Snails - Response on Threads Part 3

[tiburonfirst]

boo for ces' lawn mowing
woot for frannie's sunday bargain

~~~~~ @ bear and pepper!

not too bad, pepper - at least i slept some

 

[AttyPops]

Too late!!! I already have the Sony TV / Google TV (take your pick because different places call it different things, but it's all the same box). Regardless... using the internet on a television is an eye-gouging experience. It tried - once - coming here, and all post text just looked like a blurry grey line. Folks say that TVs have better resolution, but I sure as hell am not seeing that.

HD TVs and computer monitors these days have similar resolutions. TVs used to be much worse than computer monitors. But now it's fairly standardized. That's why both use HDMI too. However, there's a lot of stuff "in the middle". Video compression, conversion, etc. If your computer has an HDMI out and your TV has HDMI ports you can use your TV as a monitor. The dedicated graphics card in your PC will do a better job of converting stuff to "normal" than most of the boxes out there. And of course it runs a real browser. Unlike CES, who seems to run chrome. (jk).

1080p x 1920 is a good resolution for a monitor or TV. Of course, there's always more...like retina and 4K and junk. But meh.

So whatever happened probably happened in the conversion process. Unless you're using a 720p or 720i TV. Then it may make a difference. You have to make sure the setting on "the box" are set so that it knows the proper resolution...even though the HDMI standard should make it known to the box...good to check anyway.

 

[AttyPops]

And CES....maybe install Firefox???????

 

[SilverBear]

Eye doctor appointment first-thing tomorrow AM.

YAY for pupil dilation!!! Why is it we have all the technology we could possibly (not) need, but there has never been an "antidote" for those dilation drops? Will be sure to bring sunglasses along.

Oh... and just like the sleep center (CPAP) sit-in a couple weeks ago, the same will happen in the optician area tomorrow re: the frames they gave me last time. They WILL order new ones, free of charge. (And that brings me back to the paragraph above... how are we able to pick out new frames and stuff when we cannot see properly???)

 

[CES]

Atty, I use firefox for almost everything. In fact, the only place i use chrome is for ECF on this (my old) laptop. I switched to chrome for ECF two server upgrades ago, when ECF was acting marginally better on chrome. Now i've left it this way cause it keep all the e-cig ad tracking to one browser (and yes, i have don't track, and don' report selected...as if they'd actually follow those preferences). I still use FF for ECF at work, but once i get that computer upgraded (ie wipe and install Win7) , i'll probably keep ECF on chrome there too.

 

[SilverBear]

boo for ces' lawn mowing

I vibrate with anticipation to the first mowing of the season!!! Usually April 17-24. However, the lawn needs a full raking prior to that mowing. Time grows shorter by the day.

 

[CES]

Bear, just look at the frames from a distance?

Or, you could probably get there early and select your frames prior to your appointment, then you'll know what to order later when you can't see. For me it's a moot point. No glasses look good on me, the best i can do is less bad, so it doesn't matter much if i can see well when i pick them out.

Oh, and you could tell the eye doc that your eyes get really uncomfortable with tropicamide (the dilation agent) an ask if they have something shorter acting

 

[SilverBear]

Or, you could probably get there early and select your frames prior to your appointment,

They open at 8. My appointment is at 8.

 

[AttyPops]

Atty, I use firefox for almost everything. In fact, the only place i use chrome is for ECF on this (my old) laptop. I switched to chrome for ECF two server upgrades ago, when ECF was acting marginally better on chrome. Now i've left it this way cause it keep all the e-cig ad tracking to one browser (and yes, i have don't track, and don' report selected...as if they'd actually follow those preferences). I still use FF for ECF at work, but once i get that computer upgraded (ie wipe and install Win7) , i'll probably keep ECF on chrome there too.

So, the question is....do the problems show up with FF too?

 

[CES]

They open at 8. My appointment is at 8.

oh, i guess that won't work then....

 

[SilverBear]

Oh, and you could tell the eye doc that your eyes get really uncomfortable with tropicamide (the dilation agent) an ask if they have something shorter acting

You seem well-versed. Why is there NOT a reversal agent? Is this like a "joke" they pull on us for their jollies? Like my MD's need to do that "hot finger wave" during a physical??? I'll bet they all roar about it during conventions.

 

[CES]

So, the question is....do the problems show up with FF too?

I dunno. I haven't had time at work to check in and haven't checked it at home (when i get bumped too much, i go do something else instead).

It's also possible that the wireless on this computer is getting flakey, though this specific problem didn't occur until after the upgrade. I reported it, and will give it some time to see if gets fixed, along with the first post stuff. If it turns out that it's just me, i'll deal with it.

 

[CES]

You seem well-versed. Why is there NOT a reversal agent? Is this like a "joke" they pull on us for their jollies? Like my MD's need to do that "hot finger wave" during the physical??? I'll bet they all roar about it during conventions.

