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    @Jordannn15 I almost forgot to mention in case you didn't know that your juice plays another part in the formation of clouds. Higher VG juices produce more vapor which also tends to be denser.The higher the PG you have then the less vapor production but the higher the throat hit and the burn feeling. I usually make my clouds using at least juice that is 85% VG ..... I certainly wouldn't go below 85% as the clouds won't be dense or large. Some folks use 90% VG and a few use 100% VG....... Personally, I like 85% because I can still mix in 15% flavor. I was running 90% VG juice but I discovered that my dropping it to 85% it was still thick enough to make clouds but yet left enough room to add enough flavoring. Also, in order to use thick, high VG juices, you have to have a fairly new clearomizer in order to handle the thicker juices. Most of the newest clearomizer tanks have large fluid ports and so the thick fluid easily saturates the wicking. Some of the older clearomizers could not handle the thicker juices very well and you would often get dry hits. I have NOT ONCE had a dry hit with the Arctic tank that I am using and this is one of the reasons I selected this tank for myself. There are lots of good tanks out there for thick juices and most of them are the newer ones.
     

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    Lol, no I was not kidding. Thanks for the explanation instead of just making fun of my ignorance :). That's true about the subox so I will probably go with the Innokin. So right now if I were to buy the Innokin iTaste MVP 3.0 Pro Starter Kit, what would I have to replace? Just juice and coils or what?
    Lol, no I was not kidding. Thanks for the explanation instead of just making fun of my ignorance :). That's true about the subox so I will probably go with the Innokin. So right now if I were to buy the Innokin iTaste MVP 3.0 Pro Starter Kit, what would I have to replace? Just juice and coils or what?


    Yeah I didn't even really know what to google at first. I wish there was an Innokin mvp 3.0 pro starter kit on amazon that has prime shipping (I love amazon primes free 2 day and like 3.99 one day shipping). I'm not looking to get in to competitions with my clouds like chasers, just a good sized cloud with some density.
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    Yeah, just juice and coils. FWIW, the MVP uses a non replaceable LiPo battery pack and, like all batteries, they wear out over time. Eventually, it will have to be replaced, but that's 2-5 years down the road; by which time, if you're like most of us, you will have acquired other gear and possibly retired the MVP. I just looked, and vaporauthority.com has the starter kit on sale for $72 today. No idea how long it lasts. Finally, if your vape is too powerful or hot, and cranking down the wattage doesn't help or fails to give you the clouds you want, add an Aspire Nautilus or Mini Nautilus to your kit. That tank has more coil options above 1 Ohm and will cool it down some. It's a good tank-- my usual recommendation for beginners-- but you don't have to have it right away; or at all if the iSub isn't overpowering. Come back and talk to us when you're ready to start rebuildables.
     

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    @Jordannn15 I almost forgot to mention in case you didn't know that your juice plays another part in the formation of clouds. Higher VG juices produce more vapor which also tends to be denser.The higher the PG you have then the less vapor production but the higher the throat hit and the burn feeling. I usually make my clouds using at least juice that is 85% VG ..... I certainly wouldn't go below 85% as the clouds won't be dense or large. Some folks use 90% VG and a few use 100% VG....... Personally, I like 85% because I can still mix in 15% flavor. I was running 90% VG juice but I discovered that my dropping it to 85% it was still thick enough to make clouds but yet left enough room to add enough flavoring. Also, in order to use thick, high VG juices, you have to have a fairly new clearomizer in order to handle the thicker juices. Most of the newest clearomizer tanks have large fluid ports and so the thick fluid easily saturates the wicking. Some of the older clearomizers could not handle the thicker juices very well and you would often get dry hits. I have NOT ONCE had a dry hit with the Arctic tank that I am using and this is one of the reasons I selected this tank for myself. There are lots of good tanks out there for thick juices and most of them are the newer ones.

    So ~85-100% VG juice but if I were to get 100% VG juice, I wouldn't be able to get a flavor? What did you mean by the 15% of flavor? I like really dense clouds, they don't have to be huge, just dense.

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    Yeah, just juice and coils. FWIW, the MVP uses a non replaceable LiPo battery pack and, like all batteries, they wear out over time. Eventually, it will have to be replaced, but that's 2-5 years down the road; by which time, if you're like most of us, you will have acquired other gear and possibly retired the MVP. I just looked, and vaporauthority.com has the starter kit on sale for $72 today. No idea how long it lasts. Finally, if your vape is too powerful or hot, and cranking down the wattage doesn't help or fails to give you the clouds you want, add an Aspire Nautilus or Mini Nautilus to your kit. That tank has more coil options above 1 Ohm and will cool it down some. It's a good tank-- my usual recommendation for beginners-- but you don't have to have it right away; or at all if the iSub isn't overpowering. Come back and talk to us when you're ready to start rebuildables.

