I hear that. I love buying american and don't mind the extra cost. After seeing the Vmax in person, the SS machining is perfect, the screen is better, hits harder, is way smaller and is $90 it really doesn't make buying the "fake" a hard decision.
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I hear that. I love buying american and don't mind the extra cost. After seeing the Vmax in person, the SS machining is perfect, the screen is better, hits harder, is way smaller and is $90 it really doesn't make buying the "fake" a hard decision.
In the world of vaping, China has all the cards to dominate. Unfortunately buying US is paying more and being left in the dust a short while after. Let's just hope China slows down and makes a more durable product this time with the Zmax. Like the Vmax using a delicate cold solder joint to keep the ground wire on the tube. Your mod tips over a couple times and you are done. That crap has to stop if they are going to be charging $150 for these new mods. Just my 2 cents
Depends really,a company has to sell high in order to stay in business,a reseller has to sell the accessories at a competitive price to attract more customers,not so much with the main hardware but hey 
I don't care where a device is built, it's how it performs that matters to me. I have 2 Provari's, and I can't wait until I get my hands on my ZMax next week..
If it doesn't do what it's supposed to, I'll relegate it to backup device or ohm tester..
I have to agree with you. If a PV is built on Mars who cares.. If it great, its great.
I was curious about the source of electronics in the Provari so I shot them an email and they responded very fast.
Hi Mike,
That is a very good question
The circuit boards are created in Bellevue Washington. However, some components on the circuit board were made in China because that is the only place where you can get them.
The tubes are machined here in Snohomish County, and the finish is done locally as well
Then we program and test the boards and then put it all together here in our warehouse in Monroe, Washington.
Kindly,
C______
Hi Mike,
That is a very good question
The circuit boards are created in Bellevue Washington. However, some components on the circuit board were made in China because that is the only place where you can get them.
The tubes are machined here in Snohomish County, and the finish is done locally as well
Then we program and test the boards and then put it all together here in our warehouse in Monroe, Washington.
Kindly,
C______
I have to agree with you! As you know the first run of anything out of China is a paid for beta test. I prefer not to pay retail for a product that I'm beta testing.
Yeah, specs look solid enough. Now to see how she works in the real world.
Your list of your toys says stainless zmax. Do u have one already?
Yeah, specs look solid enough. Now to see how she works in the real world.
ummm.. ummm.. now how did you go and notice that?! ummm.. that's just a wish list. Yeah, that's what it is, just a wish list.
Not buying it huh?! NO COMMENT!! ..
It's enroute to me. Should get here next week hopefully, you know with mail and customs etc. My last package made it to Toronto, and then decided to go for a trip to Montreal before it came back to me. So, delays not withstanding I should hopefully have one in my hand sometime next week.
If you can't mention it publicly, pm me with a small review of if. I curious to see if it functions as it should.
ummm.. ummm.. now how did you go and notice that?! ummm.. that's just a wish list. Yeah, that's what it is, just a wish list.
Not buying it huh?! NO COMMENT!! ..
It's enroute to me. Should get here next week hopefully, you know with mail and customs etc. My last package made it to Toronto, and then decided to go for a trip to Montreal before it came back to me. So, delays not withstanding I should hopefully have one in my hand sometime next week.
If you can't mention it publicly, pm me with a small review of if. I curious to see if it functions as it should.
I'm curious too.
I'll keep y'all posted. Nothing to hide here..
One would hope that the zmax is further removed from a beta device than was the vmax. ST have, after all, produced 2 versions and 4 revisions of the vmax and it may be they've learned from that experience together with their customer and vendor feedback.
Crystal clear vaping should have them in a week or two. The owner Andrew has been using one of the zmaxs for little while now. He has a lot of positive things to say about it. I know he is vender and has product to sell but he seems like a real stand up guy though
The board is made in America, it's also on their site.
Some of the components on it do come from China because it's the only place you can buy them.
I don't think the Provari is some magical device - it does work when I push the button though.
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You're obviously not au fait with the concept of trade deficits.
Every little helps.
I'm not too bothered because I live in Europe and we're all in the toilet anyway, might as well have a bit of company as we splosh around.
The only winners here are those darn Martians!
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DirkBongo, good information here but let's keep this thread on track regarding the Zmax and not get side-tracked into a US vs China business model please. There's enough threads out there for that.
Hint: This is for those users that would be thinking of responding to Dirk's "trade deficits" post.
Hint: This is for those users that would be thinking of responding to Dirk's "trade deficits" post.
DirkBongo, good information here but let's keep this thread on track regarding the Zmax and not get side-tracked into a US vs China business model please. There's enough threads out there for that.
Hint: This is for those users that would be thinking of responding to Dirk's "trade deficits" post.
Sorry Dusty!
Better?
More from Poland;
I just need to press the push button again to Zmax switched to step-down
If we do not do it and cartomizer twisted it to fly a balloon beautiful smelly and so will end your life
There is currently no owner's manual, a friend, with Smoktech all showed me live via Skype.
And here's my proof:
First Zmax with two 18350 batteries (using a deeper cup) set to 3Watt Boge cartomizer with LR 2.0 Ohm XXL
STEP-DOWN
Second Zmax'a same setting, the same cartomizer, but this time a single battery 18 650
STEP-UP
Result output voltage is the same, but it seems to me that the step-down reflects the taste of liquid: much better :?
I'm still waiting on an oscilloscope to see what happens there.
Two things that I can gather from this;
Google translation sucks really hard and that if you don't adjust your device from boost to buck then you'll blow your carto/head off.
Here's a picture for Optimo;
Not expected to be around until late September/early October.
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No apologies necessary bud, as I said good information in your post. I've just seen SO MANY threads get derailed with these types of conversations. They always flare up into hot topics..
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