Smaller Size VV/VW Devices Recommendation

[Neezy206]

Ooo I like that a lot!! Where do I find out how much it is and where can I buy one??

 

[Neezy206]

lol no wonder I love it... I have caviar taste. I think I found where to buy one, but he only has the large available and its $534. Way way way out of my price range lol

Wizard EVOLVED

 

[rawr]

FIRST LOOK: Wizard Evolved DNA20 Tube Mod - YouTube

400 eur OUCH

Made by Apple? joke aside, ios is fantastic os.

 

[ericsp]

I have the Itaste V3 and love it, works great. A similar mod, a cube Rider Robust from the classies that I like so much I just bought a second, hot pink one - found it on sale here L-Rider Robust A. Robust is about 1/4" wider and maybe 1/2" taller than the Itaste but it uses 14500 batteries, so hopefully it will last longer than my Itaste which will just be gone when the battery finally goes. Do need to buy a 510/ego connector on the Robust for my Kanger stuff on top, but those are cheap.

Now I know it got a bum review from some online, but for the way I vape Robust is perfect. Good size, battery lasts me all day pretty much (I don't chain vape) and it looks good with Evods and Protanks. Just throwin' out another option.

Why did the L-Rider Robust A get bad reviews? It actually small enough and looks versatile. Plus it has more options then my Ego T .

 

[Ian Reese McDonald]

i have a Kgo VV. its nice. lcd display. nice clicky buttons!

 

[ericsp]

Whats the main difference between the iTaste VV V3 and the Kgo VV?

 

[tearose50]

The iTaste is cuter? It's newer. It's Innokin brand. The III has both VV and VW features. It charges via USB. There very well could be more.

A good way to find out is watch PBusardo's video reviews on each device.

I found this video on the L Rider. If you start at about 12 minutes in, you will see him talk about it's voltage regulation abilities not being so good. A PBusardo Review - L Rider Robust and EZ Turbo Winner - YouTube

 

[Baditude]

Why did the L-Rider Robust A get bad reviews? It actually small enough and looks versatile. Plus it has more options then my Ego T .

Essentially the reviewers were down on a 14500 battery being unable to perform like a 18350 or larger battery in a regulated device, was the gist that I got. PBusardo got only 4 hours use per battery. Voltage regulation was wanting, too.

If you got a Robust and only used a voltage range of 3.5 to 4.0 volts, and maybe would go up to 4.5 volts occassionally with a standard or high resistance atty, it might be a fine mod for you.....as long as you are willing to accept the limits of the 14500 battery's capacity. If you vape exclusively above 4.0 volts the Robust wouldn't be for you. The Robust was reviewed using up to 5 - 6 volts and it failed pretty miserably in this area.

I actually looked into purchasing one of these for out & about use, but after the dismal reviews I ended up getting a Smoktech VV Gripper and later a Segelei V8 box mod instead. Not totally satisfied with those, I ended up getting a Mini Provari.

So knowing its limitations and your own expectations, the L Rider Robust could be a decent mod for certain situations. But for the money ($50), a mod with a bigger battery or even a higher mAh eGo Twist would perform much better.

 

[jazzelwood]

Thanks everyone I just ordered the Innokin Itaste v3 from all of your suggestions! I started with a rechargeable ecigs from my smoke shop -

 

[jazzelwood]

I saw so many videos and someone suggested or mentioned that there really needs to be a sort of starting point beyond smoke shop ecigs. So many online ecigs that are new and, well its just so overwhelming, most are not compatible etc....it's so HARD to CHOOSE.

 

[timbit]

Might I suggest the 110mAh Ego LCD Pass Through? It's only variable voltage but it's the size of the typical EGo Twist... The nice thing is besides being a pass through (which in my opinion they all should be), it has an LCD, buttons for adjusting instead of a dial, far more features (then the twist), it's voltage goes up to 6V (compared to the Twist's 4.2 V, I think)...

You can get it from canvape for about $25 (I don't know about the USA stores or prices). I've got one on it's way right now & I have a feeling I'll be A) very happy with it & B) buying some more...

Adam

Seriously though, why don't they make all devices with pass throughs? I can't think of a single con to them...

 

[cat58]

Essentially the reviewers were down on a 14500 battery being unable to perform like a 18350 or larger battery in a regulated device, was the gist that I got. PBusardo got only 4 hours use per battery. Voltage regulation was wanting, too.

