SMPL Style - No Tanks?
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A lot of tanks don't have a protruding positive pin. The aspire tanks immediately come to mind. If you have a tank that has a protruding pin, it is fine to install the top cap onto it and use it assuming you have a coil that is within the proper resistance range. One of my friends has been running an XXIX with a kanger STM for a few months now and he has still got a face and hands.
Thank you @Nikea Tiber ! I really have no interest in tanks ever again, but I was just super curious.
Just be careful; I know that some older kanger tanks look like they have a protruding positive; but it's held in place by friction from the coil head. If I'm not mistaken too much torque can cause them to squash down and cause the + pin to go flush with the - threads, as well as destroy the coil head; this is assuming the prebuilt coil heads, not sure if the rba deck would have this problem. I'll dig mine out when I get home in a few hours.
I personally don't recommend prebuilt coils on mechanicals ESPECIALLY mods like the SMPL without a center pin.
Pre built coils are cheap, poorly made and have very thin rubber insulators that can tear and cause problems.
Don't take this the wrong way but if you can't build your own coils I would not recommend using a mechanical mod.
Mechanical mods are advanced user items and can be dangerous in the hands if vapers who don't fully understand the risks.
Know your limitations.
Pre built coils are cheap, poorly made and have very thin rubber insulators that can tear and cause problems.
Don't take this the wrong way but if you can't build your own coils I would not recommend using a mechanical mod.
Mechanical mods are advanced user items and can be dangerous in the hands if vapers who don't fully understand the risks.
Know your limitations.
@Nikea Tiber , I won't be using tanks. I got rid of all of my tanks when I started using REOs. I was just curious why the vendors said not to use tanks on the 'hybrid style' mechs, like the SMPL.
I am using RDAs with protruding posi pins.
@Bad Ninja I agree. I build my own coils and I follow all necessary precautions!
I am using RDAs with protruding posi pins.
@Bad Ninja I agree. I build my own coils and I follow all necessary precautions!
Just have to understand and comprehend that the center post is the positive, and the outer threaded post is the negative, and you don`t want those to get anywhere near close enough to cause a dead short on the top of the battery. If you know that, choosing a tank that will work properly should be reasonable decision. If the positive post is was too short for comfort (<1mm), if it it has one of those fancy new collapsing posts, or is a post that will collapse when pressure is applied (Kanger pro tank, ect) it is immediately disqualified for use on the SMPL.
My favorite tank on the SMPL is a Orchid. Most have a nicely protruding center post that is solid. But it is up to user to understand this and safety check it themselves! I did get one orchid that had a bad=short insulator in it that allowed the center post to get pushed up, which I fixed with a new delrin insulator.
PS, on tanks that have a screw out center pin. These can get screwed back in with repeated pushing on the button. What you want to do is place a couple of good o-ring (or better yet a delrin washer) on the this to make sure it wont get screwed back in far enough to become an issue. Obviously the operator is responsible for all user error and safety issues that can or will become relevant when using this direct connection system.
My favorite tank on the SMPL is a Orchid. Most have a nicely protruding center post that is solid. But it is up to user to understand this and safety check it themselves! I did get one orchid that had a bad=short insulator in it that allowed the center post to get pushed up, which I fixed with a new delrin insulator.
PS, on tanks that have a screw out center pin. These can get screwed back in with repeated pushing on the button. What you want to do is place a couple of good o-ring (or better yet a delrin washer) on the this to make sure it wont get screwed back in far enough to become an issue. Obviously the operator is responsible for all user error and safety issues that can or will become relevant when using this direct connection system.
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I'm with VHR, I love my orchid tanks! I have a couple of them and keep them in rotation a lot more compared to my other tanks like the Billow, Goblin,..etc. The one on my smpl is a modified orchid mini. Excuse the mess on my build table.
I just checked, the kanger rba physically supports the (sliding) positive pin on the base of the tank assembly. As long as the tank is fully assembled and the positive pin protrudes it is fine to use on a hybrid. If you screw the tank base onto a hybrid without the rba deck fully screwed on a hard short would probably occur, though, same goes for removing the deck without first removing the entire tank from your mech (which you should do anyways if you are taking your tank apart that much).
Does anyone know if there are tank systems that have a spring loaded positive? That would also be a no-go with a hybrid.
Does anyone know if there are tank systems that have a spring loaded positive? That would also be a no-go with a hybrid.
I could see how certain tanks could cause a problem. For example, ProTank IIs...when I used them on a regulated mod, I rebuilt the coils...IIRC the positive pin was press fitted into an insulator...that may be problematic on a pin-less mod!
Those paper-thin rubber insulators and $2 Chinese quality control are the problem.
Mechanicals are made for advanced vapers.
Prebuilt coils are made for novice vapers.
When a novice vaper starts justifying why they can use the wrong gear on advanced devices bad things are bound to happen.
@Bad Ninja I've noticed that you do a good job around here with posting the warnings of mech use, but also defending their service when properly handled.
I applaud you for that!
I applaud you for that!
Thanks
I use mainly mechanical mods, and I've repaired them as a side job for several local vape stores.
I love mechanicals, and they are safe to use if you understand how they work and the dangers associated.
Sure!
Sounds like fun!
Yes, knowledge is key. I've never had a short, due to knowing/learning what I'm doing
I'm all mechanical now, been using REOs for almost a year exclusively. Always was curious about straight mechs though. Kinda funny, I went from regulated to REOs, then to tube mechs! Nothing will replace my REOs(or other squonkers) for out-and-about, as I can't stand building/maintaining tanks, and I don't like dripping outside of the home.
Sometimes, while at home, if I don't feel like rebuilding one of my REOs to change flavors, I end up just sticking with a certain flavor.
Now, I keep three mechs at home for when I just feel like dripping some different flavors for a short time.
The smpl paired with the Snubnose rda is also one of my favorite combo. It's only 4 inches long and the shortest mech/rda combo I have.
I have two SMPLs with Mini Haze's. Really compact too.
I have been using a Subtank Mini with a SMPL for months, but only after shortening the negative threads by .020" on the 510. It just looked too close for comfort. After doing this, this combo has operated flawlessly.
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