Smoktek Smokbox Varicool- 6 Amp Beast Destroys the Provari V2 in Xtreme Vaping

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smoktek Smokbox Varicool- 6 Amp Beast destroys the Provari V2 in Xtreme vaping

The complete results of my testing are found on this thread
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...k-smokbox-varicool-6amp-usa-mod-review-3.html

Synopsis: The maximum that the Provari v2 could go was
On a 1.8 Ohm Vivi Nova it did 5.5V // 2.75 Amps //15.1 Watts
on a Dual Coil 1.5 Ohm it did
4.9V // 3.2 Amps //16 Watts

The Smoktek Smokbox Varicool 6 Amp Beast
On a 1.8 Ohm Vivi Nova it did 6.4V // 3.2 amps // 20 Watts
On a Dual Coil 1.5 Ohm it did 6.2V // 4 Amps // 26 Watts

For Xtreme Vaping the Provari V2 at 3X the price couldn't compete with the 6 Amp beast.
In real world tests 6 Amp Beast generated around 25% more Amps and around 50% more Watts under Xtreme Vaping Conditions.

 
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I did a further test on a 1.25 Dual Cartomizer
The Provari showed the Cartomizer at 1.3OHM but I'm going to assume that because it doesn't show 3 digits that this cartomizer is performing at 1.25 Dual Coil.
The Provari went up to 4.5V and errored out on anything higher.
So 4.5V 3.6Amps and 16.1 Watts is the maximum the Provari can do. The chip is rated for 3.5Amps so the provari with this Cartomizer was brought just a tad above it's chip limitation and refused to go further.

Now for the Smoktek
At 5.2V it pulled 4.9 under Load
At 6.1 it pulled 5.8V under load
At 6.3 it pulled Solid 6V under load, It's so hot that I'm burning my lips but I'll try to see if I can last for 10 seconds. Sorry the maximum that I could go was 8 seconds. It's just so hot, but it maintained a solid 6.0 the whole time
Now we take it to the Max 6.6V
It started at 6.2V than down to 6.1 v at around 8 seconds and than to 6.0V

I'm going to make the statement that the 6.2V and 6.1V is the maximum it will go
But for a stable vape 6.0V is it.

The Beast does as advertised
6V 4.8Amps and 28.8 Watts Stable

It maxes out at
6.2V 30.6 Watts and 4.96 Amps but won't remain stable.

Conclusion:
The 6 Amp Beast will provide stable 6V vaping on the Lowest Dual Cartomizer that is standard in the Market.

The Provari V2 Wimps out at 4.5V, It's 3.5 Amp Chip limits it to this level.
 

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The Beast is certainly that. And in a sweet compact package. However I'm not sure you can say it does as advertised. 4.96 amps is quite a ways from 6. Still gonna have to get one though. :p Thanks tomz.

The 4.96 is the Amps that you can get from a Dual Coil 1.25 Cartomizer running at 6.0V. I haven't been limited by the Beast just the Cartomizers.

If anyone has a suggestion for a Cartomizer that will utilize 6 Amps, I'm game.
 
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I hate you Extre248. I will definitely have to buy one of these.
Just what I need another e-cig expenditure.
Sigh....

This is a readout from my smoktech vmax at 3.8v as an example of the details you get:

Vmax set @ 3.8v
Vpeak = 6.782 V Vrms = 4.736 V
Ipeak = 3.232 A
Ppeak = 21.919 W Ptrue = 12.285 W
Resistance = 2.006 ohm
Duty Cycle = 56.05 % Freq = 1174 Hz
PWM Device Detected

A great tool for the ecig toolbox...
 

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I just ordered one. I agree, kudos to Down Under ingenuity. You would have thought an American Company would have come out with this device at a reasonable price point. Guess I have to keep my eye on Australia for technological leaps!
I can't wait to try it. Thanks for the


This is a readout from my smoktech vmax at 3.8v as an example of the details you get:

Vmax set @ 3.8v
Vpeak = 6.782 V Vrms = 4.736 V
Ipeak = 3.232 A
Ppeak = 21.919 W Ptrue = 12.285 W
Resistance = 2.006 ohm
Duty Cycle = 56.05 % Freq = 1174 Hz
PWM Device Detected

A great tool for the ecig toolbox...
 

