Silver Bullet Question...

[kickitback]

How far do u drive?
Drip and drive is not hard, you can get 5-6 drops in it and will last you a good 10+ puffs, next stop light put some more. Even if u use the carts you will go dry after a few puffs regardless . I drive cross country and never had a problem dripping - you do not need to risk yourself or nothing, you can stop for 30 sec anywhere, drip and you good to go for another 30 min - thats if you vape like a mad man-constantly lol

Anyways, after you get use to dripping its easy and fun. Do what's best for you and what makes you feel comfortable, I used the blue foam on my 510 carts and got a good 15 drops in it ( you will never get to vape it all, mostly the upper side of it ), its was ok for a while on the 510, 801 or 3.7v devices but no way to do it with a 6v device - you just get burnt taste.

 

[Byrd]

The blue foam only works with 3.7v IMO, otherwise it tastes funny but if u go that route, I get 13 drops in the cart the add the blue foam "plug". cut it 1 and a half times the wisth of cart, both directions into a square, squeeze w tweezers and insert just below the edge of cart, letting it expand to "plug" cart-works very well. At 6v, I have to agree-dripping is DEF the way to go

Appreciate the info. I probably would be dripping at 6V, but I'm probably going to fill carts to a degree at 3.7V. Thanks again for replying.​

 

[marbass]

Hi there everybody at the Altsmoke community.
I'm Greek and I've been attending this forum for a few weeks.
Just got my SB (silver) from Ivapor (from UK) and I'd like to ask/comment something relative to the sealed top of the SB.

First, SB is lovely in its looks. Looks and feels very classy.

I've made my owns simple mod. It's a copper tube with two copper caps. I use a 14500 battery and 510/901/801 atties and works fine.
I expected that SB would work, if not much better, at least as good as my mod. BUT unfortunately NO.
Since I'm still expecting batteries (18650 and CR123A) from China, I gave SB a try with the 14500. Just put a copper piece under the spring to extend it and here I go.
The vapor production is poorer (not much but noticeable) and the taste is a bit less (still not much but noticeable, too). Feels like just like when the battery is draining out and struggles to provide sufficient power to the atty.
I can't give a reasonable explanation than the following two:
1) In order to prevent liquid penetration in the SB, the center contact at the atty thread of the SB is been made flat. The little vent hole at the bottom of the atty gets completely sealed when it's screwed on the SB and there's not enough air flow.
2) The aluminum construction of the SB doesn't let the current flow as freely as my copper mod!!!!!
I used same atty and battery in both mods.
I "experimented" several times with 510 and 901/801 with adapters from Heaven gift but the result was the same frustrating, specially with the 801.
Any comments or suggestions on that Chad?

 

[Pete54]

I'm sitting here vaping on my BB at 6v using this little cart mod.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/cartridge-mods/58690-b-f-d-cart-mod.html
It empties the cart for me 95% of the time. I just find dripping to be too much hassle. Using the BFD mod I can vape at HV for 30-60 minutes straight. If you try it and it doesn't empty the cart, just trim it down a little bit and try it again. I have about 6 darts that I've made and every one works fine.

 

[crashtestjeep]

Crash, what do you use instead of foam at HV? I was thinking the harsher taste at 6 volts was just the 510 atty, didn't think it could be the foam...

SuperT TTip, look under manufactures here for super t or search for t tip

 

[cddz]

Hi there everybody at the Altsmoke community.
I'm Greek and I've been attending this forum for a few weeks.
Just got my SB (silver) from Ivapor (from UK) and I'd like to ask/comment something relative to the sealed top of the SB.

First, SB is lovely in its looks. Looks and feels very classy.

I've made my owns simple mod. It's a copper tube with two copper caps. I use a 14500 battery and 510/901/801 atties and works fine.
I expected that SB would work, if not much better, at least as good as my mod. BUT unfortunately NO.
Since I'm still expecting batteries (18650 and CR123A) from China, I gave SB a try with the 14500. Just put a copper piece under the spring to extend it and here I go.
The vapor production is poorer (not much but noticeable) and the taste is a bit less (still not much but noticeable, too). Feels like just like when the battery is draining out and struggles to provide sufficient power to the atty.
I can't give a reasonable explanation than the following two:
1) In order to prevent liquid penetration in the SB, the center contact at the atty thread of the SB is been made flat. The little vent hole at the bottom of the atty gets completely sealed when it's screwed on the SB and there's not enough air flow.
2) The aluminum construction of the SB doesn't let the current flow as freely as my copper mod!!!!!
I used same atty and battery in both mods.
I "experimented" several times with 510 and 901/801 with adapters from Heaven gift but the result was the same frustrating, specially with the 801.
Any comments or suggestions on that Chad?

