Flying through to say Hi, so Hi! 
Been sick, still not completely up to par, but at least I'm no longer ignoring the laptop.
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What's wrong, I'm sorry you aren't feeling well darlin xoxoxoxox get better okay?
I'm sorry you aren't feeling well darlin xoxoxoxox get better okay?
No, no, no. You're SMART. Probably like to run in sandals too.....
The OP posted again with a bunch of qualifications to it....
He really needs to understand that used batteries are not a "good deal" to begin with. Decent protected batteries are about $5.00. New.
Like there's never been laptop/phone/airplane fires.......
Hope you feel better soon Stormy
Heya AB
Atty, I see he also added a very large disclaimer...and is also very kind and generous in his comments about others...
(I don't usually run in sandals, and i most often remember to put the scissors down when i'm running- unless i'm chasing someone )
Heya AB
Atty, I see he also added a very large disclaimer...and is also very kind and generous in his comments about others...
(I don't usually run in sandals, and i most often remember to put the scissors down when i'm running- unless i'm chasing someone
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Update on the FastTech shipment which had been on the San Francisco merry-go-round - according to USPS tracking, it's been delivered!! woot! woot!
Meanwhile, my mech mod order from VaporBreak is still "Origin Post is Preparing Shipment"
FYI:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/425239-fasttech-all-buzz.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ion/424721-funniest-fasttech-description.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ssion/425446-new-product-fasttech-thread.html
Meanwhile, my mech mod order from VaporBreak is still "Origin Post is Preparing Shipment"
FYI:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/425239-fasttech-all-buzz.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ion/424721-funniest-fasttech-description.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ssion/425446-new-product-fasttech-thread.html
just got an email that was addressed to everyone in the building
I'm not quite sure whether or not the sender was serious about the meds, though lunches walking away is not uncommon
....Someone may have accidentally eaten my lunch salad that was left fridge over the weekend. It was saturated with my prescription medication as that’s the only way I can take this particular medicine. The side effects will probably kick-in 2-4 days from consumption. Please see me for the medical protocol for handling accidental ingestion. THANKS!
I'm not quite sure whether or not the sender was serious about the meds, though lunches walking away is not uncommon
....Someone may have accidentally eaten my lunch salad that was left fridge over the weekend. It was saturated with my prescription medication as that’s the only way I can take this particular medicine. The side effects will probably kick-in 2-4 days from consumption. Please see me for the medical protocol for handling accidental ingestion. THANKS!
I think he's just
ing with the perp. Something *I* would have done!!!ETA:
Food stealers are the lowest of the low.
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either way it's a great email. I'll have to ask him later whether he actually got someone to come in and 'fess up
(Heya Haze, hope you're having a good day)
(Heya Haze, hope you're having a good day)
That e-mail has got to be a joke CES/Kat. Hilarious.
OK. I get lost here too. I'd have to look at battery university. However, the max amps probably goes DOWN as you stack batteries since the voltage is higher....
Loved how the OP wanted the vets to try it 1st.
I hope they answer: "Vet's aren't stooopid enough to try this."
I'm just not going near it without enough info. Darwin rules.
OK. I get lost here too. I'd have to look at battery university. However, the max amps probably goes DOWN as you stack batteries since the voltage is higher....
Loved how the OP wanted the vets to try it 1st.
I hope they answer: "Vet's aren't stooopid enough to try this."
I'm just not going near it without enough info. Darwin rules.
Volts, Ohms, Watts, and Amps.
E-cigs introduce you to terms that you probably wouldn't use everyday without them. Yet, you need to understand some of them, in order to wade through the sites and options and understand the effect of your choices. This post discusses the electrical terms in particular; volts, ohms, watts and amps. The good news is...it isn't really that bad. The bad news is that it isn't a 2 second discussion.
The short answer is that if you have a Variable-Voltage (VV) or Variable Wattage (VW) device, you can just start low, dial it up, and make it work. No math required. Non-adjustable voltage PVs require you to select the proper ohm coil ahead of time.
However, if you want to UNDERSTAND how and why the ohms affect the heat, for example, that will take some work on your part. It's not too bad, but it's also something that you don't want to try to cram into a 2 minute reading. You may have to read this a couple of times. That's fine. Don't give up. If you really can't stand reading...skip to part 3.
Part 1 - coming to terms with it
OK let's get some terms straight first:
Volts = Electrical Pressure. Kind of like water pressure.
Ohms = Friction. Resistance to the flow of electricity. Without friction, we'd have no heat in our coils. Like a kink in a water hose.
Amps (amperes) = total electrons flowing past a point. Similar to the volume of water (# of molecules?) going past a point in the hose at one particular instant.
Watts = A measure of "work". Watts = Volts X Amps. How fast it could turn a water wheel.