If you got a Robust and only used a voltage range of 3.5 to 4.0 volts, and maybe would go up to 4.5 volts occassionally with a standard or high resistance atty, it might be a fine mod for you.....as long as you are willing to accept the limits of the 14500 battery's capacity. If you vape exclusively above 4.0 volts the Robust wouldn't be for you. The Robust was reviewed using up to 5 - 6 volts and it failed pretty miserably in this area.

I actually looked into purchasing one of these for out & about use, but after the dismal reviews I ended up getting a Smoktech VV Gripper and later a Segelei V8 box mod instead. Not totally satisfied with those, I ended up getting a Mini Provari.

So knowing its limitations and your own expectations, the L Rider Robust could be a decent mod for certain situations. But for the money ($50), a mod with a bigger battery or even a higher mAh eGo Twist would perform much better.

I would never argue with Baditude because he knows waaaaay more than I do, and that's a fact.

I will only say that for someone like me, the little Robusts that I have (and I liked the first one so much I bought another, found it on sale for under $30) works just great. My weenieness is evident - I use Evods, Protanks and now a MiniProtank with 2.2 coils, never go over 3.8/3.9 volts as things start tasting bad higher than that (to me - told ya, weenie!) Using 700 mah Efest batteries, the thing lasts almost all day for me before I need to swap bats, call it 8/9 hours. I can 'taste' the battery going down then and switch it out.

Obviously as Mr. Baditude pointed out, up the volts and lower the resistance and it all changes. It's just a 14500 after all. But I like it. Not trying to start an argument just pointing out for someone who vapes like me, it's not a bad choice if you can find it on sale.

 

[Racehorse]

Essentially the reviewers were down on a 14500 battery being unable to perform like a 18350 or larger battery in a regulated device, was the gist that I got. PBusardo got only 4 hours use per battery. Voltage regulation was wanting, too.

Well you know I really love the Robust.......pbusardo literally "killed" sales on this, too bad IMHO.

For those of us who LIKE 14500 devices, we're fullly aware of "what to expect from a 14500 battery". Asking it to also do VV perhaps is not enough for many vapers.......but for those of us who LOVE 14500 for the size the Robust is great!

Hey, I don't take readings on my voltage regulations. I use 3 or 4 different 14500 devices, true, none are 18650 mods, and that is fine with me. I love love love the size .

Robust, give a gerat vape, with short battery life. Well, so does an Ego VV. I just wanted something where I could carry batts around.......you know there really AREN'T that many 14500 devices anyway. I've had the vmod2.0, the REO mini, the Robust, and many ego both VV and non VV......and also the baby bullet. Oh, and a little 14500 3.7 box mod from Madvapes.

To be honest, I'll keep the Robuust, just that I liked the round one, not the square one. It is way hard to find this form factor in a VV.

i DIDN'T EXPECT MORE FROM IT THAN I GOT......BUT I LOVE WHAT I GOT!


There were a FEW other vv 14500 devices but they are all baton=like, The robust is totally small, for what it does there isn't anything else that I know of that has this size.......and it's $30. on sale (thanks mr. busardo,your bad review has made them clearance items!)


next on my list to try: The EGO RS.


People have the same complaint about the 14500 REO.....the drop off in voltage of a 14500 is rather quick, but again, the mini stuff has it's place.

 

[peraspera]

The yet to be released Innokin VV/VW VTR is a compact design that uses a replaceable 18650 battery. The juice delivery device cubbyhole should make it very pocket friendly. It should solve the issue of tanks snapping off in pockets.

The UK Ecig Store is taking pre-orders for mid-September delivery.

 

[timbit]

Oppsy, I just saw that I made a mistake on the amperage of the EGo Variable Voltage LCD 1100mAh Pass Through.

It's not 110mAh...

It is 1100mAh...

Quite respectable & with the pass through, it's effectively limitless!!!

I can't wait for mine to get here...

Fasttech has them for $18 here $17.93 EGO-VV 1100mAh Rechargeable Variable Voltage E-Cigarette Battery with 0.7" LCD - silver at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

That site has all the measurements as well. It ranges from 3.0V~6.0V & even counts your puffs (though for the life of me I can't figure what the point of that feature is. The twist only goes from 3.2V~4.8V.

Everything the twist can do the variable voltage LCD can do better, easier...

It's roughly the same size but you get an extra 100mAh & the pass through...

The twist you must twist a dial & squint to see the tiny numbers & have less voltage control (in both directions)... The LCD you press1 of 2 buttons, read a LCD screen that has all the info you beef (plus some) & has nearly the range of the most popular APVs.

