Sigelei Mechnical Mods

[ClippinWings]

I fail to see how battery orientation makes any difference if we're talking about a device with no spring.

Of course if there's actually any logic and/or science behind this claim we'd all appreciate seeing it rather than sarcastic comments.

Standard Orientation:

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Reversed:

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if the sheath on the battery, the colored plasticy part becomes damaged, the casing of the battery(-) could come in contact with the tube of the mod(now + because of the reversed battery).

this would cause a hard short

A hard short looks like this(fast forward to 1:58):

 

[pmar4015]

So where can I buy an "AFPV"?

 

[The Yeti]

Standard Orientation:

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+[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[-|
-----------------------

Reversed:

++++++++++++++++++
-[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[+|
++++++++++++++++++

if the sheath on the battery, the colored plasticy part becomes damaged, the casing of the battery(-) could come in contact with the tube of the mod(now + because of the reversed battery).

this would cause a hard short

A hard short looks like this(fast forward to 1:58):

OK, maybe I won't reverse my bats anymore after all. That is not something I want happening 2 inches from my face!

 

[ClippinWings]

OK, maybe I won't reverse my bats anymore after all. That is not something I want happening 2 inches from my face!

Funny... videos like that usually have that reaction.

Admittedly, this guy hooked it up to a car battery or something... but, the idea is the same... batteries CAN explode

 

[The Yeti]

I've always used the safe(r) chem bats (AW IMRs) though. Does this make a significant difference to what would happen if a hard short occurs?

 

[bapgood]

But a good 1/16" thick silver plated magnet would solve the need for an upside down battery or spring, or you could solder a copper or brass washer to the bottom of the battery, etc.....just thinking out loud

 

[bapgood]

I've always used the safe(r) chem bats (AW IMRs) though. Does this make a significant difference to what would happen if a hard short occurs?

To many factors go into it to give a consice answer....but yes, in the right circumstances. But you also have to add in the metal battery case and typically the mod as well and now you an even more dangerous situation.

 

[st0nedpenguin]

Standard Orientation:

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+[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[-|
-----------------------

Reversed:

++++++++++++++++++
-[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[+|
++++++++++++++++++

if the sheath on the battery, the colored plasticy part becomes damaged, the casing of the battery(-) could come in contact with the tube of the mod(now + because of the reversed battery).

this would cause a hard short

A hard short looks like this(fast forward to 1:58):

But now we're talking battery wrap issues here, not strictly orientation. A battery the right way up will short if the outside of the wrap is busted too.

Taking damaged batteries out of the equation I still fail to see any issue with a reversed battery.

 

[bapgood]

But now we're talking battery wrap issues here, not strictly orientation. A battery the right way up will short if the outside of the wrap is busted too.

Taking damaged batteries out of the equation I still fail to see any issue with a reversed battery.

Once you pull the wrap of the battery then all exposed metal is negative except the isolated positive end.

So with a commando battery in upside down, if any portion of the battery body touches the mod tube you have a dead short.

 

[icucme2]

Anyone know where we can buy a hot spring?

 

[mrcrunch08]

I may be a little off topic with the battery thing but am I wrong to think some of the delrin underneath the 510 adapter on the #20 could be shaved down along with the pin to create a deeper well to allow at least some devices to sit flush? I know the switch can be dissasembled and I think I remember ........ posting pics of one taken apart when I made my preorder. You might not be able to get it in such a way that everything sits flush or even works that way but I'm thinking you could at least set it up to get a few things to go flush. I have to admit even with the problems it is a nice looking device for the money and can't wait till mine gets here monday.

 

[bapgood]

This should clear it up

 

[peraspera]

Anyone know where we can buy a hot spring?

According to reports on the VAMO forum these are all the same hot spring but the three vendors are using different names for it. I can personally confirm that the ones from Altsmoke and Avid are the same because I have springs from both vendors. Also, the Altsmoke site seems to be currently undergoing construction and will be down until 5/13.
Hot Spring - Silver Bullet / OmeGa - electronic-cigz.com
HeliX hot spring - Avid Vaper
Silver Bullet/Omega - Replacement Hot Spring - Altsmoke

 

[Porksmuggler]

Anyone know where we can buy a hot spring?

