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wv2win

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Yeah I just got the Joye510. Last time I tried an ecig it was from a shopping mall, it nearly put me off them totally as being a con. But the Joye510 I bought seems fine and much cheaper.

I'm very new to this so still smoking analogues, but good luck (and me too)

You just confirmed what I am saying. The RN4081 will drive more ex-smokers back to smoking that keep them off the analogs.

It's good to have variety and the 4081 is fine for some and I am fine with that. But I and many others have done side by side comparisons of the 4081 to a good mod, like the Prodigy, SB, chuck, etc as well as a regular 510 and it just does not provide the same good thoat hit, consistency and long battery life that these units do. And there are hundreds of posts on ECF that back up that point.

The one thing I will commend SE on is how they stood up to the FDA. They deserve praise for that even though it was in their own self-interest.

I think we should help those you have bought this device as much as we can to make it work better. But I think we are doing them a disservice if we infer that this device is just as good as any other and that "user error" is the problem. With my mod, I drip a couple of drops of liquid when it is needed and change the batteries every 5-8 hours and that is all I have to do to get consistently good flavor and throat hit. You cannot get close to that with an RN4081. I just DON'T like new vaporers to be confused that all PV's are the same, because there are ones that are significantly better.

Note: when someone says they are a heavy vaporer, we all really need to quantify that statement. I believe I am a heavy vaporer and on average, I take an inhale off my PV about 30 times an hour. If someone takes an inhale once or twice an hour, I personally don't think that qualifies as "heavy". If we all can do this quantification occassionally, then I think it will better help those who are new.
 
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cliff5550

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The RN4081 is a great little starter style and actually one that many continue to use. We started with the SmokeStik RN4081 and stayed on that for 5 months before going to M401 style and eventually the 510.
We'll never dis the RN4081. It was the RN4081 that had us off regular cigs the very first day it arrived in the mail.
 

jerrydon10

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There are a ton of 4081 fans in here. I'm not one of them. :)

One problem is the high learning curve with them: Primer puff, then exactly so many short puffs to get the max before the bat cuts you off--etc.

I pull out my 4081 stuff every few months and find that I "forgot" how to vape it.

Lola, you will love your ego. IMHO, you could not have bought a better model. I probably should sell my old 4081 stuff, I have a ton of it including an unopened starter kit. Twist my arm......:D
 

wv2win

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There are a ton of 4081 fans in here. I'm not one of them. :)

One problem is the high learning curve with them: Primer puff, then exactly so many short puffs to get the max before the bat cuts you off--etc.......:D

You said it right, jerry. Why anyone would enjoy going through all the 4081 "shenanigans" just to get an average puff is beyond me. No honest 4081 users can tell me that to get "great, consistent" throat hit on a 4081, all you have to do is take one puff, no primer puff, etc and it will provide that consistent great throat hit on 24mg liquid for 5-6 hours straight, no changing batteries and every puff exactly the same as the last. There are plently of PV's that can provide that level of performance, the 4081 isn't within a mile of that performance.
 

HotNostril

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It was also my first e-cig purchase....it worked because I quit and never smoked another cigarette. I waaay over paid for it. But I still paid FAR less than I have over the years buying and trying other stuff to quit....that never even came close to working for me! IMO It was a bargain. I am still thankful I found it and still use it from time to time.

But my current love is still the dse901 ...I have spare batteries, PCC, tons of atomisers, and two pass throughs so I don't waste batteries while driving or on the computer. It's just too darn easy to fill, consistent throat hit and tons of vapor. I have found the taste is far superior everything else I have bought and played with to date.
 

stover.p

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I got taken at the mall kiosks from Smoking Everywhere! I have a new 501 on the way and can't wait so I will be able to put analogs down 4-EVER! The SE model (can't say it sucks or blows because I get nodda out of it) was a lesson learned for me. Beware of carts in the mall............they're evil!

I can't wait to get a good TH on the 501 :)
 

Greg558

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I'm sorry you have had a bad experience in buying your first E-Cig.. but i am glad to hear your trying again and sticking with it.. I just started the other day as well, and i am fully enjoying it.. i got the Joye 510 from cignot.com. i ordered it on friday and it was in my mailbox Monday after i got home from work.. i have been smoke free since. I hope the eg0 unit you ordered works for you.. but even if it doesn't, don't give up.. everyone is different; one model that works for one person might not work for someone else (when i say work, i mean satisfactory purposes). I received a new E-cig today (a RN4081 model) and after trying it throughout the day, iv come to the conclusion that the RN4081 isn't the one for me. I'm Experimenting and have a few more different models on the way, but until i find (if i haven't found it already) that perfect model for me I'm going to stick with my Joye 510, I love the 510 and I'm not trying other models because im not satified with it, just mainly to see for myself if theres something better.... I have learned in a short period of time that what one needs to be successful in the E-cig lifestyle is 2 things... the right E-cig model, and the right E-Liquid/flavor... That being said, if that model and/or flavor dont work for you.. dont give up, just try something different..

