That said then, I highly recommend the Provari. I went from eGo's to the Provari, and not a stitch of regret. Best money spent IMHO.
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Love my chrome LT, with Tube tank, works great, and whole setup cost 1/2 of Provari alone. I vacillated like you, but am very satisfied with choice.
I have 3 provari's and I think they're great PVs I also have a lava tube and a mini lava tube they're not on par with my provari's but they work OK
If you're looking for something similar to a Provari but are having second thoughts on the price, I suggest looking at a Vmax. It's cheaper than a Provari and sure, you get what you pay for, but if the differences are acceptable to you, then it's certainly an option.
The issue I find with the VMax is the voltage settings. 3.5v on the VMax is not 3.5v. With the Provari, what you set is what you get. You set it to 4.0v, that's what you get under load no matter what the load. If you decide on the VMax, keep this in mind. Start really low and work your way up to find that sweet spot in voltage.
Would you say that the difference in performance is negligible based on the price difference?
I just bought a stainless steel v-tube from Apollo. Should get it tomorrow.
I almost bought the Provari but when I loaded up the shopping cart with the Provari, extension, batteries (2 of each size), and Pila charger the tab was well over $300 without shipping. Since I'm just barely over a month into vaping, I decided to test out the variable voltage waters for under 1/4 of that price with the v-tube ($73 and free shipping).
Only time will tell if I made the right decision. The plethora of new variable voltage devices may drive down the Provar cost, so it may be cheaper a year from now.
I almost bought the Provari but when I loaded up the shopping cart with the Provari, extension, batteries (2 of each size), and Pila charger the tab was well over $300 without shipping. Since I'm just barely over a month into vaping, I decided to test out the variable voltage waters for under 1/4 of that price with the v-tube ($73 and free shipping).
Only time will tell if I made the right decision. The plethora of new variable voltage devices may drive down the Provar cost, so it may be cheaper a year from now.
Simply, Provari will give you what you've set it for or it will tell you that it can't - no guessing. On VMax like devices, if you operate them within know parameters (voltage vs resistance) you'll also get what you expect. The difference is that if you don't know the VMax operating parameters, it may, or may not deliver what you expect.
Not to sidetrack the convo, but I'm thinking about picking up a VMax (based off strong reviews). It'll be my first VV PV though, and I'm confused when you say:
(V x V) \ R = Power
Doesn't the VMax display it's current voltage? And the resistance you should know based off what you buy.. so I'm confused. What do you mean by that?
There isn't as big a price difference between the VMax and the Provari as you may think.
Provari, 2 18500 batteries, and charger: $186.68 (I can find the charger and batteries cheaper here in Canada though to save a couple bucks, not from Provape's site)
VMax, 2 sets of batteries (4 Total) and a charger: $133.70
So for $50, the differience in price is more than worth it.
Provari, 2 18500 batteries, and charger: $186.68 (I can find the charger and batteries cheaper here in Canada though to save a couple bucks, not from Provape's site)
VMax, 2 sets of batteries (4 Total) and a charger: $133.70
So for $50, the differience in price is more than worth it.
As far as I know (I don't have one, I have a V1 Lavatube), You can set the VMax to the voltage you want, it will deliver what it can based on max current, max voltage capabilities, and atty/carto resistance. AFAIK, it does not quarantee it will deliver what you set it to or tell you that it cannot.
I am not knocking the VV pv's out there, but as Sailor and I have spoken of if you already know that the voltage you are getting with the ego works for you with the juices you like, then VV may not be the best option at this time. Why spend a couple hundred to set a device to 3.7 and leave it there, when you can get something like the SB a lot cheaper, and have the quality you want.
Just something to think about.
I have several 3.7 devices and decided to try a VV and went with the ego twist to give VV a try and I love it so far.
Now you should be able to see why I said not to get into a rush and enjoy the ride in my first post. There are a lot of suggestions so far in this thread, and there isn't a thing wrong with any of them. I will say this, once you know what you do like you can produce that same hit with almost any PV you want to name. You see, regardless of what PV you choose, it is still only 1/3 of the equation. The juice you choose and the atty/carto are equally important. Rest assured, the best PV on the planet is perfectly capable of producing the worse vape you ever imagined any time you want it to.
You should be able to get a LavaTube V1 for around £25... There is a vendor in the UK doing them for that. Add on a charger and some batteries and you are looking at around £45 or so all in.
Compare that to over £200 for a Provari and you are looking at a really good deal. (especially if you need VV now and are saving up your hard earned pennies for a Provari)
I have had a Lavatube v1 for around 4 months and just got some Ego Twists.. Which are great for me as I never go much above 4.8 volts anyway on a SR 3ohm carto.... Keep your eyes open, as because of the availability of these babies (as well as other cheaper VV devices such as the iTaste thingy) the original Lavatubes WILL come down in price as vendors try and clear stock for when the new LT's are released.
For the money, and an entry into the world of VV either of these devices will work well for you.
My minor bugbear with the Vmax is it really isn't a do what it says on the display kinda device. Plus it's only $30 cheaper than a Provari last time I looked (It may have come down in price now though) - so if you were to go with one of these, why not get a Provari??