Um..how much information do you want? I teach a lecture to vision sciences graduate students on pupil dilation and constriction

The drops block the receptors that activate the iris muscles that cause pupil constriction. Since your pupils are unable to constrict, they remain dilated. Because it works by binding to and blocking receptors, you have to wait until it washes out- there's not an easy way to reverse it.

There's probably stuff you could use (choline, acetylcholine) to shorten the effects, but my guess is no one's bothered to do the safety studies, because washing out in an hour or six is thought to be an acceptable side effect (as opposed to unknown side effects of adding a second set of drops to the eyes) .

It's considered to be short acting, so it's possible that the alternatives are worse. They do it because they have to have the pupil fully dilated to see the entire retina and make sure there's nothing horribly wrong with it.

 

[CES]

Correction, google and pub med say there are reversal agents...pilocarpine, dapiprazole, thymoxamine ...but

Reversal of pupil dilation is not recommended as a standard procedure following pupil dilation as
this poses risks to the eye, such as secondary angle closure, that outweigh any benefit gained

http://www.optometrists.asn.au/media/274917/clinical_guideline_pupil_dilation.pdf


"secondary angle closure" can increase the pressure inside the eye, and can be a risk for glaucoma

 

[SilverBear]

Um..how much information do you want? I teach a lecture to vision sciences graduate students on pupil dilation and constriction

The drops block the receptors that activate the iris muscles that cause pupil constriction. Since your pupils are unable to constrict, they remain dilated. Because it works by binding to and blocking receptors, you have to wait until it washes out- there's not an easy way to reverse it.

There's probably stuff you could use (choline, acetylcholine) to shorten the effects, but my guess is no one's bothered to do the safety studies, because washing out in an hour or six is thought to be an acceptable side effect (as opposed to unknown side effects of adding a second set of drops to the eyes) .

It's considered to be short acting, so it's possible that the alternatives are worse. They do it because they have to have the pupil fully dilated to see the entire retina and make sure there's nothing horribly wrong with it.

Correction, google and pub med say there are reversal agents...pilocarpine, dapiprazole, thymoxamine ...but

"secondary angle closure" can increase the pressure inside the eye, and can be a risk for glaucoma

See?! I knew you were well-versed!

Would using LESS if the dilating agent give the doc enough "insight" and "wash out" quicker? Or is it "one drop or one gallon, it doesn't matter"? And... is that stuff the neon orange/yellow drop... the one that stains clothes and leaves tracks like tears??? The assistant puts two or three different things in... coming at my eyes like a charging bull... "DON'T BLINK, NOW" she says....

Oh... and why are frames so freaking expensive? I am a "rimless" fan... but the frame STILL goes well over $350. What are they made of that makes them worth that price? Od do they charge that just because they can?... and we have no real choice.

 

[CES]

I started reading the latest James Patterson novel this morning (one of the Alex Cross series, the only series he still writes by himself. they're not good books, but they take very little energy to read).

So, the main bad guy guy is impersonating a room service waiter, sets up an early morning coffee delivery to his intended victim. From his gym bag, the bad guy pulls a bottle out of his bag. The bottle is labeled

QTZ Vapes
92.2% tasteless nicotine liquid
Extracted from the finest South Carolina flue cured leaves

..and he pours several ounces into the coffee.

 

[CES]

See?! I knew you were well-versed!

Would using LESS if the dilating agent give the doc enough "insight" and "wash out" quicker? Or is it "one drop or one gallon, it doesn't matter"? And... is that stuff the neon orange/yellow drop... the one that stains clothes and leaves tracks like tears??? The assistant puts two or three different things in... coming at my eyes like a charging bull... "DON'T BLINK, NOW" she says....

Oh... and why are frames so freaking expensive? I am a "rimless" fan... but the frame STILL goes well over $350. What are they made of that makes them worth that price? Od do they charge that just because they can?... and we have no real choice.

the neon yellow drop is fluorescein...it glows fluorescent green under the blinding blue light that they use right after dumping it in your eyes. It's to check for scratches on your cornea and/or to check whether contacts lenses fit right.

I have no idea whether they could get away with using less of the dilating agent. It's usually 0.5%-1% concentration ...what they do is "standard of care" and optometry students are taught not to question it - or even if they have questions they are to do it that way anyway.

I have no answer on the frames price. I usually get the bendy, unbreakable frames. But I also make them put the new lenses in the old frames. There is no way I'm buying new frames every time i need new lenses.

 

[AttyPops]

Watching the old COSMOS series on NGC in prep for tonight (and cooking dinner. GF is coming over for dinner.)
Flyby....Hi all, including Pepper.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

afternoon.

 

[tiburonfirst]

have fun, atty!