Should I get a carto puncher?

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WillyB

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... Good point Wille. To help with that I bevel my slots on both sides, then place the carto into a drill and use emory cloth to smooth down any rough edges.

Also, I really like the triple punched cartos also. I will need to pick some more of those up. They works great with juices up to a 40/60 blend, and did OK with very high vg liquids as well.

Sounds like wayyyyyyyy to much trouble. :) It also seems like getting consistent results will be tough.

I always find PG to VG ratios don't tell us much, as it doesn't take into account flavorings for one, and I doubt that every VG out there has the same viscosity. Alcohol, PG and water are common carriers, how much flavoring has been added? 2, 5, 10, 15, 20%? If the stuff is too thick as little as 3 drops of water per tankful will change the viscosity.

I've basically gone to single coil, 2Ω Boge and smok cartos. They both seem much more tolerant of hole/slot size. I have also decided that the shorter ones perform better over the long haul when tanked than their XL brothers. I've also found that a couple top offs through my drip tip help for the first tank, they loosen up after that.

As far as punching the finickiness of the piercing valve got old. I quickly built this after seeing a few similar designs out there.

Dougiestyle had a neat, no frills, press together approach.

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Another.

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Mine was precision engineered from exotic wood I found in the garage and modeled after Fono's Phideas. :)

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The main hole (carto diameter) was drilled to the correct depth to put the punch in the right pace, the 'stop' is just 2 carto end plugs. No need to count turns, when the stop makes contact it's done.

No need to clean up anything, no need for anything except a screwdriver, and the hole is consistent, every time. It really is a 10 second job.
 
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Frigging awesome WB!

Yeah, it is a little work, but the distorted carto from piercing bothers me more than a few more moments of work. But that is just me. Plus, I don't have the supply of rare exotic hardwoods like you ;)
The very nature of the design with a properly sized hole to surround the carto firmly, results in almost zero distortion.
 

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Cheap, works well, I'm still using the first screw, from Feb, after quite a few cartos: Cartomizer Punch

Tighten the screw until it contacts the carto body, then two full turns.

Practice on a junker carto, you'll quickly get the hang of it. I use Ikenvape 801 fusion cartos in a notcigs M1A1 tank -- sliding the carto all the way to the flange is perfect for this. For other tanks, thicker end caps, you'll typically want about 1/8" of carto exposed, to get the hole high enough to clear the end cap.
 
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Another.

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Mine was precision engineered from exotic wood I found in the garage and modeled after Fono's Phideas. :)

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I love that exotic wood you used. It's exquisite!

I've made one out of polymer clay. It's kind of pretty. I took a bunch of left over scraps from my kids projects and swirled them all together. Mine only works with a nail and hammer, but I'm thinking about making another with an embedded nut that I can thread a screw into. The polymer clay itself is not hard enough to stand up to a screw.
 

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I slotted a half year, before switching to the hub/screw. I was happy with the slotting, but honestly the hub punch I posted the link for is faster, way simpler/more consistent than fritzing with saddle valves, low cost, just plain works well. I came up with the build for it, wanted cheap and easy; the vendor is using the parts I listed over in a PIF thread, selling them at cost. (the hub is easy to get, but the 1/4-20 screws are a PITA due to S&H, so someone selling the parts combined is a win)
 
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