Watts are kind of an "end-result". No work is done if there's no pressure. Also no work is done if there's no volume of water flowing. You have to have pressure and water flow to get an effective amount of water on the lawn from a sprinkler. High pressure with a very thin hose won't do it. Neither will no pressure with a fat fire-hose. You have to have volume and pressure at the same time. The constriction of a hose is a resistance (like ohms), and determines the flow rate for a given pressure.
All of these things are interrelated. If you change any one thing, the system as a whole is changed. In fact, if you know any two of the above variables, you can calculate the others. They are measurements for different aspects of a particular system. All pieces of the same puzzling phenomenon.
Volts, ohms, watts and amps are quantities that can be measured and related mathematically. That leads to the inevitable formulas....
Part 2 - Finally! Some math. Yay! (or OMG! I hate this stuff.)
Because volts, ohms, and amps are measurable quantities, someone took a lot of measurements of them and figured out how they all relate. The results of this relationship became "Ohm's Law" of electricity. The law was named after the German physicist Georg Ohm, who published them in the early 1800's. Thanks to James Prescott Joule there's also Joule's Law: Watts = Volts x Amps but we're getting ahead.
Now quantities measured need names for them. Feet, meters, pounds, grams are all units of measure. Some of the units of measure for electricity are defined above: Volts, ohms, watts, amps. We have abbreviations for them so we can use them in formulas. The bad news is that you'll see several versions of these abbreviations. The good news is that we'll try to tell you the common ones so you can substitute whatever version you like.
Abbreviations:
Volts = V = E = (Straight line with little dots under it symbol for DC voltage)
Ohms = R = Ω = Resistance
Amps = I = A
Watts = P = W = Power
It's very irritating when you see one set of formulas published here, and another set somewhere else that uses different letters or symbols. Your multi-meter (the tool used to measure these things) often uses a different set too. Yet we have to pick one set. No matter what we select, someone's not going to like it...depending on if they are a "purest" or of they are in the commonly-seen camp. We'll use V for volts, R for ohms (resistance), I for Amps (because A is used for something else except on multi-meters), and P for watts (Power).
OK, so this guy Ohm published a "law" that is stated in modern form as:
Amps = Volts ÷ Ohms or I = V ÷ R
Add in Joule's Law: Watts = Volts X Amps or P = VI
Mathematicians, having nothing better to do than math, re-arranged all this stuff and came up with a list of formulas
Amps (I) = V ÷ R, also I = P ÷ V and I = Square-Root of (P ÷ R)
Volts (V) = I X R, also V = P ÷ I and V = Square-Root of (P X R)
Ohms (R) = V ÷ I, also R = V2 ÷ P and R = P ÷ I2
Watts (P) = V X I, also P = R X I2 and P = V2 ÷ R
OK. So the formulas are listed above. What does all this have to do with e-cigs?
Part 3 - Getting to the point, now that we have background and formulas.
You, a user of e-cigs, are basically juggling multiple variables related to electricity. Sure, there's other stuff too...e-juice VG/PG ratios, wicking, etc. but we're discussing electricity here. The point is that there's no ONE variable...there's always multiple things going on at once. Selecting a PV has electrical concerns too...for example the "amp limit" of the device. Swapping a carto out with different ohms means that you'll adjust the voltage (for VV stuff) or deal with the results for fixed-voltage stuff. VW adjusts voltage for you...like it or not.
To reiterate, you can't change one thing without it affecting the others somehow. So here's where we try to explain how what you do effects things. Also, note that this is not an e-cig safety thread. So we try to explain some things, but safety is another subject unto itself. Don't take this as gospel. We're trying to teach general concepts here.
Voltage...the Oomph factor
You have one of three types of PV's
1) Fixed voltage. They are "regulated" to a speific set voltage. They may dwindle below it before cutting out, but they are still "fixed" in that you can't adjust them. They are regulated though....electronic circuits inside attempt to make the voltage the same regardless of the battery charge. Some only do this when the battery is above the set voltage limit.
2) Variable voltage. Adjustable voltage (also adjustable wattage) e-cigs have circuitry to bump-up (boost) or regulate down (buck) battery voltage according to a dial that you set. Variable Wattage (VW) e-cigs read the resistance of the coil you've screwed onto the connector and calculate the voltage you need to acheive a desired wattage setting. So they adjust the voltage for you.
3) Follows battery voltage - ie two wires, a battery, and a connector. Vaping directly off the battery at whatever voltage it has at the moment. Typical for all-mechanical mods. Li-Ion (and that class of batteries including IMR) have a top voltage of about 4.2 volts but they drop quickly to about 3.7/3.6 volts and stay in that rage for most of the usable charge and then drop quickly below that to cut-off voltage.
Each of these types come in either swappable battery configurations (where you have a "cell" that you can remove) or internal battery configurations where you charge the whole unit somehow and cannot remove the battery from the electronics/mechanics.