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Kind of gotta agree to ronda. Who the hell vapes at anything above let's say 15W?? This is just advertising and nothing that relates to your all-day experience. Just like quad-core processors in smartphones which, I'm sure, are great for marketing but don't give you any edge over other dual-core processors since it's simply not used. Just like mods with 28W :facepalm:
 

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Wattage does seem pretty ridiculous. I don't even turn my ProVari all the way up on a 3ohm carto, much less one with a lesser ohm rating which would do nothing but fry it and possibly the juice. Vaping at that kind of wattage... you might as well just be smoking IMO. If it was ideal to vape at this amperage I'm sure I could just rig a car battery up by my couch to an atomizer system. :laugh:

Impressive feat nonetheless (Especially for the price!), but yes it is hindered by real world application usage.
 

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I hate to be "that girl", but all I got from any of this is that the Provari was made for real vaping, while the Smokbox was made to take 1 second hits, and jumpstart motorcycles...
Serious question, What defines real vaping?
Kind of gotta agree to ronda. Who the hell vapes at anything above let's say 15W?? This is just advertising and nothing that relates to your all-day experience. Just like quad-core processors in smartphones which, I'm sure, are great for marketing but don't give you any edge over other dual-core processors since it's simply not used. Just like mods with 28W :facepalm:
Dual Coil Cartos above 12w, many people enjoy this vape.
Wattage does seem pretty ridiculous. I don't even turn my ProVari all the way up on a 3ohm carto, much less one with a lesser ohm rating which would do nothing but fry it and possibly the juice. Vaping at that kind of wattage... you might as well just be smoking IMO. If it was ideal to vape at this amperage I'm sure I could just rig a car battery up by my couch to an atomizer system. :laugh:

Impressive feat nonetheless (Especially for the price!), but yes it is hindered by real world application usage.
Might as well be smoking? That's ridiculous. How did you come to the conclusion that it is hindered by real world application?
at the end of the day i can't fully trust the quality control and safety of smoktek products..not saying they arent good and feature wise may very well be better than the provari, but no way does it come close to its safety and quality and probably by default its LONgevity
What reason do you have to not trust the QC? Do you have experience with SmokeTEK (not SmokeTech)?


I would ask that all of you reread your comments for sanity. It is variable voltage. Too hot? Turn it down.

Tom did a great job on this test and the results remained unbiased. The scope of the test was Extreme Vaping....not real sure how this was confused into expecting "real world" or the average vaper's power level.

It's impossible to list all the miniscule reasons that Provari fans will find to dismiss a product. But in this case, after often reading "it doesn't even hold up to it advertised amp limit" as a reason to dismiss other products, now you are dismissing a product because it is capable of power levels that no sane person would vape. :confused::confused::confused:

Again, it is variable voltage.....you can turn it down.:rolleyes:
 

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As in, at that amperage, who is to say what all is burning in it? At that point you may no longer be vaping, where the juice is turned into vapor, and the juice could actually be smoking. If you find it enjoyable to vape like that, more power to you. I'd say the other 99 percentile are okay with turning it into vapor and vaping normally.
 

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The mod itself isn't. I'm sure it's perfectly suitable to normal everyday vaping, it's just the ability to go that high in amperage will blow or fry just about any atomizer or cartomizer out there after a handful of minutes and it's not an enjoyable experience for most anyway - so real world application of that amperage is next to useless outside of spec sheet wars.

I don't necessarily understand the need to compare it directly to the ProVari though. It's a completely different device, why not compare it to other VV box mods or, specifically, with the forthcoming VV Reo? I find that most people prefer one or the other (with a very niche just buying most anything). I myself like machined metal tube mods, so it'd be a hard sell to get me interested in a plastic box no matter if it could push amps like a car battery.
 

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I hate to be "that girl", but all I got from any of this is that the Provari was made for real vaping, while the Smokbox was made to take 1 second hits, and jumpstart motorcycles...


Hi Rondasherril,
Thanks for your comment, but it isn't pertinent to this thread.
This is not a Provari Bashing thread nor does it compare the quality of the Provari to that of the Varicool Beast.

The thread is a comparison of the two at extreme vaping temperatures. I should add that I own a Provari V2 and the Smoktek Varicool Beast and I've relegated the Provari to a back up unit and Ohm tester.

The unit is smaller,has excellent battery life and it's voltage under load is rock solid. If you are interested in finding out more, I've completely reviewed these units from top to bottom. The links to my reviews are in the first post.
 
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