This is going to be my last post on the subject. John, I've never attacked or harassed you, despite your howls to the contrary. I also never intended for this to be some pissing match. For Freddie, who seems to think this is about the relative benefits of one PV over another, it's not. It's about the suitability, or lack thereof, of one device for a particular person. I don't for a second doubt that the Vmax is a great PV and I never implied anything else.
I'm also not doubting your intentions in the least, John. That's not the issue here at all. I think what you're not considering is that, although you are trying to give people as much useful information as you can, it's far in excess of what some people want, asked for or more importantly, are prepared or willing to tackle. Someone who titles a thread "Too much info" is crying out for a simplified solution, not a technical treatise, no matter how thoughtfully constructed or simplified. They are so desperate for simplicity that they find the Volt an appealing option. Just to get them to seriously consider the relative benefits of something like a *Go is a considerable challenge because, true or not, they see a big battery mod as inherently confusing and are likely to throw up a mental block that is difficult to overcome. If you doubt that, re-read Digger's post where he expresses exactly those beliefs. And Digger appears to be way ahead of the person who wrote the "Too much info" post.
That little e-cig primer you wrote was fine. It would make a good response for anyone who expressed an interest in an easy explanation of a technical subject. But regardless of it's technical merits, it's will go unread and unappreciated by someone who is paralyzed by information overload to the point where they're ready to pick up a pack of e-cigs at the gas station.
I never said you cut and pasted anything. I meant the word "can" as in "could", not "did". Of course you didn't cut and paste your original recommendation. What I said was that in the future you can just C&P, because you are convinced that the Vmax is a one-size-fits-all APV, regardless of any factors or concerns expressed by the OP. All anyone has to do is read your explanation of how e-cigs work and they'll see the light.
Well, John, I'm sorry. It doesn't work that way. That's not human nature and the success of companies like Blu and Volt provide all the proof you need of what I'm saying. You might know technical subjects, but you're missing the mark if you think people like Digger and the "Too much info" poster are going to abandon their simplified e-cigs after reading and understanding what you've written. It's not a matter of the subject matter being too difficult, it's a matter of they're not interested at this point in time. I know it's frustrating. It makes you feel unappreciated and maligned. But think how unappreciated all the people who try to steer someone away from a Volt or a V2 feel when someone comes in and carpet bombs a thread, resulting in the OP retreating back to their oversimplified first impression and ending the thread with "I'm getting a volt". I will virtually guarantee you that the "Too much info" poster will not, and did not, read your e-cig primer. They backed off, retreated in confusion and likely will buy the Volt or, worse yet, forgot the whole idea. That's just the way people are and all your good intentions won't change it.
I believe that. If you can recommend a Vmax to a stone newbie who clearly expressed a desire for the simplest e-cig possible and the least amount of technical jagon possible, you'll recommend it to anyone.
Based on what you know now. What you know now. Not what you knew then. Not what you, let alone the less technically oriented, knew when you didn't know a carto from a cantaloupe.
Some people want to learn as much as possible before they start and they want to jump in with both feet. They are technically inclined and willing to devote a considerable amount of time before beginning. You and I are like that. Some people are not. They are not interested and/or capable. They are not willing or capable to absorb vast amounts of information before they make the switch to e-cigs. I would hope that you could acknowledge that fact and realize not everyone is like you and me. You can often tell the difference by what they say in their threads. A thread titled "Too much info." provides a clue that this person is not particularly interested in learning a lot of technical details, no matter how well presented.
We need to not forget the objective. It isn't to turn newbies on to the best vaping experience possible and the best design possible. The objective is to introduce them to something that they'll be comfortable with actually getting and using and that will perform well enough that they'll abandon the ciggies. It does not good to educate them to the point that they're paralyzed by information and spend the next year searching for the ultimate PV as they continue to smoke. In our enthusiasm and good intentions, we should not lose sight of that. What's the old saw? Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
I used the term butthurt as shorthand for "unappreciated and maligned", which you have complained that you feel. That's all.
I fully acknowledge the Vmax is far superior to the e-Power or any *Go device. In fact, just last night I recommended a Vmax to someone who was interested in a VV. So it's not "my" e-Power". I don't even own one. I don't always recommend one. When I do, it's because of the large numbers of newbs (including yourself) that device has satisfied. Sometimes I'll recommend a kGo, sometimes a LT, sometimes something else including a Volt or Bloog or Provari, and even a Vmax. Because I read what people write. I ask questions. I try to gauge their needs and desires and, half the time, it's a win just to keep them away from a ciggy looking thing with a light on the end. Unlike you, I'm not convinced that everyone needs simply to read my well thought out e-cig primer and they will see the light and become instantly comfortable with the most advanced PV on the market. Maybe if they did read and understand, some would. But many, probably most, of them won't and it's not that hard to tell who they are. They're just not interested, no matter how well it might serve them. That's a fact. There's nothing you or I can do about it and we end up doing more harm than good by forcing the issue.
Look at Digger's post again. How successful do you think you'd have been had he asked for a recommendation and you hit him with that wall of text?
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