They are both roughly the same size, price, etc...

What am I missing? Why would anyone choose the twist over the LCD?

Adam

 

[stillnotsmoking]

Itaste vv v3, l rider robust 14500 and the kamry ecab v2 come to mind

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[jazzelwood]

The yet to be released Innokin VV/VW VTR is a compact design that uses a replaceable 18650 battery. The juice delivery device cubbyhole should make it very pocket friendly. It should solve the issue of tanks snapping off in pockets.

The UK Ecig Store is taking pre-orders for mid-September delivery.

Very Nice but not quite small

 

[Baditude]

I would never argue with Baditude because he knows waaaaay more than I do, and that's a fact...Obviously as Mr. Baditude pointed out, up the volts and lower the resistance and it all changes. It's just a 14500 after all. But I like it. Not trying to start an argument just pointing out for someone who vapes like me, it's not a bad choice if you can find it on sale

Well you know I really love the Robust.......pbusardo literally "killed" sales on this, too bad IMHO...For those of us who LIKE 14500 devices, we're fullly aware of "what to expect from a 14500 battery". Asking it to also do VV perhaps is not enough for many vapers.......but for those of us who LOVE 14500 for the size the Robust is great!i DIDN'T EXPECT MORE FROM IT THAN I GOT......BUT I LOVE WHAT I GOT!

Essentially the reviewers were down on a 14500 battery being unable to perform like a 18350 or larger battery in a regulated device, was the gist that I got. PBusardo got only 4 hours use per battery. Voltage regulation was wanting, too.

If you got a Robust and only used a voltage range of 3.5 to 4.0 volts, and maybe would go up to 4.5 volts occassionally with a standard or high resistance atty, it might be a fine mod for you.....as long as you are willing to accept the limits of the 14500 battery's capacity. If you vape exclusively above 4.0 volts the Robust wouldn't be for you. The Robust was reviewed using up to 5 - 6 volts and it failed pretty miserably in this area.

I actually looked into purchasing one of these for out & about use, but after the dismal reviews I ended up getting a Smoktech VV Gripper and later a Segelei V8 box mod instead. Not totally satisfied with those, I ended up getting a Mini Provari.

So knowing its limitations and your own expectations, the L Rider Robust could be a decent mod for certain situations. But for the money ($50), a mod with a bigger battery or even a higher mAh eGo Twist would perform much better.

Hey, don't shoot the messenger. I only answered a question about why the Robust got bad reviews.

I did point out in my comment, for someone who is aware of the Robust's limitations, it can still be a decent mod. I was just THIS CLOSE to buying one myself, but as Racehorse alluded to, I let PBusardo's review influence my decision. When it first came on the market, there was a relatively long thread here on ECF about the Robust. Gotta say that most owners were disappointed in it. I still say it's the battery and not the mod to blame; a 14500 battery is going to struggle to perform like an 18350 battery trying to regulate a variable voltage processor.

I rarely vape over 4.5 volts ever. I use standard/high resistance cartomizers. In hindsight, with the way I vape, the Robust might have been an ideal out & about or car vape, which was what I was looking for at the time. I'm happy that those who have one love their Robust.

 

[Neezy206]

The yet to be released Innokin VV/VW VTR is a compact design that uses a replaceable 18650 battery. The juice delivery device cubbyhole should make it very pocket friendly. It should solve the issue of tanks snapping off in pockets.

The UK Ecig Store is taking pre-orders for mid-September delivery.

I like this!! Whats a good size comparison for it??

 

[cat58]

Hey, don't shoot the messenger. I only answered a question about why the Robust got bad reviews.

I did point out in my comment, for someone who is aware of the Robust's limitations, it can still be a decent mod. I was just this close to buying one myself, but as Racehorse alluded to, I let PBusardo's review influence my decision. When it first came on the market, there was a relatively long thread here on ECF about the Robust. Gotta say that most owners were disappointed in it. I still say it's the battery and not the mod to blame; a 14500 battery is going to struggle to perform like an 18350 battery trying to regulate a variable voltage processor.

I rarely vape over 4.5 volts ever. I use standard/high resistance cartomizers. In hindsight, with the way I vape, the Robust might have been an ideal out & about or car vape, which was what I was looking for at the time. I'm happy that those who have one love their Robust.

Hugs Baditude <<<<Bad>>>> I am still learning the ways of the Force, Obi-Wan. I just had to stand up for my little mod.

Edit to add in shock: When I turn into a Senior Member?? I'm still a Padawan Learner. We really need to fix that........