    How hot will it be (hard question to answer sorry)? So higher ohm coils and lower wattage produce cooler vapor?
     

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    So ~85-100% VG juice but if I were to get 100% VG juice, I wouldn't be able to get a flavor? What did you mean by the 15% of flavor? I like really dense clouds, they don't have to be huge, just dense.



    How hot will it be (hard question to answer sorry)? So higher ohm coils and lower wattage produce cooler vapor?
    I've never tried 85%+ VG, I don't know about flavor. In general, yes, the higher the ohms of the coil and higher power the mod, the hotter the vape. How hot, you'll have to judge for yourself, it's pretty subjective. The flavor makes a difference, too. Mints and menthols vape "cooler" than they come off the coil, for example.
     

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    So ~85-100% VG juice but if I were to get 100% VG juice, I wouldn't be able to get a flavor? What did you mean by the 15% of flavor? I like really dense clouds, they don't have to be huge, just dense.

    Yes, the HIGHER the VG then the DENSER the clouds. I mix my own juice and so I vape around 85 to 90% VG........ Lots of folks vape at 50% VG and that provides good throat hits and flavor but it's not good at all for dense clouds. The HIGHER the VG the better as far as dense clouds are concerned. Any good online seller of e juices will allow you to select the ratio of PG to VG when you purchase the juice. Lots of sellers will sell juices at 80% VG and that is "fairly" good for dense cloud creation. When I mentioned the 15% flavor, I meant that depending upon the flavor, I usually make 15% of my juice to be composed of flavoring. The other 85% is compose mostly of VG and my usual fix of nicotine.
     

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    Anyone have recommendations for good places to buy 0 nic juice, good flavors, and VG/PG ratio selection? Also, since I am going to go with the Innokin MVP 3.0 Pro starter kit, how will I know when I need a new coil?
    I don't like to recommend juice. I DIY, and I'm not familiar with it. You'll know about the coil. It will either burn out and it won't work at all, or the wick will plug up and then burn, so it will taste foul. Soaking your coil in PGA for a half hour then rinsing thoroughly under running hot water can de-gunk them, making them last longer. I did it once a week or so, every time I cleaned the tank. It really depends on your juices, sweet and creme juices are famous for gunking wick.
     
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    Depends on the flavor profile you like. Fruity, desert types, tobacco flavors, menthol. There are even bizarre flavors like blue cheese.

    Just go to a few vape shops for taste testing to see what fits you. Most likely anywhere will have a zero nicotine option.

    As for online ordering Mount Baker has huge selection for not a lot of money.
     
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    Okay I will not start on nicotine lol. Could you give me a suggestion, somewhere to start off looking and what I should look for?
    What you might like is the new Subox Kit from Kangertech. Could get it for under $60.00 from MVP and Fastech.
    You will need a good quality battery with this kit, an appropriate / safe 18650 is a must.
    The Subox mod can recharge the battery.
    They come in black & white, both with matching tank and mod. Looks great

    A simple iLeaf/iStick 50 watt mod would be my first suggestion, 4400 mah preinstalled battery included. But I love the feel and look of the Kt. Subox
    Off course, (To Each His/Her Own ) And nobody's wrong.

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    If its the flavours you could have some great chocolate/snacks whatever without the risks, some of which are hard to completely nail down at this point.

    What are these snacks you speak of that are without risk? Please, someone tell me / us about these items on this planet that hold no risks to those that use them. I'd like to see that, for surely it would be the most significant news in the history of the universe.
     
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    I will be ordering the Innokin iTaste MVP 3.0 Pro Starter Kit, 5 pack of replacement coils, and three or four 15ml bottles of juice next week. All from Mt Baker Vapor for under $100 shipped. The first time I go to vape, do I have to do anything special or just connect the atomizer to the box (charge it oviously), fill it with juice, turn it on and go once it's heated up? Also, what do I need to clean and how often?
     
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    What are these snacks you speak of that are without risk? Please, someone tell me / us about these items on this planet that hold no risks to those that use them. I'd like to see that, for surely it would be the most significant news in the history of the universe.

    I think I can love to vape but still consider a fine bar of chocolate a couple of times a week lower risk than some of the byproducts of vaping pg and flavorings.
     
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