Snow Wolf 200w With Temp Control

[Juvecoop]

so I just checked the user instructions for the SW..
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ATOMIZER INSTALLATION AND DIS-ASSEMBLY:
If you remove the atomizer while the device is on and press the power button, “CHECK ATOMIZER” will be displayed. If you remove the atomizer while firing, “ATOMIZER REMOVE” will be displayed. When the device is on and you install an atomizer, “NEW COIL UP SAME DOWN” will be displayed; press the ‘–‘ button if it is the original atomizer, press the ’+’ button if a new atomizer has been installed.


NOTE: Please make sure the new atomizer is cold, otherwise the device will misread the atomizer resistance.


So it works the same as the DNA40. It read the base resistance when you put a new atty on, making sure it is at same temp as the mod. This is the base resistance I was talking about...

So does it automatically lock that base resistance until you put a new atty on?

 

[TheotherSteveS]

So does it automatically lock that base resistance until you put a new atty on?

I guess so. Unless it does some kind of DNA40-like refinement but I doubt it. Refinement is the reason the newer DNA40 chips have an explicit atty lock option to stop
the base resistance being adjusted by the chip...

 

[AtmizrOpin]

errr not sure that is correct!!

Unless this thing has some way of determining the temperature of the coil directly at the time you press the fire button (which is doesnt), how can it possibly just 'takes that reading then finds where it fits on the TCR curve'? The TCR is a plot of resistance change versus temperature for a given conductive wire not an absolute temperature per se. The curve used in these mods is derived with respect to a standard temperature, usually 20C. How can the mod possibly know where on the curve it sits with just a resistance reading from a random coil at some unknown temperature? See the problem?? Again, it can only work if it knows the resistance of your coil at some set reference temperature!!! In your scenario, a 0.1ohm coil at 20C would register a temp of say 20C, but a 0.2 ohm coil would report a much higher temp even though it is also at 20C...

Yea, I suck at explaining sh*t. I do understand they need a baseline. I'm just to A.D.D. to actually take the time to think about what I'm typing. Read your reply and immediately farted blood. Thanks for correcting me.

 

[cjpeltz]

Thanks all for the explanation. I just found it odd that resistance should fluctuate so much. I assumed that the resistance of a coil is the resistance of the coil, whether it be kanthal or nickel.

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[TheotherSteveS]

Thanks all for the explanation. I just found it odd that resistance should fluctuate so much. I assumed that the resistance of a coil is the resistance of the coil, whether it be kanthal or nickel.

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In the case of kanthal, you are basically right as its resistance doesnt change appreciably over a very wide temp range but other metals such as nickel, titanium and tungsten, and alloys like stainless stell and resistherm do albeit to different degrees - this is the the TCR!!

 

[TheotherSteveS]

Yea, I suck at explaining sh*t. I do understand they need a baseline. I'm just to A.D.D. to actually take the time to think about what I'm typing. Read your reply and immediately farted blood. Thanks for correcting me.

no worries. I just thought I would chime in as i think its good for folks to understand better how these things work - then they can get the best out of temp control vaping!!!

 

[vlastik63]

SnowWolf 200W is my first mod with TC.
I am a completely blown away by the functioning of the TC.
No more dry hits.
Simple setup and tastes of steam.
Found Small minuses:
Fire button should be further from the + -.
Sometimes he does not recognize the new atomizer attached.
But otherwise great satisfaction!

 

[cjpeltz]

Competeley agree with you on the closeness of the fire button to the "+" button, but I got used to it after a few days.

 

[Darkly spectr]

So something that I have always been wondering about.

do we FINALLY know who makes the snow wolf? I have seen ISK thrown around I have seen greenleaf thrown around but no definite answer

 

[jseah]

Isn't it Laisimo? That's what pops up on the screen when it starts up.

 

[Ryanmcg1]

So something that I have always been wondering about.

do we FINALLY know who makes the snow wolf? I have seen ISK thrown around I have seen greenleaf thrown around but no definite answer

I have been trying to find the answer also. Laisimo's website has recently changed a little but they was claiming they are the founder of Sigelei. There site now says, "Laisimo was founded in 2015. IDK what is going on but the Laisimo chip looks a lot like the chip in he Sig 75W, I found some say its a YIHI chip and some say its a Sigelei manufactured chip. I that's the case, Sigelei probably had the chip manufactured by Laisimo for the 75W or maybe Laisimo is a branch company of Sigelei that makes there own chios. I really don't know and I'm just speculating but I think they have some relation or just done business with eachother. If I'm completely wrong and somebody has some confirmation on Laisimo or the Sig 75W chip please chime I for inquiring minds.

One more thing I found is Laisimo's and Sigelei's Logo looks similar, Laisimo's looks like a fish but both are a blue oval with white letters in the same font. Let me look for both logos real quick.