Yes I have a suggestion for you, wait for your 18650 then try it. A piece of copper to fill the gap, that is a 15mm gap...... Secondly the atomizer does not draw air through the center. Third, get a bit more education about current and electricity. Fourth, why would you create an acount just to post this on altsmoke subforum. It is obvious that you are a troll.

 

[Spiker]

Thanks Crash... I have T-Tips (they are awesome!)... so you ONLY drip at 6v? I thought you had another cart filler for 6v. Guess my next step is HV attys, ordered some last night from Eastmall, great price at 3 for $18!

 

[marbass]

@ Chad

Thanks for the welcome mate!!!
Unfortunately you belie all my expectations and all the fine words I've been reading about you. Pity!!!
IT'S OBVIOUS that I'm somebody asking for help, man.
What made you form such an opinion about me? Did I promote somebody's else mod? Did I say something bad about your product? Did I compare it to another mod available in the market? Why would you insult me like that?
My name is Theo. Ask Rob about me. I have chat many times with him on your site. I'm sure he doesn't share the same opinion with you about me!!!!
I've been waiting almost 2 months until SB was available on sale in Ivapor. That much I wanted it and I still believe it's a beautiful product (though a bit expensive like all the mods but less expensive than most of them )

Regarding you comments, I would like to clarify:
1) The piece of copper I used is solid and big enough to fill the HUGE gap of 15mm and make proper and fine contact. I'm not that stupid.
2) My account was created 4 months ago. If I wanted to troll I would have done it MUCH earlier. Just happened to have something to ask you, today.
3) Most of the expensive mods are made of aluminum (none of them I ever had) so the "insult" (if you consider it like this) wouldn't concern only SB but all of them.
4) I may not know that much about electricity (did I claim so?) but 18650 wouldn't provide more voltage than the 14500. The two batteries differ at the capacity level which wouldn't effect my "experiment" especially if 14500 is freshly charged.

 

[cddz]

@ Chad

Thanks for the welcome mate!!!
Unfortunately you belie all my expectations and all the fine words I've been reading about you. Pity!!!
IT'S OBVIOUS that I'm somebody asking for help, man.
What made you form such an opinion about me? Did I promote somebody's else mod? Did I say something bad about your product? Did I compare it to another mod available in the market? Why would you insult me like that?
My name is Theo. Ask Rob about me. I have chat many times with him on your site. I'm sure he doesn't share the same opinion with you about me!!!!
I've been waiting almost 2 months until SB was available on sale in Ivapor. That much I wanted it and I still believe it's a beautiful product (though a bit expensive like all the mods but less expensive than most of them )

Regarding you comments, I would like to clarify:
1) The piece of copper I used is solid and big enough to fill the HUGE gap of 15mm and make proper and fine contact. I'm not that stupid.
2) My account was created 4 months ago. If I wanted to troll I would have done it MUCH earlier. Just happened to have something to ask you, today.
3) Most of the expensive mods are made of aluminum (none of them I ever had) so the "insult" (if you consider it like this) wouldn't concern only SB but all of them.
4) I may not know that much about electricity (did I claim so?) but 18650 wouldn't provide more voltage than the 14500. The two batteries differ at the capacity level which wouldn't effect my "experiment" especially if 14500 is freshly charged.

Sounded to me like you came here with the sole intention of bashing my device.... I don't recall you asking for help. Its not about the voltage, its about the AMPS. You should take a step back and read your original post.

 

[5th Element]

Sounded to me like you came here with the sole intention of bashing my device.... I don't recall you asking for help. Its not about the voltage, its about the AMPS. You should take a step back and read your original post.

how can anybody bash the silver bullet?? its pretty much amazing!

 

[marbass]

Yes Chad I did read my initial post and I still can't find anything wrong with it.
Anyway.
If I got it right, you claim that SB requires more AMPS. Is that right? Why?
What's the difference between the SB and my homemade mod (except the looks and the build quality of course)? Nothing. They are both battery tubes that provide electricity to the atomizer. No circuits, no complicated electronics or anything else involved. So, why would the same atomizer and the same battery perform differently in the two mods?

