Should any mass produced item be referred to as a "mod"?

[mikejm]

Just because sa device has an external battery does that make it a mod? I mean wouldn't it be considered an APV? Or some other word? to me a mod is something of limited distribution originating from a community or an individual. In fact, in the wake of the jbox scandal, the days of selling mods online may be drawing to an end. Maybe a mod is just something you do yourself for yourself. Perhaps the Jbox is not really a mod in that sense- it is a customized APV from a vendor that went belly up during initial production.

If it's sold by a vendor then perhaps it isn't a mod.

 

[gthompson]

We don't call them mods anymore, we call the PVs (Personal Vaporizers).

 

[mikejm]

A mod would be a modification of an existing device. If I somehow extended or modified my PV or APV then I modded it,right?

If I built an entirely new PV from scratch, it would be a limited edition item of one. A DIY.

 

[fourthrok]

I think you are technically right mikejm. A "mod" is a modified PV....it's been changed or created from one design into another. Technically...most of the APVs sold by vendors can be considered "mods" as they are "modified" from the original e-cigarette design from the original design created in China way back when. Originally the mods were devices made at home by some creative spirit out of things like flashlight tubes, or Altoid boxes or whatever, trying to get better performance. And in it's purist form, that is what a PV "mod" IS. Guess that is why mostly the term APV has been substituted for the word "mod"...and refers to any PV that has "advanced" features, such as a replaceable battery, or variable voltage/wattage or whatever.

I still say "mod"...it's just easier. But in my mind I know the subtle difference.

 

[frosting]

Whether you call it a mod, personal vaporizer, advanced personal vaporizer, I think it's just semantics.

In my opinion, a mod generally refers to advanced gear, which holds batteries and is not the typical eGo or slim batt set up.

It really comes down to opinion i think, someone who modifies their gear may be more .... about it. I don't think it's such a big deal.

*also, no clue the heck went down with the jbox "scandal"* I tend to find box mods risky business to begin with. <-- talk about esp.... so sorry for anyone effected by jbox. Just read about it.

 

[mikejm]

 

[mikejm]

 

[tsbrewers]

Why?? what am I missing?

 

[mikejm]

You could build your flash light mod, produce your own cigar based e liguid, and use an RBA and the FDA would never know.

 

[tc1]

Yes, technically a "mod" is a device that has been modified or built from existing devices.

Now the term is more general and is used often to describe any apv which requires a separate power source (batteries).

 

[mikejm]

My Provari is not a mod. It is a PV. There are thousands of others that look exactly like mine.

 

[Jerms]

I think you are technically right mikejm. A "mod" is a modified PV....it's been changed or created from one design into another. Technically...most of the APVs sold by vendors can be considered "mods" as they are "modified" from the original e-cigarette design from the original design created in China way back when. Originally the mods were devices made at home by some creative spirit out of things like flashlight tubes, or Altoid boxes or whatever, trying to get better performance. And in it's purist form, that is what a PV "mod" IS. Guess that is why mostly the term APV has been substituted for the word "mod"...and refers to any PV that has "advanced" features, such as a replaceable battery, or variable voltage/wattage or whatever.

I still say "mod"...it's just easier. But in my mind I know the subtle difference.

I still say mod too, tho rarely talk about them. That may change since my first APV is coming. Mod is a pretty mis-leading term for a big-battery APV but have been refered as that for a while because of reasons touched on by Fourthrok. We have come a long way since Altoid boxes lol, and those were truly "mod"ifications of one thing turned into another.

I'll try to switch to the term APV and use mod to refer to things such as tweeking an atty or any other type of modification. I'm not a big fan of the term APV but for now it's what's being used and I can't think of something better. Big Battery Housing or Casing Electronic Nicotine Delivery System Power Source is a bit of a mouthful.

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[Jerms]

Yes, technically a "mod" is a device that has been modified or built from existing devices.

Now the term is more general and is used often to describe any apv which requires a separate power source (batteries).

Hmmm, that's a good point, Twists are often referred to as APV too. I usually stick to the term battery for devices that don't have removable batteries. A new name that would catch on for these mass produced battery housing units would be nice as a seperate term that is updated from mod but seperate from APV.

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[Jerms]

My Provari is not a mod. It is a PV. There are thousands of others that look exactly like mine.

Lol, yes PV is good for a catch all, but still too general for certain discussions.

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[Underwhelmed]

I'll keep calling AV's mods since it seems to irritate people.

I actually usually just use "device" instead of APV,PV, or mod.

 

[Trick]

I have to admit, people calling them "mods" confused me a lot at first. I thought it was being used in the same sense that "mod" is used elsewhere: to mean a device that had been customized in some non-stock way. When I was just getting into vaping and people were telling me to try this or that mod, I'd immediately think "no thanks, I'd rather just use something standard to start out."

 

[Jerms]

When I was just getting into vaping and people were telling me to try this or that mod, I'd immediately think "no thanks, I'd rather just use something standard to start out."

Lol, yep I can see that. It's kind of the problem I have with the term APV. With "advanced" in there it can sound like something only for an expert user, but for a lot of people who don't mind the size, I would suggest a Twist for a first PV. Being able to control the power output is something that a beginner would love if they keep running into too powerful or too weak vapes.

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[Absintheur]

This is a mod to me...an object that worked as something not designed to produce vapor that was changed into a device to create vapor. Flashlights that worked as flashlights but changed to make vapor, candy boxes made into vapor devices, a tobacco pipe made for smoking that is changed to create vapor. And of course more extreme mods like my art deco era smoking stand that now is my vaping stand...

 

[mikejm]

I had a weird dream last night about a hamster cage mod and I woke up laughing. It was the stupidest thing I had ever seen. I never even owned a hamster.

 

[Jerms]

And of course more extreme mods like my art deco era smoking stand that now is my vaping stand...

Now THAT is what I no doubt about it call a mod! Very, very cool.

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