 

[nopoison]

i lost my love affair with my snow wolf.. among other things i cant handle the wait time to vape after its been sitting for over 30 minutes.. first press tp wake it up and you have to WAIT for the logo to disappear (anoyying that i cant just do 5 clicks right from the start) then i have to do the five clicks, then the first 5 seconds of the first pull is low power until it kicks in to the set wattage.

 

[Denverizzles]

yeah the start up can be bothersome, but it's not really that big off an issue. i mean it's a couple seconds then five clicks to preserve our battery life and safety of the mod.

 

[Completely Average]

I have been trying to find the answer also. Laisimo's website has recently changed a little but they was claiming they are the founder of Sigelei. There site now says, "Laisimo was founded in 2015. IDK what is going on but the Laisimo chip looks a lot like the chip in he Sig 75W, I found some say its a YIHI chip and some say its a Sigelei manufactured chip. I that's the case, Sigelei probably had the chip manufactured by Laisimo for the 75W or maybe Laisimo is a branch company of Sigelei that makes there own chios. I really don't know and I'm just speculating but I think they have some relation or just done business with eachother. If I'm completely wrong and somebody has some confirmation on Laisimo or the Sig 75W chip please chime I for inquiring minds.

One more thing I found is Laisimo's and Sigelei's Logo looks similar, Laisimo's looks like a fish but both are a blue oval with white letters in the same font. Let me look for both logos real quick.

It's more than just the logo that looks similar. Check the display on Laisimo's new IPower 60W....

Look familiar?

 

[Mrez]

So, I have had my snow wolf for a few weeks now and I had been using Kanthal/Nichrome builds with it. I finally decided to try the temp control feature and I am a little confused about what's going on. I did a dual gauge 2.5mm 11 wrap 28 gauge tempered nickel build in my vector. My ohm meter busted so I used the internal meter on the snow wolf. I was shooting for about .07 ohm. When cold the vector reads at .05 ohm..so lower then I thought. I noticed that when firing, the resistance, temp, and wattage fluctuates quiet a bit. Is this normal? Also, does the mod automatically know when its got a temp build in it, or does it have to manually put into temp control mode (when the C/F flashes). Does the amount of wattage I'm set to make a difference when I have a nickel build in it? I also assume the temp I have it set to is the max temp so as soon as they coils get hot enough, it will cut out, is that correct?

 

[Ryanmcg1]

It's more than just the logo that looks similar. Check the display on Laisimo's new IPower 60W....


Look familiar?

I agree the screen on the 75W Sigelei definitely looks similar but a little different. The Ohm and Voltage displays side by side above the left line, The temp right under them and the Watts by itself larger on the right instead of each on have its one outline in 4 separate places.
So, do you believe like me that Sigelei either has Laisimo making the chip for them or maybe Laisimo, like their website used to say, Is the founder of Sigelei.
Probually both situations, if not there definitely associated somehow. So I wonder why Sig drop the high watt chip of the Snow Wolf to make the new 150W or didn't use the display with the larger Watts display?

 

[AtmizrOpin]

So what exactly is the difference between the Snowwolf and the Snowwolf Limited Edition? I'm thinkin I might get it but I have been hearing all the quirks and bugs in the OG Snowwolf. What did they fix?

 

[MJ.7]

what is lowest resistence the limited edition can fire at in power mod, I'm toren between this or IPV D2, I want to play with builds under 0.1 with a faster ramp up time then a mech mod.

 

[jrfhoutx]

Mrez: yes, those things will change on the display when you fire it, they're supposed to, it's normal on the SnowWolf.
The SnowWolf should detect when you've put on a new atomizer and ask you to confirm. It will then check and set the base resistance, and after a few seconds firing will determine if you're using nickel or kanthal, and should switch to the appropriate control method, 'should' being the key word. If it doesn't switch out of temp mode, you can do that manually (for kanthal builds). If you have a nickel build and it won't go into (or stay in it if you set it manually) temp mode, check the build, something is likely wrong with it.
Yes, the wattage setting does have an effect on temp control. It just determines how much power can be used to get the coils to the selected temperature.
Correct. The chip will apply power to the coils (up to the preselected wattage) until the coils heat to the selected temperature. Once the temperature is reached, the chip will adjust the power output to keep the coils at the desired temperature, using as much or as little wattage is needed (more will be applied on a fresh drip with saturated cotton, less will be applied on drier cotton).

AtmizrOpin & MJ.7: the SE has a some minor cosmetic changes, and an updated chip with a couple of added control features (and supposedly fixed some of the previous quirks), but the base specs of the chip are the same, min build resistance is still .05 (though not sure if that applies to non-temp control builds or not, I haven't built a kanthal build that low for it yet, I'm enjoying temp control too much).



Also thought I'd share this for the discussion of temp control accuracy:

I'll just leave this right here... Or SnowWolf 200W Temperature Control testing... : electronic_cigarette

 

[MJ.7]

thanks, this is the thing I want to know about still, the lowest firing resistance on regular kanthal builds.

am torn do I buy the limited edition or buy an IPV D2 and wait for the DNA 200 which will be a long wait. I need some fire power