 

[cddz]

Yes Chad I did read my initial post and I still can't find anything wrong with it.
Anyway.
If I got it right, you claim that SB requires more AMPS. Is that right? Why?
What's the difference between the SB and my homemade mod (except the looks and the build quality of course)? Nothing. They are both battery tubes that provide electricity to the atomizer. No circuits, no complicated electronics or anything else involved. So, why would the same atomizer and the same battery perform differently in the two mods?

You have it wrong, I made no claim that the SB requires more amps to operate. If that were the case, all mods would be made from copper. The size of the conductor negates that. Contact resistance is your problem. As I said, wait for the 18650 batteries. If you want to try the 14500 use it the BB, another aluminum PV.

 

[marbass]

OK I'll wait for the 18650 (I can't do otherwise anyway) but then again I'll have nothing to compare it with and I'll have to take it for granted what ever the result is.

 

[crashtestjeep]

Thanks Crash... I have T-Tips (they are awesome!)... so you ONLY drip at 6v? I thought you had another cart filler for 6v. Guess my next step is HV attys, ordered some last night from Eastmall, great price at 3 for $18!

HV attys are okay w 2 3.7v batts but 4-5 drops in the ttip and dripping becomes a very tasty vape on the SB at 6v

Ive found the SB really shines at 6v, IMO and the dripping keeps the burnt taste away.

It took me a few to "get" dripping but Ill tell ya, now that my learning curve has ended I REALLY LOVE 6V!!!

 

[Spiker]

Thanks Crash! Can't wait to try the HV attys, and the SB is the BEST for dripping! Now I'll get out of the way and let Chad and marbass have some sparring room...

 

[marbass]

You have it wrong, I made no claim that the SB requires more amps to operate. If that were the case, all mods would be made from copper. The size of the conductor negates that. Contact resistance is your problem. As I said, wait for the 18650 batteries. If you want to try the 14500 use it the BB, another aluminum PV.

I got my 18650s 2 days ago.
There's no improvement in SB's performance. Compared to my simple copper mod using a 14500, still produces significantly less vapor. It's not as warm either and the flavor is less too. I have to press the button of the SB twice as much as my mod's to have the same results. Also, If my atty is a little bit flooded, it take much longer to evaporate excess juice and start to produce normal vapor again.
I'm definitely convinced that it has somehow to do with the flow of the current.
I removed the bottom part of the body, kept the positive pole of the battery in contact with the switch (just like where it should be) and connected the negative battery pole through a wire with the outer part of the top-switch. Pressed the button and it really worked MUCH better, as if there was no obstacle anymore to the current's flow.
Please Chad let me know how to overcome the problem. There's nothing else I can think of!
If I'm right and there's a voltage drop in it, I'm sure the SB would be fine as a 6V PV and it must be very close to the 5V sweet spot, but I bought it for its autonomy at 3.7v option (with the 18650).

 

[cddz]

I got my 18650s 2 days ago.
There's no improvement in SB's performance. Compared to my simple copper mod using a 14500, still produces significantly less vapor. It's not as warm either and the flavor is less too. I have to press the button of the SB twice as much as my mod's to have the same results. Also, If my atty is a little bit flooded, it take much longer to evaporate excess juice and start to produce normal vapor again.
I'm definitely convinced that it has somehow to do with the flow of the current.
I removed the bottom part of the body, kept the positive pole of the battery in contact with the switch (just like where it should be) and connected the negative battery pole through a wire with the outer part of the top-switch. Pressed the button and it really worked MUCH better, as if there was no obstacle anymore to the current's flow.
Please Chad let me know how to overcome the problem. There's nothing else I can think of!
If I'm right and there's a voltage drop in it, I'm sure the SB would be fine as a 6V PV and it must be very close to the 5V sweet spot, but I bought it for its autonomy at 3.7v option (with the 18650).

Did you get an original SB or a black one?

 

[marbass]

SB original (silver)

 

[cddz]

SB original (silver)

Remove and clean the bottom of the lower spring with 1000grit paper. The problem you are having sounds more like a poor connection at the spring. I am unsure how the spring could have oxidized. I tried the "wire" thing with no difference what soever. Remember the top is made from the same material as the bottom
Chad

 

[marbass]

Thanks Chad but that was my first thought too and I've already tried it.
No improvement.
Spring was/is free of oxidation, too.