So - are we getting it or are we not - nicotine
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Back at the time that Dr. Laugesen issued his first report (January 2008), I was just starting e-smoking and using liquid from E-Cig, 24mg flue-cured tobacco. I still have an ingredient list and E-Cig liquid had "tobacco absolute". I think that's what Ruyan called tobacco extract. And tobacco absolute can be ordered and added to any e-liquid.
As I recall, tobacco absolute has no nicotine at all. It's a flavoring. Maybe DVap or a chemist can tell us exactly what's in tobacco absolute. I've meant to order some many times, but money always interferes and other items seem more urgent.
Still might be worth ordering some and adding it to my present e-liquids.
As I recall, tobacco absolute has no nicotine at all. It's a flavoring. Maybe DVap or a chemist can tell us exactly what's in tobacco absolute. I've meant to order some many times, but money always interferes and other items seem more urgent.
Still might be worth ordering some and adding it to my present e-liquids.
It might be who manufactures it??? So far, all the tobacco absolutes I've seen explicitly say "Does not contain nicotine, For Flavoring Only". Although, I've only looked up some products I've seen talked about on the forum. That's kind of limiting for true research
. No. come to think of it, I have seen at least one that did contain nic, but, dang, I can't remember what it was.Tobacco absolute is a black, tarry, smelly, viscous liquid that gives molasses in January a run for it's money.
I'll almost be willing to bet that tobacco absolute (which I have 1 mL of diluted in about 30 mL of ethanol... and wow is it strong smelling stuff) is the result of an exhaustive extraction with the alkaloids removed in a process similar to my WTA extraction. I throw away the other stuff and keep the alkaloids, they throw away the alkaloids and keep the other stuff.
Tobacco absolute is usually considered a fragrance component.
As I understand the term, it refers to an extract of tobacco from which the nicotine and presumably the other alkaloids have been removed.
While it's possible that the term has been used to describe some other preparation of tobacco, the term as generally accepted (and as I use it) refers to deactivated tobacco extract.
That is the only Tobacco Absolute I have seen described on the DIY liquid forum. So maybe a little false hope here. I guess soaking Snus might get more of what we are looking for than the flavor they get to make tobacco absolute.
Just thinkin', DVap. All that goop you threw away was probably worth a small bundle if it was put in 1ml bottles. (another V8 moment) ...Doh!!
Naw, I'll just wring out your lungs.. should be able to collect quite a bit.
Don't forget to get video!!
No need ol' pal. I can just hack some up for ya if I put my mind to itNaw, I'll just wring out your lungs.. should be able to collect quite a bit.
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Pall Mall, phooey, capstans & gauloise were a mans smoke
actually the latter made me feel like retching
Yeah, that was an awesome mule kick brass balls smoke! They literally were disgustingly good. I used to get a pack of Gauloises every week or so in my early twenties for when I wanted to knock my own socks off and for when I wanted to freak out someone who was bumming cigs too often.
Edit: My main cig at that time was Buckingham plain, pretty much the same as Pall Mall but more readily available where I was.
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You bought more than one pack of Gauloise ?,
after I tried a few I thought not doing that again.
Must be getting a bit 'early' in Nanaimo.
Wonder if there's any chance the Tobacco Absolute contains the MOAI component(s) ?
(assuming you don't have to have combustion to get them).
If so what would they be, & could you get them out.
after I tried a few I thought not doing that again.
Must be getting a bit 'early' in Nanaimo.
Wonder if there's any chance the Tobacco Absolute contains the MOAI component(s) ?
(assuming you don't have to have combustion to get them).
If so what would they be, & could you get them out.
Yes, sick as it is I bought those things much more than once.
It is definitely getting early here. I'm off to a consulting trip 3 time zones east of here with a very early flight tomorrow (today actually) and am getting myself tired enough to be able to sleep tomorrow night in EST. The tricks we learn to play... Off to bed after this post.
I'm wondering about the Tobacco Absolute too. Would like to try a WTA first if there's some way (DVap? No pressure here
Seriously though, I'm ok now with vapor + snus and personally am more curious than going crazy.) It is an interesting question whether some non-alkaloids may be a large component of all this for some people. But I think the other alkaloids are a priority as probably impacting more people, and who knows, they may be a factor in subsequent MAOI activity.
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I have 3 diff type of Tobacco Absolutes. They are all a thick green aromatic goo.
They do have a diff flavor but are very strong. It gives the harshness to e liquid like cigs has more than anything else. Rustica strain has a distinctive odor and flavor. To use it usually requires a double dilution. 2 drops in 5ml PGA (it doesnt dissolve well at all) then a drop or 2 in 10 ml of eliquid. Something like that. A little to much and its like licking an ashtray. Then you add Ethyl Maltol to try to smooth it all over. A last resort if you ask me after trying it. Its still in my flavoring area in the dark ...I'm not sure I'll be that desperate again. It can be tolerable, but tedious is being kind.
From all I read on it , its made from the dregs of the plant after they take everything they want from it. Chips, stems, pulp.... seem if its on the floor it gets processed into absolute.
Its normally made before leaves are fermented to the flavors we like, so you can imagine from there. Raw "Green" Tobacco. The highest nic level I've seen is 3%, but most sellers list thiers as 0%. If you're looking for the harshness and the nasty taste of a cig, have at it.
Personally, I'd save your money.
TV, the Flavorart flavoring I mentined is not absolute. Its an actual flavoring to be like the tasty cured tobacco. No package from Canada yet. It originated in Italy, but $30 to ship a 15ml botle was a bit steep. Happy Vapor is buying it in bulk and splitting it up in smaller quantities. I'll report on its outcome.
They do have a diff flavor but are very strong. It gives the harshness to e liquid like cigs has more than anything else. Rustica strain has a distinctive odor and flavor. To use it usually requires a double dilution. 2 drops in 5ml PGA (it doesnt dissolve well at all) then a drop or 2 in 10 ml of eliquid. Something like that. A little to much and its like licking an ashtray. Then you add Ethyl Maltol to try to smooth it all over. A last resort if you ask me after trying it. Its still in my flavoring area in the dark ...I'm not sure I'll be that desperate again. It can be tolerable, but tedious is being kind.
From all I read on it , its made from the dregs of the plant after they take everything they want from it. Chips, stems, pulp.... seem if its on the floor it gets processed into absolute.
Its normally made before leaves are fermented to the flavors we like, so you can imagine from there. Raw "Green" Tobacco. The highest nic level I've seen is 3%, but most sellers list thiers as 0%. If you're looking for the harshness and the nasty taste of a cig, have at it.
Personally, I'd save your money.
TV, the Flavorart flavoring I mentined is not absolute. Its an actual flavoring to be like the tasty cured tobacco. No package from Canada yet. It originated in Italy, but $30 to ship a 15ml botle was a bit steep. Happy Vapor is buying it in bulk and splitting it up in smaller quantities. I'll report on its outcome.
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