So how does it feel to be outcasted by even smokers!!!
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My "still smoking friends" have been pretty positive about my vaping. They still ask me to join them outside for smoke/vape breaks and just laugh when I say no, it's too cold, wet, rainy etc. I'm gonna stay INSIDE and "stealth vape" or "go to the bathroom". I think some may soon be converts to the joy of vaping....
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My family and friends have been very very supportive of my 'vaping'. My daughter even says she's proud of me! But at work....that's a different story. Most of my non-smoker friends seem ok, but usually ask me how long I will vape until I quit. (probably never). On the other hand, my smoking co-workers actually seem ANGRY that I've stopped analogs! A few have actually complained to the supervisiors how it isn't fair that I can vape and they can't smoke in the building. It doesn't seem to bother the non smokers and my boss is a non smoker so he lets me vape at my desk. Oh well, I really don't care one way or the other.
No not a vocalist either. I am not one now but was in a band back in the day. First thing I noticed when I quit smoking and started vaping was I got a full octave back. I had thought that drinking and age had taken the high notes but not so at all.
So how does it feel to be outcasted by even smokers!!!
Their loss of money and lifespan, not mine.
Well, I did lose a 3 year long gig even having the best karaoke business in the state. I believe it may have been a direct result of me vaping and everyone being so interested and liking it when they tried it. Total ignorance on the bar that let me go IMO. Could have had the best bar in the state. Instead of looking for a new gig, I've decided to quit the karaoke business and either open up my own club, or just go full throttle and open up shop selling PV's. I'm leaning toward the latter.
Their loss of money and lifespan, not mine.
Well, I did lose a 3 year long gig even having the best karaoke business in the state. I believe it may have been a direct result of me vaping and everyone being so interested and liking it when they tried it. Total ignorance on the bar that let me go IMO. Could have had the best bar in the state. Instead of looking for a new gig, I've decided to quit the karaoke business and either open up my own club, or just go full throttle and open up shop selling PV's. I'm leaning toward the latter.
Brick and mortar PV shops are a MUST! Go for it man...then franchise to Kansas so I can have a local PV shop.
Also if there were good honest Brick and Mortar PV shops...alot more people would see them and the poularity would grow.
I called alot of the smoke shops in town and found one with some no-name juice (works fine..kinda sweet) and any that sold PV's were either that expensive Smoke 51 or the smoking anywhere/everywhere knoc-offs.
Back on track, had a B-Day party for a Nephew..and buzzing on nicotine, I just had to show everyone my new E-Cig. I could tell I was blabering so much...but I honestly think the smokers were VERY intriuged.
I haven't had any of that... I still go outside with all the other smokers during smoke breaks at work, sure a couple of people may crack a couple of jokes about it, but its all in good fun 
. I don't consider myself an outcast by any means.
. I don't consider myself an outcast by any means.
Yes BohNer, the moment I tried these PV's at the mall...I envisioned myself just replaceing my cigs, as where and how I use them.
Geuss thought this thread is informative as to what to expect at times when vaping in public or arround others.
Geuss thought this thread is informative as to what to expect at times when vaping in public or arround others.
It's funny... I work at a place where change of any kind comes at a glacial pace, and yet not a single one of the smokers there have been anything but intrigued by my PV. Most have seen or heard of them (helped by the fact that there was a booth set up at the state fair not too long ago selling SE kits). The most common question is "does it work?" "can that thing really replace cigarettes?" My answer to them is "It can, if you're willing to give it an honest shot. It's really more like changing brands of cigarettes more than it is quitting." I inform them that they will end up having to fiddle with it and change how they inhale. I then inform them that I have gone from two packs a day to normally zero analogs in a day. Usually they will question this and I will reply "My intention was not to quit. Really, I just wanted to kill myself more slowly than I was. I'm still going to die, and probably from lung cancer. This way, I'll at least move the date that it happens several years further in the future." Usually people understand this when I put it to them this way.
It's funny that non smokers tend to be the most supportive of my PV. A friend of mine is asthmatic and EXTREMELY sensitive to tobacco smoke... to the point where he stands 10 to 15 feet away from me when I would smoke analogs while outside. He lets me vape in his house. My parents are supportive and proud that I've slowed down the rate of damage to my body and had me order a 510 kit for my sister to try. Almost every single person at work has commented "Did you quit smoking? You don't smell like cigarettes anymore!"
I do have to ask EVERYONE in our community to please be patient with any smokers that are being troublesome to you. If it weren't for somebody at work standing out with the rest of the smokers showing me his PV, I would still be smoking analogs (THANKS, KEVIN!). If someone that you have seen out smoking with you every day for years is suddenly gone, the assumption is that they have quit entirely, been fired, or died. If the smokers see you still out in the smoking section, but doing something different that is working for you, most will be curious. I know I was.
