Smoktech Telescope Mod

[mostapha]

His statement was a ridiculous over-generalization that was factually incorrect. Every part of it was wrong in Vancouver, and most of it was wrong in London for anything that I have details about. And I didn't feel like looking it up at 3am.

Also, I just did and the London Opening Ceremony uniforms were Ralph Lauren as well. And his high-end stuff is not made in China, which is what that was.

 

[zoiDman]

His statement was a ridiculous over-generalization that was factually incorrect. Every part of it was wrong in Vancouver, and most of it was wrong in London for anything that I have details about. And I didn't feel like looking it up at 3am.

Also, I just did and the London Opening Ceremony uniforms were Ralph Lauren as well. And his high-end stuff is not made in China, which is what that was.

I'm sorry if what I said was mis-leading. I was referring to the 2012 London Olympics.

Sorry for any Confusion.

'Made in China' Olympic Uniforms Are a Win for the U.S. - Businessweek

 

[mostapha]

Weird. I think it's more striking that an American icon isn't using his high-end stuff on the olympic team than them being chinese.

 

[zoiDman]

Weird. I think it's more striking that an American icon isn't using his high-end stuff on the olympic team than them being chinese.

Unfortunately, it Isn't about much of Anything Anymore but Money.

Or should I say, The Love of Money. And the Greed for More.

 

[Nurzrachit]

Businessweek should be discontinued as an american publication. These companies are owned by rich americans who have made their fortunes stepping on the backs of the lower and middle classes in this country. A win for the USA? What a crock of crap!

 

[zoiDman]

... A win for the USA? What a crock of crap!

I'm glad you posted that. Because there was sort of a Dual Reason for posting the this Particular Article.

One Was the to Clarify that many 2012 Olympic Uniforms were actually made in China.

And second to was to Point Out a Very Disturbing Mind Set. That an Entire Market like the Garment Industry can Collapse due to Foreign Imports but it is Somehow Good for America because there has been a Slight Increase in Selected, Upper End Jobs and Corporate Profits.

This is the Kind of Thinking that has lead to a 20 Year Decline in America.

 

[Nurzrachit]

Probably just as disturbing is a magazine such as this which portrays itself as neutral spewing this propaganda, attempting to make people believe the lies that rich corporate america is selling. The economy today is probably as bad if not worse than it was 5 years ago, but if you watch the news they say it is in a recovery process. Groceries have gone up 30%, gas OMG. I personally am still employed at the same job doing the same thing but my company has figured out a way to lower may pay by $6.50/hr. way off topic, sorry about the rant, just tired of someone pissing on my back while telling me it is raining.

 

[Adam the Aussie]

His statement was a ridiculous over-generalization that was factually incorrect.

It appears his ridiculous, factually incorrect over generalization has turned out to be... Correct!

 

[mostapha]

It appears his ridiculous, factually incorrect over generalization has turned out to be... Correct!

That part was correct and is slightly disturbing, but his statement was not completely correct. For the other examples I gave, the reason that the competitors use foreign stuff is because they need stuff that works in order to be competitive and Americans just don't make anything good.

I still think that if Americans made better products and had the ability to deliver them, people would buy them. It's not about price…it's about profit margin.

Americans don't see enough of a margin in making good products to do it on anything resembling a legitimate scale.

 

[Adam the Aussie]

That part was correct and is slightly disturbing, but his statement was not completely correct. For the other examples I gave, the reason that the competitors use foreign stuff is because they need stuff that works in order to be competitive and Americans just don't make anything good.

I still think that if Americans made better products and had the ability to deliver them, people would buy them. It's not about price…it's about profit margin.

Americans don't see enough of a margin in making good products to do it on anything resembling a legitimate scale.

Fair enough, we obviously read his statement differently. I read it as the USA olympic teams opening ceremony uniforms and a lot of the clothing they wore during competition were made in China. From the information supplied since, I see this statement as being 100% correct. I took this statement to refer to the current Olympics, not Beijing, Sydney, Vancouver or any other games. He also didn't mention equipment as being made in China, just clothing. I'm trying really hard to find anything incorrect about zoiDman's statement, but I can't.

 

[mostapha]

I interpreted it to include their equipment as well, so you're right.

As to my other point, it's amazing how specific you have to get to find something that Americans are actually really good at making today……that do it……on a large enough scale to matter. Except cars.

Cars are a really weird case. IDK if it's still true, but there was a time when the only pickup truck made in America (final assembly point) was the Toyota Tundra. My car (a BMW) was made (final assembly) in America. For years a lot of Ford, Chevy, GMC, etc. cars had to be shipped in from overseas because they didn't want to pay domestic labor.

