Snails - Response on Threads Part 3

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Yesterday afternoon, one of the beasties pointed out a rat on the roof, at the edge of the gutter over the back deck. It just sat there in broad daylight and stared. I went to get a broom handle to chase it away, and it didn't move, even after I almost touched its nose. Just stared at me. Since it seemed like it might have been sick, i didn't knock it off the roof, since i didn't want the beasties to catch a sick rat. It then sauntered (staggered?) slowly away over the top of the roof. Ick. Ick. Ick.

Then, later i was out front, pulling weeds, and came a cross a small, headless snake. I think that one was down to the (not feral, but still demanding breakfast) cats from across the street.

Spring critters.

ugh.
 

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Rat with rabies??

Probably not rabies-i think it would have been aggressive not merely stupid/unafraid ...might have been poison (I put some under the house last fall) or the beastie might have chomped it once before it escaped to the roof.

morning, stoney!


waiting on the ac guy - one heat pump is showing low pressure with the red light blinking :facepalm:

started my day rather well! :D

Not good Tibs.


Good morning Stone
 

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Good morning,Stone:) I think.........
Good morning Fran :D Concentrate on the positive today. Here's hoping that the deck will rebuild quickly and there are no rabid rats or septic issues in the near future :thumb:
morning, stoney!


waiting on the ac guy - one heat pump is showing low pressure with the red light blinking :facepalm:

started my day rather well! :D
Booo! for the blinking red lights, Tibs . . . .
Oh man. Good luck with that Tibs.

(You too Fran)

And CES too. I wonder if those ultrasonic things really repel stuff????????? (and don't bother beasties).
Good question....I've seen articles on both sides of that argument. Who to believe??
 

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If the frequency is set high enough, rats would hear it but the beasties wouldn't

What sounds can a rat hear?
Humans can hear sounds from about 16 to 20,000 Hz (20 kHz)*. Anything above 20 kHz is called "ultrasound," because those sounds are higher than we can hear. Anything below 20 Hz is called infrasound -- elephants communicate over miles with low, rumbling infrasound (more).

Rats can hear ultrasound: the range of the rat's hearing is around 200 Hz to 80 or 90 kHz (Fay 1988, Kelly and Masterson 1977, Warfield 1973). There is a whole world of high frequency sound out there that rats can hear that we cannot, a perceptual difference that humans tend to forget (Milligan et al. 1993, Sales et al. 1998).

For example, when a human gently rubs thumb and forfinger together, we hear nothing. But this movement makes a scratchy sound in the ultrasonic range. Wire cages make a lot of ultrasonic noise in addition to audible noise when rats move around in them.

Here are some of the frequency ranges that are perceptible to other species:

Dogs: up to 40,000 Hz
Cats: 100 to 60,000 Hz
Bats: 1,000 to 100,000 Hz
Dolphins: up to 150,000 Hz

but...

Why don't ultrasonic pest repellers work?

Ultrasonic devices do not work because rodents rapidly become accustomed to repeated sounds (a process called habituation). Mice and rats learn that the ultrasound from the pest repeller isn't dangerous, so they gradually get used to it and return to their nesting and feeding areas.

What do rats hear?
 
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