Hope Everything works out for ya!! Keep us updated on your progress.. and feel free to ask any questions.. were all here to support one another...
 

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There are a ton of 4081 fans in here. I'm not one of them. :)

One problem is the high learning curve with them: Primer puff, then exactly so many short puffs to get the max before the bat cuts you off--etc.

I pull out my 4081 stuff every few months and find that I "forgot" how to vape it.

Lola, you will love your ego. IMHO, you could not have bought a better model. I probably should sell my old 4081 stuff, I have a ton of it including an unopened starter kit. Twist my arm......:D

Hey Jerry,

Can I twist your arm? How much do you want for your 4081 stuff? I'd like to help some friends who still smoke analogs to convert to vaping.

—SanjoSSe
 

Lola69

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Jerrydon10: Thanks for the words of support!! I have been vaping my eGo since it arrived a week ago monday and am thrilled to report that not only do I absolutely LOVE it, but I received the BEST service ever from Jack at Happy Vaper. Not only that, but I have not picked up an analog since I took my first eGo vape!! Actually, I lied lol......I did try smoking my last cigarette three days after vaping and got sick to my stomach on one inhale.......literally!! Vaping has changed my life for the better. If for nothing else, getting taken for a fool by buying a SE unit turned me onto vaping and off of cigarettes so it wasn't a complete waste! I can vape for 6-7 hours pretty much non-stop on the eGo before switching my battery. I also convinced my accountant to buy one as well and she too has been analog free after 45 years of smoking.

For the rest of the readers on here, thank you for this forum. I would never have been so turned onto vaping nor would I have been so informed by seasoned veterans whose advice is quite simply........priceless!!
 

Utzie

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I know how you feel, I got 2 SE Gold editions and both atomizers quit on us. I did get through to a rep with the live chat on their site. Apparently Smoking Everywhere is no longer in business. The person at this phone number is doing the support role for warranty claims. Good Luck, I haven't got the replacements yet, but I'm hoping. Call this number between 9am and 9pm EST for help. 1-800-539-6022 ext 206 Make sure you have your proof of purchase or you may be wasting your time.
 

FlyerTom

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(just sucks to have paid a high price for this lesson).
You and several thousand others, my wife and I included.
We bought two of those kits and the King of Prussia mall kiosk early last year, and were promptly disappointed in the performance. Since parts were only available at kiosks or online (at outrageous prices) I decided to cure my ignorance of the e-cig scene by thoroughly researching alternatives.
Our next purchase was a pair of 901 kits that really got me hooked on vaping. Unfortunately, my wife doesn't care for the whole business.
I've since expanded my equipment to a Silver Bullet with both 3.7 and 6 volt batteries, gobs of 501 and 901 carts, a 5v USB pass through, and now am into PTBs and Blue Foam and ZFM mods.
If you can give SE any credit at all, they at least introduced a lot of people to a better alternative.
 

frequentflyer

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I think I am on the band wagon with this. I went to a local mall to check out the SE kits. They were horrible tasting and really didn't work well in addition to being WAY overpriced. I bought a Joye 510 and love it. I would try to return it (can you dispute it on your credit card?) and get a Joye unit from a good place online. I got mine from perfectelectroniccigarette.com for about $75 with two batteries, two atties, a pack of carts and a large bottle of liquid. They even threw in a second bottle at that price as a thanks. I plan on using them again. Good luck & sorry to hear that you blew that much money on such garbage.
 

stover.p

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I took my SE back everyday since I bought it (Last Friday was purchase date). Today I received my new 501 from cignot. I wasn't thinking and didn't order any juice. So I packed up my SE in it's nice fancy black and gold box, took it to the kiosk (I made sure there were peope around looking) and got 2 big bottles of juice off the counter walked up to the "sales person" and said "I'm trading you this box for these 2 bottles of liquid"! She knew I was unhappy with the SE since she was the one that changed batteries, atomizers and cartridges trying to the piece of junk to work. She just kinda looked at me and said "ahhh OK". I still got ripped off but I have enough juice until my yummy flavors get here from cignot. STAY AWAY FROM THE KIOSK! lol
 
for any of the newbs trying to get a good kit to start...something that lasts...i just had the smoking everywhere (bought from the mall of course) and loved it till i went through 3 or 4 attys yes they said it had a lifetime warranty as long as i came back to that location...but i am in the army and am now in missouri and cant go back so i ordered a kit from vaporlites.com a great 510 kit comes with 2 batteries 2 attomizers 3 flavors of 10ml ejuice a pcc a usb, car, wall charger and 5 cartridges...amazing kit got last week and love it...they have online help and wonderful customer service look it up wont be dissapointed
 
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