Smoking Ban Effects

[Petrodus]

Smoking Ban Effects

Times are changing and good to see e-cigs mentioned
without seeing all the FDA and ANTZ garbage in print.

The reality is E-cigs are No Big Scary Deal ...
just a safe alternative (unless ya want to split hairs)

The general public at large will ignore or find a work around
to silly Nanny State laws.

Go ahead and have laws and ordinances prohibiting
talking on the phone while driving ... Ain't going to
do any good ... Ring Ring ... "HI"

Americans today have a lot more to worry about than
smokers choosing a safer alternative.

 

[Vocalek]

If the writer didn't catch this usage error, the editor surely should have.

Many bars say the smoking ban has not effected their business

"Effect" can only be used as a verb when it means the same thing as "implement". Example: They decided that it was time to effect a change.

In most cases, "effect" (spelled with an "e") is used as a noun. Example: We wondered what effect this would have on our business.

The proper word to use in this case would be "affected". "Affect" (spelled with an "a") means to influence.

Grammar Girl : Affect Versus Effect :: Quick and Dirty Tips ™

 

[Spazmelda]

Effect/affect is one of my peeves. I haven't read the article yet.

 

[mwplefty]

Smoking Ban Effects

Times are changing and good to see e-cigs mentioned
without seeing all the FDA and ANTZ garbage in print.

The reality is E-cigs are No Big Scary Deal ...
just a safe alternative (unless ya want to split hairs)

The general public at large will ignore or find a work around
to silly Nanny State laws.

Go ahead and have laws and ordinances prohibiting
talking on the phone while driving ... Ain't going to
do any good ... Ring Ring ... "HI"

Americans today have a lot more to worry about than
smokers choosing a safer alternative.

I can definitely see in the future if more anti-vaping ordinances/laws are passed, vapers will just ignore them and indoor workplaces will not care either.

 

[dagnagan]

Here's another effect of smoking bans, in a story about crime in a popular entertainment district in Columbia, SC:

A tipping point

When Strange was attacked, Five Points merchants and visitors for more than two years had been warning police and council that trouble was brewing.

The problems started in 2008 when the city instituted a smoking ban, said Merritt McHaffie, the Five Points Association executive director. People began filling the sidewalks outside bars, creating a party atmosphere on the streets.

Pretty soon, Five Points had become a popular hangout for underage teens, who were traveling from as far away as Orangeburg and Winnsboro, McHaffie said.

Read more here: Violent crime down in Five Points - Local / Metro - TheState.com

 

[Petrodus]

There was a time when everyone thought the world was flat.

There was a time when many believed the anti e-cig propaganda.

Knock-knock ... Times are changing...and changing fast.


My personal goal was not to knock myself out trying to educate
those opposed to e-cigs that the propaganda they heard were lies ...
but to introduce e-smoking to smokers.

E-smokers will educate non-smokers and there is a tipping point
when a high percent of smokers are converted. It is impossible
to keep the truth that vaping is safe hidden from the public.

 

[DaveP]

Just like kids, we all want alternatives. "You can do this, but not that" gives us an out and we are happy. Everyone knows that tobacco is addictive and destructive to health. Nicotine may not be the best habit we could pursue, but its use in ecigs satisfies the habit without the destructive consequences.

I think municipalities need to educate themselves and explore the alternatives. The electronic cigarette offers a safer alternative to tobacco and once adopted as acceptable, it will eventually replace cigarettes. I think Lorillard realized that when they bought Blu. Banning electronic cigarettes in public places only serves to create more offenders among the ranks of smokers and converts to ecigs.

A constructive approach to the problem would be for the industry to conduct widespread testing and publish the results. A couple of days ago when the UK bus incident hit the news, my local CBS affiliate included a followup story that quoted the FDA's 2009 test result that emphasized the finding of carcinogens and a component of antifreeze in a sample of ejuice. I went ballistic for a moment when I heard that. People have quoted that finding each time I've had a conversation about my ecig and I have to explain how it came about.

I'm so tired of explaining that the test found 8ng/dl carcinogens (the same amount in Nicorette gum) and trace amounts of diethylene glycol in a single sample. It was a excepted in the first case and a fluke in the other. So what? Roach parts have been found in fast foods and all sorts of dangerous chemicals and pesticides are found in the foods we eat daily. Want to talk about that? No? We want safe and clean ejuice and proven safety in our ecigs. Public acceptance of ecigs is the key to eradicating tobacco. Education is the way to achieve that. We need to make that happen through honest, accurate, informative testing and prolific press releases.

 

[FishingBuffalo]

So what? Roach parts have been found in fast foods and all sorts of dangerous chemicals and pesticides are found in the foods we eat daily.

I have heard the coffee companies have specifications on how much rat/mouse feces it can have in it.

 

[Petrodus]

I can definitely see in the future if more anti-vaping ordinances/laws are passed, vapers will just ignore them and indoor workplaces will not care either.

EXACTLY ...
Reminds me of an amusing thing that happened at the company
I worked for prior to retiring.

The company always had a business dress code ...
For guys it meant dress shirt and ties.
For ladies "Appropriate" business attire.

The company got so frustrated with most women showing
up for work wearing whatever they wanted including flip-flops ...
They rolled out a policy that all the women had to wear uniform
standard attire.

The women laughed and said ...
"Yeah, and like that's going to happen"

The policy was dropped ...
Actually, all conversation on the subject was dropped.