. Your proposed value is quicker shipping time, no customs worries, as well as a close price point. The china suppliers offer lower price point, custom worries, higher shipping and the possibility of not getting the order.
Also your two week there and back argument does not apply here as, speaking from experience, best e cig has included the items in my next order.
To be honest it depends on what the customer is looking for. You are right that for one atomizer it wouldn't be worth it, but if you are buying enough to last a while then it for sure is worth it to buy direct, or as close to direct, as you can get.
With any business it is the same, taking out the middle man will be most cost efficient way to do business.
If we also take a look at what else could be put into that order such as juice extra atomizers and so on then, as stated previously, the savings adds up.
I am not here to argue with what is better or worse as it is subjective and your argument is coming from your businesses point of view. I am just saying that it is a decent amount of money that can be saved by ordering from China.
From the Canadian suppliers standpoint to attract customers there must be a value. Your proposed value is quicker shipping time, no customs worries, as well as a close price point. The china suppliers offer lower price point, custom worries, higher shipping and the possibility of not getting the order.
Also your two week there and back argument does not apply here as, speaking from experience, best e cig has included the items in my next order.
Perhaps, you are looking at different supplier. First, HG/HC prices and shipping charges are lower. Second, I do not buy kits, because they may become refused by customs. Test cartridges contain nicotine. I order parts only with much less weight and smaller dimensions. The shipping is usually 5USD for regular Air Mail. Third, why to buy 510 Mega battery for 14USD (from China, about 24CAD in Canada) when 801 battery has same capacity and costs 9USD? All I need is an adapter for $2USD. This way I can vipe 801 today, 510 tomorrow and 901 after tomorrow. Same batteries, same chargers, just different atomizers. Easy, cheap and flexible solution. Yes, I prefer to wait, but I really get almost everything at about 1/2 price compared to local offers. Same parts and same liquids from the same manufacturers.
2 defective 801 batteries sent to China - $3CAD (or even less, can't remember exactly). New ones arrived with my next order in 2 weeks. Some Chinese suppliers have great customer service. They don't wait to receive defective parts before sending out the replacement. So, no problem at all. Don't get me wrong, I have no intention and no interest to hurt your business. I buy some stuff locally too. Not much, but it happens. We are just commenting the prices. I found my way and it is indeed close to 50% cheaper.
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Val, you've given some valuable advice to get a great deal on mixing at matching parts. Like yourself I am a frugal shopper. But I don't think comparing mix and match parts, excluding the cost of a charger to a complete kit is a fair basis to say Canadian suppliers are double the price.
For your statement that things are 1/2 price in China to be true, I would be ordering at retail price, doubling the cost to my customer, and pocketing 1/2 the gross. I assure you that is not the case.
So at the end of everything again it comes down to what the customer is looking for. As previously stated:
China= Cheaper prices
Canada= lower shipping times, no customs issues.
The original reason this thread was to see other peoples experience with shipping, so now that we have destroyed this persons thread perhaps we could just let it die as opposed to having this back and forth.
China= Cheaper prices
Canada= lower shipping times, no customs issues.
The original reason this thread was to see other peoples experience with shipping, so now that we have destroyed this persons thread perhaps we could just let it die as opposed to having this back and forth.
It is not my business to calculate what % profit local suppliers make. It doesn't matter for me. I only compare what I get and what I pay from my point of view as a customer. I normally order more than 2 batteries + 2 atomizers + 1 charger (USB - $3.50USD) + 5-pack cartridges so comparison 1 local kit vs. 1 Chinese kit (or parts in it) is not quite right. If I order only 3X kits on parts, the total price will be easily 50% less local prices and I can prove it. Everyone can do the simple math. In the same time, if I already have 3X kits available from my last order, than I am not in a hurry and I can afford 2 weeks waiting for the next shipment. Good planning saves money.
Sorry for the topic change. There is no single answer to the original question. Depends on the supplier, availability, shipping method used, customs, local delivery services etc.
Peace!
I think the lesson there is as simple as your US supplier is doing something wrong, and its time to help him, if they can't beat a package from the other side of the world.
Back on topic, but a bit off
You should see Hong Kong post to the US. 3 days from ship to delivery!!!- Status
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