Smoking to vaping transition...

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I think the type of smoker you were plays a big part-- how long and how much you smoked. I was a 15-lite cig-a-day (just under a pack) smoker, and smoked for about 12 years. I quit the day after my kit arrived and was charged (9/12/2010). It was easy for me: I had no cravings for a cig and still don't.

The biggest difference I noticed was I was chain vaping, where as I wasn't a chain smoker. I smoked one cig about every two to three hours. I found out this was partly because my body was craving some of the other addictive chemicals in cigs that aren't in e-cigs; and partly it was because I needed to raise my juice's nic levels (I went with "light" levels (11mg/ml) because that was what I smoked.) I found that for me 24mg allowed me to go back to a schedule I was more used to. I'm now vaping four or five drags every hour-- which is close to what I was doing in analogs: 8 puffs of a cig every two hours or so.

I also think the higher your OCD level, the harder it will be. The vaping “ritual” is very close to the smoking ritual, but not exactly the same: no lighters; drag is way different; no head rush on first hit; etc. If you are a hardcore OCD, you will probably have trouble with the small differences in the ritual. I noticed the differences, but they didn’t bother me.

I plan to lower the nic levels later and eventually quit, but not because I don't want to be "hooked on nicotine" (I personally don't see anything wrong with nicotine; in my opinion, it's up there with caffeine as a drug: in moderation, it is a safe, feel-good drug people like); I'm going to quit because I don't want to get stuck in the lurch if my stupid on-the-take government decides to ban e-cigs (or, almost as worst, figure out a way to tax the crap out of it to make up for all the money it's going to lose as people start quitting tobacco).

I do think it will be much easier to quit e-cigs than analogs: I've already noticed that if I get stuck in a situation where I can't vape for three or four hours, I don't get that uncontrollable how-do-I-get-out-of-here anxiety I used to get as a smoker; Instead, I find it's much easier to occupy myself and put the craving out of my mind.
Very interesting points, and I really think you have something there.
I also think that there is a very big tendency for smokers to have a good deal of OCD tendencies.

Check out this poll, for instance...
Do you think you might have some OCD tendencies?


The only thing I miss from analog smoking is the convenience. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise: No matter what electronic system you go with, it's going to require way more "work" to keep yourself vaping from day-to-day. Cigs were easy: your only worry was having a way to light it. If you got stuck with no cigs and/or no lighter, a store or a good samaritan was always nearby to help you out. Not with vaping.
While in general I think you are correct, I might wish to disgree with this part...

I have a battery that lasts three days on one charge.
I have a drip tip and I carry two 3ml bottles of two different flavors with me.

When I want a smoke, I take out a bottle, open it, and drip 3 drops on my atomizer.

This is no more trouble than taking out a pack of smokes, taking one out, getting a lighter, and lighting the smoke.
And that is when there is no wind to mess you up!!

As long as you have plenty of supplies, you can definitely reach the point where electronic cigarettes are more convenient than smoking.
And that is not even taking into account things like doing it anywhere, not worrying about ashtrays, and an entire list of other things.

But for newbies who haven't hit their stride yet, sure, it is almost surely more hassle.
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2.5 packs a day for 15 years and it took me less than a week to quit.

I can say this... those who say the right hardware/liquid is the key are 100% correct. The only reason I didn't quit on day 1 was that I jumped in a bit too quick without doing the research.

Even though you may end up wasting a little money, buy more than you need. Buy cartos and atomizers/cartridges. You won't know which you prefer until you try them both. Make sure you buy at least 2 batteries and an extra charger so you can keep one with you. The last thing you want is to fail because of dead batteries. Don't be afraid to try different kinds of liquid and different flavors. Don't just assume that because you smoke a particular brand of cig that you will like the e-cig "version". Try a few "sweet" flavors, as well as some "tobacco" flavors. You'll surly find ones you like.
 

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Good read.

I definitely should be more careful with the term OCD. I was using it loosely to refer to a person’s desire to perform a ritual and the comfort it brings. If that can be referred to as a compulsion, then I think everyone has some level of compulsion in them (we are “creatures of habit”). But by throwing in the words obsessive and disorder, I implied a problem. If your compulsion for a ritual becomes obsessive, then it’s a disorder—I guess. So, maybe I should have said:

I also think the higher your compulsion level, the harder it will be. The vaping “ritual” is very close to the smoking ritual, but not exactly the same: no lighters; drag is way different; no head rush on first hit; etc. If you are only mildly compulsive, the change will not be hard; but if you are strongly compulsive or have some level of OCD, you will probably have trouble with the small differences in the ritual. I noticed the differences, but they didn’t bother me.

I honestly think I’m more addicted to the “smoking ritual” than the nicotine. “Smoking” gives me something to do. I enjoy puffing on a cig while drinking a cup of coffee, reading the paper, or while hanging out on a break. Luckily for me, I’m not “obsessed” with the details of the ritual, so I don’t mind the differences between smoking and vaping.
 

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It didn't take me all that long to stop smoking, once I found the right combination of hardware and juice. I have a half pack of cigs on my dining table where I read the paper and eat most meals. I haven't touched it in a week. It's sitting right there with a lighter, ready for me to grab one and light up... but I don't have the desire. I prefer my Joye 510. It's cleaner, it tastes better, and I don't have a smelly ashtray sitting beside my food anymore! My wife still smokes occasionally, but she doesn't smoke around me anymore because it stinks to me now. It's shocking how fast your senses of smell and taste start coming back when you stop smoking. And I'm not coughing up mucus constantly. In fact, when I cough, there's rarely anything wet coming up. I can already tell I have more lung capacity, which is stunning at my age, 59. I've been smoking since 1965, that's 45 years of inhaling burning tobacco. I get my nicotine from my PV, and that's plenty!

My advice to those trying to quit... JUST DO IT! When you get that urge to smoke, grab your e-cig, or chew some gum. Once you make the transition, it's a wonderful thing!!
 

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I've had a vaporizer for a week and immediately dropped from a pack a day or more down to three or so without effort or struggle. It's impressive to me because I didn't intend to quit analogs at all, I only wanted something I could smoke indoors while doing schoolwork. The only strong analog cravings I get now are first thing in the morning and at night before bed, and even those are beginning to feel empty.
 

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I didn't intend on quitting smoking. I worked at a place where the breaks were 2 to 3 hours apart. The nic fits were getting the best of me so I bought into the e cigs to sneak into the bathroom and grab a quick fix. So I got some 36 mg menthol. I figured that 3 or 4 or 5 hits of 36 would hold me over till the next break. That stuff gave me a nicotine headache on the weekends, but for a quick sneak into the bathroom it worked. my brain liked it and the juice taste better than the cheap crap that I was smoking (2 1/2 packs per day for almost 40 years) I had tried to quit so many times that I quit quitting years ago. Every time I would try to quit and fold like a house of cards I felt like a failure. so I declared that I was never going to quit. The 3rd day I only smoked 3 then 2 the next day and none after that. that was 3 months ago and I had NO withdrawals at all. My next order was 24mg then 18 and now I cut the 18 down 20% with VG so I guess that would be somewhere around 14. However at this level my wife switched off the analogs and she did have some issues (mean and grumpy) . It was not so easy for her but she is back to normal now (3 weeks). So I think that the way to go is to go with high levels so that your brain will like it better.
 

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Ok, what do you have that lasts that long on a charge??? Would it work with work with the Joye 510 "supplies" that I have?
I use my Chucks which run on the 18650 battery.
Those batteries lasts at least two days for most people, and easily last me for three days.

There are a lot of mods out there that use the 18650 battery though, not just the Chuck.
 
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