But I'm kind of over it. Chinese products aren't crappy. I own a giant pile of them……lots of them have Apple logos on them, and they're the best-built computers I've ever used, serviced, or taken apart (which is not a short list). Heck, they're some of the best-made consumer electronics that I've ever taken apart in a lot of ways. My Epiphone Valve Jr. guitar amp had to be rebuilt twice to correct manufacturing defects……because the American I took it to was no better at soldering than the Chinese slaves.

You want good stuff, it's easy……just stop buying carp.

The one thing I don't understand is the drive to support the economy when the markets are closing this high and unemployment is still ridiculous; there's no excuse for that.

 

[Nurzrachit]

Mostapha you hit the nail on the head, profit margin. Levi's makes jeans overseas to clear an extra $1.00 per pair. There is a special place in hell. I do beleive that american craftsmanship is top notch, and this telescope if made in the USA would be much more appealing durability/safety wise. Unfortunately though, the ability to meet demand could not be met, because we are no longer set up as a mass producing nation. And if an American company had the capital to design and sell a product in large quantities like this they would probably move manufacturing overseas to make an extra buck! It's maddening. It is what it is. Make sure kids go to college, moral of the story, because the blue collar in this country has turned brown. I also agree with Adam the Aussie that Zoidman's statement appears to be fully factual. I'm just glad one American business no long receives my hard earned money...Big tobacco. Just let out a cloud of robbaco Caramel on my VIVI-Nova, at 4.2V with the fake Lava Tube...Delicious!

 

[mostapha]

Mostapha you hit the nail on the head, profit margin. Levi's makes jeans overseas to clear an extra $1.00 per pair. There is a special place in hell.

The funny thing is that my last pair of Chinese-made (or wherever) 501s has lasted significantly longer than my last pair of French-made APCs, which are designer copies of the original 501 pattern with very high quality denim made by a ....er who hates how jeans have changed and charges like $155 for a pair of jeans.

I do beleive that american craftsmanship is top notch, and this telescope if made in the USA would be much more appealing durability/safety wise. Unfortunately though, the ability to meet demand could not be met

They did that. It was called the Empire.

 

[Adam the Aussie]

Got my Telescope today, haven't had time to really put it through its paces, but it's working well so far. It's about 7 or 8ml shorter than the Bolt in 18500 mode. The button works very well, but I'm still getting used to the bottom placement. I've got the 2 cents for safety fuse in both the Bolt and Telescope (can never bee too careful). Here's some pics, sorry about pic quality:

 

[Adam the Aussie]

...and here it is in 16350 mode, measures 75ml (3 inches) from top to bottom. Stealthy...


and next to a 650mah ego...



Getting the hang of the button now, and this Vivi Nova that I also got today is the best clearo I've ever tried. I was going to give up on them after the Stardust, but this thing has potential.

 

[jjcordone]

Adam - Stupid question for you. The bottom button has me on the fence if I want to buy one or not.
Which finger are you pressing it with? Does it take much pressure to make it fire?
The bottom button looks cool and makes sense for a mechanical mod, but strikes as maybe being uncomfortable in daily use.

 

[Adam the Aussie]

Adam - Stupid question for you. The bottom button has me on the fence if I want to buy one or not.
Which finger are you pressing it with? Does it take much pressure to make it fire?
The bottom button looks cool and makes sense for a mechanical mod, but strikes as maybe being uncomfortable in daily use.

This is the first bottom button mod I've had, and to be honest it was awkward for the first few hours. It doesn't take much pressure to activate the switch, but despite this, I found the smooth chrome finish sliding up slightly when I applied pressure from the bottom. I've since worked out I need to grip the mod with my thumb and forefinger on the ridge at the top of the bottom tube and activate the switch with the bottom knuckle of my little finger. It sounds awkward, but it's second nature now and I've only owned the Telescope 2 days. Here's a pic that shows how I use it, hope it helps:

 

[doubleganger]

I have a Telescope and really like it. BTW it's made of copper, not aluminum. I really like it but I can't use it. I have ADD pretty bad and have managed to melt down TWO Titan tanks and gave myself a very light burn by putting it in the holster I carry it in without locking out the button. Obviously a fully mechanical mod doesn't have the feature of auto shutdown when the button is pressed too long. It would probably be ok if the button spring was stronger but it is what it is. So keep this one away from mental deficients like me.

 

[doubleganger]

Re: how to press the button. For me it worked best to grip the mod in my fist with the button against my little finger between my first and second knuckle, that is, just next to my palm. Then I activate by squeezing my whole hand.

 

[Striker911]

Just got mine today and I love it. One thing. Is it safe to run this with out the teflon washer on the spring? It seems okay and also seems like it give out more power without it. Just don't want a vented battery. Sorry for the ignorance but I dont have time to look.