smooth or vape wizard?

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MsGoddess2U

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HAHAHAHA!!! Yah, it's been a few weeks. I'm not as patient as you are. Maybe that'll change, once I've been doing this for a while. I am getting better though. I at least steep a new batch for 24 hrs in 150° water and let it breathe for an hour or so halfway through, before I even taste it...only because that initial chemical taste I've gotten numerous times has made me almost never want to try that flavor again
 

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HAHAHAHA!!! Yah, it's been a few weeks. I'm not as patient as you are. Maybe that'll change, once I've been doing this for a while. I am getting better though. I at least steep a new batch for 24 hrs in 150° water and let it breathe for an hour or so halfway through, before I even taste it...only because that initial chemical taste I've gotten numerous times has made me almost never want to try that flavor again

I wouldn't say I'm patient, it's just that I have other diy recipes that work really well so I have a good half litre of diy juice and probably another half litre of store bought juice (nicoticket, bryces and chefsvapour) so I'm trying to get through them too, means I don't need to rush onto my diy custard yet (got 45ml of very very well steeped cls, 40ml of bryces so well steeped it's almost black and another 40ml of chefsvapour abc to get through)
 

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Don't put your nicotine in anything over 120 degrees, otherwise it will degrade the nic goddess.

HAHAHAHA!!! Yah, it's been a few weeks. I'm not as patient as you are. Maybe that'll change, once I've been doing this for a while. I am getting better though. I at least steep a new batch for 24 hrs in 150° water and let it breathe for an hour or so halfway through, before I even taste it...only because that initial chemical taste I've gotten numerous times has made me almost never want to try that flavor again
 

MsGoddess2U

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Don't put your nicotine in anything over 120 degrees, otherwise it will degrade the nic goddess.

OH DANG!!! I had no idea!! Thank you very much!!! So...what if I made the recipe, holding out the nicotine, steeped in the 150° water for say 3 hrs or so and then add the nicotine and shake real good while it's still hot....? Or should I just steep longer in 120°?
 

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I would seriously get a stir plate from ebay for 48 bucks, heat your juice in beaker all together for 4 minutes or so in hot sink water.
then throw it on the stir plate.....

Also, depending on amount of vg in your nic base, that will still need to be heated in order
to thoroghly mix everything together, so witholding it from your mix while you heat it, won't really help
matters.

this is the one i have...$42 with free shipping.
Magnetic Stir Plate: Lab Equipment | eBay

that will mix up your juice in 5 minutes.....while it's warm it will mix it very well.
 
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MsGoddess2U

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Nov 16, 2014
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Salem, Oregon
I would seriously get a stir plate from ebay for 48 bucks, heat your juice in beaker all together for 4 minutes or so in hot sink water.
then throw it on the stir plate.....

Also, depending on amount of vg in your nic base, that will still need to be heated in order
to thoroghly mix everything together, so witholding it from your mix while you heat it, won't really help
matters.

this is the one i have...$42 with free shipping.
Magnetic Stir Plate: Lab Equipment | eBay

that will mix up your juice in 5 minutes.....while it's warm it will mix it very well.

I do want to get one but my funds are really limited right now
 

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Smooth is more of a creamy texture, without the taste of milk or whatever, or being sugary. It makes the juice more "smooth", funnily enough ;).
Vape Wizard effects the taste and can really make your juice nicer and develop the flavor (depending, of course, on what the flavor is, and that it's not completely horrible to start with - it helps, but is not a miracle maker!). It can make a flavor that's basically with out interest much more flavorsum!
There's no comparison between the two really, as Smmoth is good for use with any flavor... fruits, desserts, custard, tobaccos etc. I find Magic Mask to be more limited to tobaccos, although some do use small quantities in other juices.
Smmoth isn't really a cream, as it's got no taste to it, just texture, but does help with mixtures that need a creamy taste, along with some kind of cream, or not, your choice... For example it gives custard a nice texture without changing the taste, as would do acream with it's particular taste (DdL, Whipped Cream etc.)
So... Magic Mask is an enhancer for flavors, and can change then... to a certain degree.
Smooth is a texture agent, without altering the flavor as such.

To help my impatience I'm going to buy a ultra sound cleaner, cheap, maybe under 40€, the price of 3 x 15ml of good juice. Using water, 30 minutes at 30] seems to be the reccomended "dose". They seem quite popular and the juice, after an airing I presme, is vapeable after half an hour.
Micr ovens, low, and for a short period work quite well, but do watch the time and temperature. I avoid plastic bottles, which melt (speaking from experience!) and I imagine also they disperse the products used in the plastic into the juice! Yucky!! I try to avoid micro ovens in general!!
Hot baths, with regular airing (take off the top and let the air renew), do help, but too hot inflates plastic bottles with the top on, and they can fall over with out the top.
On the whole, ultra sounds do seem a good option. I'm longing to get one! Experience is the only way to be sure :D

Happy mixing :D
 
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