I have heard that the voltages are way, way higher than the device specifies on a Vmax... Also, its a stacked battery mod. I'm just not sold on it as for me stacking batteries is not something I'd choose to do. Still, by all accounts it packs a real punch so it may be great for some. (I'm not bothered really by what a display states - I find my sweetspot by taste)
Having said that, The Lavatube V1 is also a little quirky with the display not showing actually what you are vaping at. Use a single coil 3ohm carto and it's built in restrictions won't be much of an issue. I started on LR cartos and it just wasn't all that great. I switched to single coils and it's a great device for the money...
Having said all this. My next major purchase will probably be a Provari, but not for a while as I simply don't need one. I want one, yes. But I don't actually need one. There is a huge difference... They seem to be the iPhone of the VV world and hard to beat by all accounts... Bloody overpriced still though I think. Knock off £30, or offer it complete with all the extras and I'll be sorely tempted,
But, and this is a big but in my eyes... Er... £27 for an end cap? Really? Cant vape that... - I can get a twist and 5 cartos for the price of a bit of steel tubing with a thread on it.... Extra £15 for a different coloured LED? Really? Can't vape colours - That's an EGO battery - Someone has seen us all coming and the worse the hype surrounding the Provari gets, the more justified the manufacturers will feel about literally fleecing people. I seriously doubt it is £180 better than my Ego Twist. £100 better, maybe.
Compare that to over £200 for a Provari and you are looking at a really good deal. (especially if you need VV now and are saving up your hard earned pennies for a Provari)
I have had a Lavatube v1 for around 4 months and just got some Ego Twists.. Which are great for me as I never go much above 4.8 volts anyway on a SR 3ohm carto.... Keep your eyes open, as because of the availability of these babies (as well as other cheaper VV devices such as the iTaste thingy) the original Lavatubes WILL come down in price as vendors try and clear stock for when the new LT's are released.
For the money, and an entry into the world of VV either of these devices will work well for you.
My minor bugbear with the Vmax is it really isn't a do what it says on the display kinda device. Plus it's only $30 cheaper than a Provari last time I looked (It may have come down in price now though) - so if you were to go with one of these, why not get a Provari??
I have heard that the voltages are way, way higher than the device specifies on a Vmax... Also, its a stacked battery mod. I'm just not sold on it as for me stacking batteries is not something I'd choose to do. Still, by all accounts it packs a real punch so it may be great for some. (I'm not bothered really by what a display states - I find my sweetspot by taste)
Having said that, The Lavatube V1 is also a little quirky with the display not showing actually what you are vaping at. Use a single coil 3ohm carto and it's built in restrictions won't be much of an issue. I started on LR cartos and it just wasn't all that great. I switched to single coils and it's a great device for the money...
Having said all this. My next major purchase will probably be a Provari, but not for a while as I simply don't need one. I want one, yes. But I don't actually need one. There is a huge difference... They seem to be the iPhone of the VV world and hard to beat by all accounts... Bloody overpriced still though I think. Knock off £30, or offer it complete with all the extras and I'll be sorely tempted,
But, and this is a big but in my eyes... Er... £27 for an end cap? Really? Cant vape that... - I can get a twist and 5 cartos for the price of a bit of steel tubing with a thread on it.... Extra £15 for a different coloured LED? Really? Can't vape colours - That's an EGO battery - Someone has seen us all coming and the worse the hype surrounding the Provari gets, the more justified the manufacturers will feel about literally fleecing people. I seriously doubt it is £180 better than my Ego Twist. £100 better, maybe.
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I'm looking into VV as well, and while I'd love a Provari or whatever, it's not in the budget. Which leaves me with things like box mods, the LT, Twist and the Ovale V8 which is what I'm getting soon.
The full kit for the Ovale is about $40 from DV. Now it's a PMW PV, but that really doesn't concern me. Results do.
A lot of people love it, and it's just a neat device with nice color and finish options to boot.
A review:
Discussion topic w/ pics and such.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...6-ovale-v8-vv-discussion.html?highlight=ovale
The full kit for the Ovale is about $40 from DV. Now it's a PMW PV, but that really doesn't concern me. Results do.
A lot of people love it, and it's just a neat device with nice color and finish options to boot.
A review:
Discussion topic w/ pics and such.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...6-ovale-v8-vv-discussion.html?highlight=ovale
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Ah, my bad then. I'd assumed that with all of the people talking about how accurate the Provari is on voltages and such that it wasn't a PWM unit.
I would recommend getting the most advanced mod you can afford. I have been vaping for over a month - started with a V2 manual battery (roughly the same size as an analog cig) and quickly moved to a 3VO type mod that cost me roughly the same as my V2 kit.
So... by now I have spent more $ on both kits combined than I would have spent on the Provari in the first place.
However, I would not have fully appreciated all that the Provari (or other advanced VV mods) can do without muddling through with my first two kits.
A wise man once said, "When I quit smoking and started vaping - I lost a habit and picked up a hobby"
Happy Vaping!
So... by now I have spent more $ on both kits combined than I would have spent on the Provari in the first place.
However, I would not have fully appreciated all that the Provari (or other advanced VV mods) can do without muddling through with my first two kits.
A wise man once said, "When I quit smoking and started vaping - I lost a habit and picked up a hobby"
Happy Vaping!
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