Should I buy a box mod now, or wait for the next "wave"?

[djironic]

Anyone know of any exciting developments coming down the pike in the next six months?

I don't really need to buy a new VV/VW right now, but I just sold off my old Sigelei 20w (my last VV/VW) with the intent of applying the cash to a new VV/VW box mod, so…I'm a little itchy.

Generally looking at the 100w level. I like running the majority of my drippers/dual-coil tanks in the .4-.6 range, though I've got a Mutation set up at .2, so it would be good to be able to run all of them at full 4.2v.

That said, I can always continue to run my cloud chasers on mechanicals (I don't cloud chase too often), so that's not a deal breaker. That's also why the new IPV 70w seems appealing (and I don't necessarily mind lugging around extra batts) - I can run most of my current setups on it (obviously, my .4-.45 setups will not run full 4.2v, unfortunately) and will not have to buy new batteries.

I would like to be able to build one build for both mechanical (for when I go out) and for VV/VW. I don't want to have to buy double the atties just to have the same set-up available for each rig.

I've been debating the one-battery/two-battery boxes - one-battery is nice for small form factor and ability to use the half-dozen batteries I am currently running; two-battery is nice for, well, two batteries, lol (though it also includes the less appealing "double the amount of batteries I have to buy" feature, which will add to my costs significantly).

Is there a good reason to wait a while to get my next VV/VW? Or are we looking at a box mod sweet spot for the time being?

 

[sparkky1]

Sigelei 50W v2 Box Mod - Eciggity

 

[djironic]

Sigelei 50W v2 Box Mod - Eciggity

But do I pull the trigger on that one (despite it being slightly underpowered for my purposes), or wait for the Sigelei XX-W V3/4/5 that will be arriving soon to blow this one out of the water?

(In other words, I get that your recommendation is one of the best right now, and I sincerely appreciate the recommendation, but I'm curious if there are some advances just around the corner (and no, not 40w TP, lol) that would be worth waiting for)

Appreciate the vote of confidence for the Sigelei, tho'!

 

[Jockamo]

Like other technology, there will always be something else around the corner. Buy something and enjoy it otherwise you will always be waiting.

 

[Marc411]

Really the only exciting thing will be the new versions coming out for temp control. Yihi has a TC unit the SX Mini coming out in March/April.

I own the SX Mini and like it a lot, other reviews have been pretty positive even from PB.

If TC isn't what you after than I would have to agree with Jockamo, there is some cool stuff out there now.

 

[Croak]

If you can, wait. March will be about as interesting as December/January was.

Temperature control will be mainstream, even in high wattage devices, and it's going to be affordable. There will be 100w+ TC capable box mods sooner rather than later..

Form factors are shrinking, the relatively huge and ugly enclosures that dominated last year's high-wattage boxes will be replaced with more compact and stylish dual battery setups, some clones or riffs on low production high dollar authentics, some new designs.

 

[SavePaperVapor]

I see a lot of these, "I need 100+ watts for my style" posts lately. What many don't realize is that you really don't have to hit a .2 coil on a regulated device to get a mech result. With a mech your dealing with 4.2 max voltage, which degrades quickly. With a regulated device you can double that voltage, and sustain it for hours. Look for a device with 50-60 watts with a max voltage around 9-10 and you will get the result you want.

 

[KC33]

As other's have said, unless you want TC this is a nice deal. Newest Sigelei 150W V2 Watt Box Mod 18650 Black in Stock Now IPV Watt 100 50 | eBay

 

[SavePaperVapor]

If you can, wait. March will be about as interesting as December/January was.

Temperature control will be mainstream, even in high wattage devices, and it's going to be affordable. There will be 100w+ TC capable box mods sooner rather than later..

Form factors are shrinking, the relatively huge and ugly enclosures that dominated last year's high-wattage boxes will be replaced with more compact and stylish dual battery setups, some clones or riffs on low production high dollar authentics, some new designs.

Spot on, my man.

 

[93gc40]

There will always be "The Next Big Thing".. If you wait for it, you get NOTHING.

 

[KurrptSenate]

you have to decide what you want out of an APV/box and see if there is anything out right now that would do everything you want.

if there is (probably is) you might as well

 

[djironic]

I see a lot of these, "I need 100+ watts for my style" posts lately. What many don't realize is that you really don't have to hit a .2 coil on a regulated device to get a mech result. With a mech your dealing with 4.2 max voltage, which degrades quickly. With a regulated device you can double that voltage, and sustain it for hours. Look for a device with 50-60 watts with a max voltage around 9-10 and you will get the result you want.

I totally get that and appreciate the implications.

However, I ideally would like to be able to use the same setup on both my mechanicals and my VV/VW.

For example, my Magma gets a lot of use. I would like to take it off my box mod and put it on a mechanical for nights out, without having to spend time rebuilding it.

 

[djironic]

There will always be "The Next Big Thing".. If you wait for it, you get NOTHING.

Yeah, but getting nothing is what I should have done when I decided that Kayfuns were where it was at and I stocked up, lol. :face palm:

I'm tired of having to upgrade every couple of months and losing my shirt every time, lol. I only bought my Sigelei 20w like seven months ago, and I had to sell it for pennies-on-the-dollar to get rid of it - it was barely usable for my new atties after only three months...

 

[KC33]

This is the nature of the business, just like tech products.

 

[djironic]

This is the nature of the business, just like tech products.

Except no other tech products get quite this much "blow back" (punny!) from the wife, lol.

 

[Garemlin]

At the rate new devices are being announced and released you really only need to wait a few months for the next new hotness. Hell it is so bad that Smok replaced devices in it's line-up before they were even released. Good thing is what is hot today will be much cheaper, but still a great choice in 2-3 months.

 

[djironic]

If you can, wait. March will be about as interesting as December/January was.

Thanks for the insight! I can wait.

TThere will be 100w+ TC capable box mods sooner rather than later

And that would be a decent reason to wait, especially if TC shows it's viability and while improving usability (thinking Kanthal here…).

Form factors are shrinking, the relatively huge and ugly enclosures that dominated last year's high-wattage boxes will be replaced with more compact and stylish dual battery setups

If they can pull that off, I say THAT would be a fantastic reason to wait a couple months!

 

[Fictitious Character]

Always going to be something new about to hit. If you are not in need of something might as well wait for the April or March stuff to be readily available. If you are not swept off your feet with that gear the stuff you are interested in now will be even cheaper.

 

[Marc411]

I only bought my Sigelei 20w like seven months ago, and I had to sell it for pennies-on-the-dollar to get rid of it - it was barely usable for my new atties after only three months...

Oh man I wish I would have know you sold it for pennies on the dollar. I still have mine and I use it to jump from mech to regulated. Personally I still a fan of the old 20W.

I also have the Sigelei 100W Plus which is nice for jumping back and forth and it is dual 18650 which gives me more miles per charge. At this stage of the game everything is moving to fast. My 100W really see's anything over 35 watts. The SX Mini has been my go to regulated mod. Unregulated I pick up my REO.

 

[djironic]

My 100W really see's anything over 35 watts

Yeah, I usually run 15-25 watts on my single coil tanks, 30-35 watts on my dual-coil tanks, and 30-45 watts on the majority of my drippers (all on mechanicals, of course). I only have one or two drippers that push upwards of 100 watts, and I don't hit them all that often.

I'm interested in the higher wattage boxes mostly for A) battery life and B) maximum flexibility. It would be nice to have a "one-size-fits-all" solution, but I will probably go for a single-battery option.