Snow Wolf 200w With Temp Control

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.08ohm kanthal would push it into the 200W range pretty easily.

But it pulses at anything over 150W to protect the batteries, so really I would only consider it a 150W mod unless you're wanting a pulse-fire. Of course I'm buying it for the temperature control, not the high wattage. Doubt I'll be using kanthal very often once I get it.

How many Amps are drawn for .08 Ohms @ 150 Watts?
 

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With a .08 kanthal coil you're bumping in to several safety features on this mod. The amp limit is 40A which would mean your wattage would be limited to 128W and voltage to just 3.2V. Really anything below .1ohms is for temperature control builds not kanthal coils. Anything below .1ohm and you're bumping into the amp limit before you hit 150W.
 
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With a .08 kanthal coil you're bumping in to several safety features on this mod. The amp limit is 40A which would mean your wattage would be limited to 128W and voltage to just 3.2V. Really anything below .1ohms is for temperature control builds not kanthal coils. Anything below .1ohm and you're bumping into the amp limit before you hit 150W.

Yeah... Perhaps Kanthal is the Not the Best Choice in that Build you Mentioned.

Because it sounds like you are going to Need to Bump up the Ohms a Tad to get to 200w without Pushing most Batteries over the Edge.
 

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BTW - I did a Work Up for a .08 Ohm Kanthal build here.

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Sounds like you need 4 Wraps on a 3mm Diameter of 16ga Kanthal to get to your .08 Ohms.

16ga Kanthal = 1.291mm Diam Wire.

LOL

And you think that is the ONLY way you can achieve that?

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22g Kanthal. There is more than one way to build a coil.
 

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And you think that is the ONLY way you can achieve that?

I don't.

I'm just Replying to what you Posted when I asked what type of Build are people using.

.08ohm kanthal would push it into the 200W range pretty easily.

But it pulses at anything over 150W to protect the batteries, so really I would only consider it a 150W mod unless you're wanting a pulse-fire. Of course I'm buying it for the temperature control, not the high wattage. Doubt I'll be using kanthal very often once I get it.
 

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Do temperature control builds have to have spaced coils? That seems to be all that I see... Is there something wrong with wrapping builds with nickel with no spaces between the wraps?

I have used both spaced and contact coils, its hard to get a contact coil to heat even without dry fireing and messing with it, i sometimes get one or two wraps that glow red. So i do mostly spaced coils nowadays. And you shouldnt dry fire nickel.
 

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I have used both spaced and contact coils, its hard to get a contact coil to heat even without dry fireing and messing with it, i sometimes get one or two wraps that glow red. So i do mostly spaced coils nowadays. And you shouldnt dry fire nickel.

Thanks for the reply. I never dry fire nickel lol, that was the first thing I read when researching temp control. So right now, I wrap my 10 wrap 28g Ni200 coil on a 3.5mm mandrel, throw it into my magma, wick it and start vaping. No preheating or anything. So, if I were to do the same build and same process, except make it a contact coil this time... What would be different? Same difference it would make with kanthal? Or are different factors at play here? Thanks for the help, just trying to get used to this TC building.
 

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Yes, i suppose its the same as with kanthal, main advantage with contact coil with nickel is the coil lenght, 10-12 wraps becomes huge pretty fast with spaced coils. I would say stick with spaced coils for now, contact coils is just hard to get even without dry fire. Just like with kanthal, first fire up with a contact coil looks horrible, before you mess with it abit and get all wraps in contact.

And BTW, im taking i trip to the post office now!! My snow wolf 200 waiting there for me!! happy times :)) woohoo

Oh one more thing, i have had a go with twisted nickel/kanthal and that seems to work just fine with contact coil, might have been pure luck, just done one of these twisted builds, and i suppose you have to get it right and tight when wrapping, becouse of no dry fireing.
 
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Trying to compress a nickel coil together and get it to heat evenly without dry firing is nearly impossible and with nickel wire I've found it creates a hot spot that will weld itself and cause a short in the coil. I've been playing with the sx mini my friend has and TC is an interesting concept but nickel wire is a fragile wire to work with and it will take a bit to get used to wrapping it by hand and getting a nice coil.
 

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I had heard about this mod, but didn't look into it because I figured being a dual 18650, it would be huge. I stopped in a local B&M today to check out their new store front and saw one sitting in the counter. Wow, very impressed. It's a lot smaller than I thought it would be. Looks like I'm going to have to start searching for the best price. I picked up the VT-60 about a week and a half ago and ordered an SX Mini yesterday. The VT-60 is barely getting me through a day at work before needing a charge, the SX Mini was never intended for work, that one's for home. The Snow Wolf with and extra set of batteries in my bag may just do the trick
 
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Dual paralells, tiger wire, clapton coils :) Those fancy arty farty things. I will use mine for TC only so 70w max for me!

That was what I was Wondering.

Because at 200W, it seems like you would Need a Lot of Material in the Coil. Like a Twisted or Exotic Coil.
 

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I have a little treat for everyone... I opened up my Snow Wolf to see what was on the inside and figure out what this chip was once and for all... One thing, it's super clean! No gobs of super glue... It looks like these people really took their time making this mod. Everything was secured well and the tolerances were beautiful, no wobbling of anything...

The chips... The OLED screen is labeled 'TX-OLED V1.1' and the actual chip - drumroll please - is labeled 'TX-P200 V1.5A.' Has anyone heard of this chip? It makes me wonder why everyone is calling it the GX200 Smart Chip... It also seems like it is an updated version of this chip, hence the V1.5A, so is the original chip out there somewhere being used? Anyways, it's interesting for sure!

The label 'TX-P200 V1.5A' is in the bottom right corner, just to the right of the bottom-most screw hole.

Here are some photo's:

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The red circle in the photo below is where the chip label is.

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Awessome @Cullin Kin thanks so much!

So, the mystery deepens! We had no idea what "GX200 Smart Chip" was, and no we have no idea what the 'TX-P200 V1.5A' is! :D Unsurprisingly there's nothing at all on Google searching for TX-P200 V1.5A or just TX-P200.

But it's great to know, it means we can keep an eye out for that in other mod announcements and have an idea when mods are maybe using the same chip, or from the same family of chips.

I guess the Sigelei 75W will be out any day now (if it isn't already?) and I'm almost certain this has the same chip, or at least a 75W version of the same chip.
 
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