There's lots of places to get a brass spring, they even have them all fancy and rhodium plated here.

Roller/Dingo: Battery Spring | atmizoo vaping modware | shop

Recommend against the silver plated though.

 

[anavidfan]

So I ordered a Sigelei from Stormys. Heck it was on sale plus I got to use the 10% off coupon. My questions are these: Is the 510 connection similar to the Natural and like I did for it, can I sand down the top so my batteries can sit flush. Can a kick be used with 18350 and 18500 batteries or do I need a special extra tube.

Thanks for the help and suggestions. I have a natural that I use in the macro mode with an 18350 battery and I really like it. All I did to modify it was take care of the top 510 connection. Ive been too lazy to deal with sanding down the button connections, etc. Hits hard enough for me.

If I do decide to do the sanding of the button connections etc, are there any particular links to videos that cover most of that?

 

[Porksmuggler]

So I ordered a Sigelei from Stormys. Heck it was on sale plus I got to use the 10% off coupon. My questions are these: Is the 510 connection similar to the Natural and like I did for it, can I sand down the top so my batteries can sit flush. Can a kick be used with 18350 and 18500 batteries or do I need a special extra tube.

Thanks for the help and suggestions. I have a natural that I use in the macro mode with an 18350 battery and I really like it. All I did to modify it was take care of the top 510 connection. Ive been too lazy to deal with sanding down the button connections, etc. Hits hard enough for me.

If I do decide to do the sanding of the button connections etc, are there any particular links to videos that cover most of that?

Which Sigelei did you order? If it's the #20, yes you can sand the 510, yes the kick fits, best to use the 18500 with it. If it's the #20, there's nothing to sand on the button, though the spring appears to be stainless steel and should be replaced with brass, or nickel plated brass (less tarnish, negligible diff. in conductivity).

 

[ClippinWings]

But now we're talking battery wrap issues here, not strictly orientation. A battery the right way up will short if the outside of the wrap is busted too.

Taking damaged batteries out of the equation I still fail to see any issue with a reversed battery.

No it wouldn't... With the wrap removed. The outside of the battery is -. If it's in the right way, the tube is also negative, so no problem.

There is no problem with orientation UNLESS the wrap is damaged... Like I said

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[anavidfan]

Im not sure of the model number, its this one. On another note Ive seen a Sigelei that comes with a brass top and bottom cap, think its the 13a? I have never seen it for sale.

 

[Porksmuggler]

So I ordered a Sigelei from Stormys. Heck it was on sale plus I got to use the 10% off coupon. My questions are these: Is the 510 connection similar to the Natural and like I did for it, can I sand down the top so my batteries can sit flush. Can a kick be used with 18350 and 18500 batteries or do I need a special extra tube.

Thanks for the help and suggestions. I have a natural that I use in the macro mode with an 18350 battery and I really like it. All I did to modify it was take care of the top 510 connection. Ive been too lazy to deal with sanding down the button connections, etc. Hits hard enough for me.

If I do decide to do the sanding of the button connections etc, are there any particular links to videos that cover most of that?

Okay that's the #8. No, you don't need to sand the 510, it's flush, and I've read the kick doesn't fit correctly (I don't use a kick to test).

You can sand the switch pin and negative/positive posts to brass, but know that brass oxidizes more quickly and will need to be cleaned frequently. I can't exactly tell, but they appear to be nickel plated (not chrome like the caps), so I wouldn't bother unless you're really going for every bit of voltage on a low sub ohm setup.

 

[techmatlock]

Im not sure of the model number, its this one. On another note Ive seen a Sigelei that comes with a brass top and bottom cap, think its the 13a? I have never seen it for sale.

The Sigelei in the picture is a #8. The brass top and bottom cap I believe is the #20.