Anyways... enough rambling out of me for now.
It's funny that non smokers tend to be the most supportive of my PV. A friend of mine is asthmatic and EXTREMELY sensitive to tobacco smoke... to the point where he stands 10 to 15 feet away from me when I would smoke analogs while outside. He lets me vape in his house. My parents are supportive and proud that I've slowed down the rate of damage to my body and had me order a 510 kit for my sister to try. Almost every single person at work has commented "Did you quit smoking? You don't smell like cigarettes anymore!"
I do have to ask EVERYONE in our community to please be patient with any smokers that are being troublesome to you. If it weren't for somebody at work standing out with the rest of the smokers showing me his PV, I would still be smoking analogs (THANKS, KEVIN!). If someone that you have seen out smoking with you every day for years is suddenly gone, the assumption is that they have quit entirely, been fired, or died. If the smokers see you still out in the smoking section, but doing something different that is working for you, most will be curious. I know I was.
Anyways... enough rambling out of me for now.
Good rambling, I have the same motto as you.
Now back to being outcast...well the more I show it at work and talk to freinds, I am getting sceptical opinions from most, but in my work I don't have alot of free time to talk and really explain it as I would like to (there is so much to PV's right now).
I almost get the feeling some of the people from work think I am just "different" personality wise, as I am the maint guy for big office buildings.
Very good thread, great input!
I do know the day I "convert" someone and its sticks...I will be a proud man!
I have some mixed thoughts now about children seeing them now, as they all seem to think its so cool. One of my nephews said "do it again, do it again", he just thought it was the coolest thing....now the bad part, (he is 7) he wanted to try it.
Anyone with this encounter?
BTW I was in the garage showing it to some family when my nephew came in, not acctually trying to show it off to the kids.
Anyone with this encounter?
BTW I was in the garage showing it to some family when my nephew came in, not acctually trying to show it off to the kids.
Guess I'm lucky, friends-wise. Non-smoking friends all love that I'm vaping and congratulate me like I've quit smoking (which is technically true though I joke that I basically feel like I've only switched brands, it's been so easy for me. Incidentally, I'm a 2-pack-a-day full-flavor 100mm smoker for 40+years, when I tell you it's been not only painless but fun to switch to vaping.)
Non-smokers (so far) have NEVER brought up the old, "but you're still on nicotine" negativity. Then again, I don't have people like that it my life anyway -- who're always trying to discount whatever you do or achieve, big or small. Bores.
My smoking friends ALSO love that I'm vaping and are intrigued and full of questions and beginning to take it seriously, now that I've had such an easy time of quitting smoking (not one analog since I got my V4L kit over a month ago -- and haven't even wanted one). They know what a heavy smoker I was. Their smoking with me or in groups doesn't bother me in the least.
I'm not germophobic, so I'm happy to give people a puff or two if they're interested. That, plus talking about the cost savings and the flavors, seems to sell them on e-cigs. Then I send them to ECF to research everything and from there they're on their on.
I've only been vaping a little over a month, but NO negative reactions from anybody anywhere -- even in restaurants, department stores, etc. (Of course, in those settings I'm not making ostentatious displays of vapors, either. Just inhaling a puff now and then, letting it disappear inside me. If anything, I guess, strangers and store managers might subliminally think I'm using an asthma inhaler or something. I've actually vaped and had people at the same restaurant table not even notice I'm doing it.)
Good luck and enjoy!
Non-smokers (so far) have NEVER brought up the old, "but you're still on nicotine" negativity. Then again, I don't have people like that it my life anyway -- who're always trying to discount whatever you do or achieve, big or small. Bores.
My smoking friends ALSO love that I'm vaping and are intrigued and full of questions and beginning to take it seriously, now that I've had such an easy time of quitting smoking (not one analog since I got my V4L kit over a month ago -- and haven't even wanted one). They know what a heavy smoker I was. Their smoking with me or in groups doesn't bother me in the least.
I'm not germophobic, so I'm happy to give people a puff or two if they're interested. That, plus talking about the cost savings and the flavors, seems to sell them on e-cigs. Then I send them to ECF to research everything and from there they're on their on.
I've only been vaping a little over a month, but NO negative reactions from anybody anywhere -- even in restaurants, department stores, etc. (Of course, in those settings I'm not making ostentatious displays of vapors, either. Just inhaling a puff now and then, letting it disappear inside me. If anything, I guess, strangers and store managers might subliminally think I'm using an asthma inhaler or something. I've actually vaped and had people at the same restaurant table not even notice I'm doing it.)
Good luck and enjoy!
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