How do you make a fixed voltage e-cig hotter or cooler? By selecting the proper ohm coil. It's the only "variable" that you can change. The voltage is fixed. And as we've learned above, if any two factors are known, all factors are set. So the heat will be P = V2 ÷ R (or Watts = Voltage squared divided by coil ohms) for a single coil. So if you want to vape at 8 watts, and you know the voltage of your fix-volt e-cig...use R = V2 ÷ P (voltage squared divided 8). A 3.7 volt e-cig needs 3.7 x 3.7 / 8 = 1.71125 ohms to get 8 watts. Of course, there's wiggle room. And in fact coil ohms vary a bit due to manufacturing variability. 2.0 ohms will work. 3.0 ohms is not that good. 1.5 ohms may even be a bit hot. On the other hand, some e-cigs are 3.4 volts (like the original authentic eGo) and they may do better at 1.5 ohms.
How do you make a VV, or VW e-cig hotter or cooler....by adjust the dial, of course! The difference is that with VW, it will "sense" the ohms of the coil that you have screwed on and calculate the proper voltage...assuming you don't fake it out with the dual-coil thing. More on DC (dual coil) stuff later. Due to differences in devices and coils, you may have to adjust VW a bit anyway. But it gets you into the ballpark regardless of what ohm coil you screw on.
So for regulated fixed voltage stuff, or for follow-battery-voltage stuff, you must select the proper ohms ahead of time...there's no adjustment for the voltage/wattage on the e-cig. Get it wrong, and it's too hot or too cool. It's not super picky though...there's a workable range of ohms within reason.
Wattage
You know wattage. It's like incandescent light-bulbs. More wattage = more energy used = hotter/brighter. It's the result of the voltage and the coil ohms per the formula above. Watts = heat for our purposes. Normal ranges are about 7-9 watts per coil. This is for "normal" coils. There are dual coils ...where the PV must supply double the current (amps) in order to keep the voltage high enough for two coils. Think of it like a two lane toll boot on a toll rode allowing double the cars through at once. Electrons per second past a point = amps (current). So more amps are required for dual coils at any given voltage.
The watts for dual coils are, not surprisingly, doubled for the device as a whole. If each coil is 8 watts, you need to supply a dual coil with 16 watts total. This is why dual-coil users often run up against amp limits on their devices. The device exceeds it's expected amp draw and either signals a "short" or drops the voltage to compensate for lack of amps. It won't work as expected, if at all, unless your PV can supply the amps at whatever voltage you set.
For VW devices...just set the wattage. For VV only devices...calculate the voltage or just start low and adjust higher as needed. To calculate the voltage:
So for single coils: Try 7-9 watts as a ballpark/average. Let's say 8. So voltage = Square-Root of (P X R) = Square-Root of (8 X ohms)
For dual coils: double the ohms 1st. A 1.5 ohm dual coil is really two 3.0 ohm coils side-by-side on the same connector. So the voltage is calculated for 3.0 ohms, NOT the 1.5 ohms. So around 5 volts should be good for a 1.5 ohm DC at 8 watts per coil. Because the square root of 24 (3 ohms times 8 watts) is about 5 (OK....4.898979485566356
amp limits
SLR
Symbols on multimeters
What about:
mAh?
Series vs Parallel (or covered under DCC)
Battery stuff or link to Battery University.
Is vaping SUPPOSED to be THAT confusing and difficult???
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Looks like it stays the same as once cell in the series for the whole "chain". However, imbalance becomes an issue.
Serial and Parallel Battery Configurations and Information
Serial and Parallel Battery Configurations and Information
so, i opened and copied the cookies (chrome)- but there were just three that i found at first. so i copied and pasted them. easy.
..after i cleaned cooked and logged back in there were 16, from two different domains. so i didn't send all. Turns out he only wanted the ones prior to logging on. whew.
I've had not problems on firefox on my work computer today, stayed logged in through the weekend with the browser closed, and it also had a bunch of cookies. I left those cookies alone. but let him know they were only from a single domain.
The test will be whether i have to log back in on chrome when i get home. fingers crossed
Time to go from job 1 to job 2.....enjoy the rest of the day y'all
(at least the OP from the sub ohm thread you posted had enough sense to know that he didn't know enough to try it...hopefully no one else will either)
Is vaping SUPPOSED to be THAT confusing and difficult???
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I've given up any trademark rights that i may have on that particular typo Bear- it's free for anyone to use as necessary without attribution
And it is simple:
The rest....is all explanation. Which is why people like CES...[should] get the big bucks.
The rest....is all explanation. Which is why people like CES...[should] get the big bucks.
Thanks, CES--my problem is, I can find no way to copy them. I found the list of cookies, and two different domains also, 2 and 16 cookies, respectively, but when I highlight them, I have no option to copy... It doesn't matter if I right or left click...
Only if I click on an individual cookie--it opens up and then I can highlight and copy. Weird.
Only if I click on an individual cookie--it opens up and then I can highlight and copy. Weird.
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