I'm fairly sure I already did explain and you've done a pretty good job yourself. You've repeatedly violated many laws, unpaid tickets. Not to mention, the way you talk about your superiority with your "friends in high places". It sounds like you have a serious problem.
So I get pulled over on my way home.....
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I'm fairly sure I already did explain and you've done a pretty good job yourself. You've repeatedly violated many laws, unpaid tickets. Not to mention, the way you talk about your superiority with your "friends in high places". It sounds like you have a serious problem.
Um, helloo..destruction of personal property? I dont care how long it takes..I would file a complaint..don't let him get away with that..
Im ...... cuz I got pulled over the other day for running a red light a couple of days ago..I havent been pulled over in 10 yrs! I was turning left and the light was orange..I crossed the line before it turned red..so why the heck am I stuck with a $215 ticket?
Are we not allowed to cross the line if its orange?
UMMM if I had unpaid tickets i would be getting stopped for a bench warrant not for noise. and i would not get away with a citation i would be in jail. When an officer fails to appear for a court appearance the charges on the ticket are dismissed. So by them not appearing they are the ones "picking fights"
oh and most of the time it is not my car as i typically listen to talk radio.
and i do not ever mention friends in high places they specifically asked me if i new any members of law enforcement. was i supposed to lie to a police officer
and as I said i drive around town at various times during the day withing their jurisdiction they have watched me pass them in daylight without even a second glance. why won't they ticket me for a tint violation during the day?
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no - I'm not a cop - Do I look like a cop? - LOL - I still say that what the cop did was wrong - I'm not arguing with you about that - But - With everything else you have said it is clear that you provoked him - Not with discourteous words or actions on this day - But with continually refusing to correct the violations you keep getting stopped for - You admit your music is too loud - You admit your tint is too dark - You just want to argue and buck the cop's authority as well as question his eyes and ears - Go ahead press for your day in court about your music and your tint - it will not go well for you - You are in violation - The burden of proof is not on the cops it is on you - Like I said - What do you plan to say in court?
"Well - Yes Your Honor - My tint is not within the legal limit and I play my music at volumes which exceed local ordinances - I just don't think the officer is smart enough to know where sounds come from nor is he fit to judge what dark is!" - ??????? -
If you do get in - Let me know - I wanna see that - Should be hilarious to hear what the judge has to say in return - It would be very different if your tint was legal and your radio was quiet - You have NO CASE on the tint and sound issue other than to question the sight and hearing of the cop - If it was one time perhaps you may have some chance - But you say they pull you over for this 2 times per month - At this point you are baiting them - And BTW cops often do not show up in court - It's not about you - They just don't like court - They do however know that you are questioning their judgment every time they stop you - That is provocative - They may well start to stop you 4 times per month at this rate -
You just said the first wise thing I have heard from you - It would indeed cost you thousands to get $55.00 - Good to know you know when to let some battles rest - But that one at least had legal merit -
My tint is dark but it was also purchased in June of 2005 when there was no laws in my area governing tint limits so with the paper work i have on when the car was purchased and the photos the insurance company took on the date of purchase my tint is in fact in violation of current laws but i am protected by the lack of an ordinance at the time the vehicle was purchased so i am not breaking any laws.
http://www.tintcenter.com/laws/GA/
http://home.pcisys.net/~bpc/auto_law/tint/
http://www.tintcenter.com/laws/GA/
http://home.pcisys.net/~bpc/auto_law/tint/
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Should i pay a violation when no law has been broken? the music violation just happens to piggy back on the charges
Wow, just wow. My husband is a cop, a Federal Police Officer. There are many bad cops out there, there are many good cops out there. There are many cops, both good and bad who are always aware of potential problems and problem people. I hope my husband never comes into contact with you.
Bones, thank you.
Bones, thank you.
Bubba, there's no way I can answer that unless I really knew the whole story and knew this person who started this thread. I'm sorry.
I can sympathize with him, and this is why.
I'm 22 years old, caucasian, with medium length hair down to my eyes up front, below my chin in the back, a full beard and mustache.
I'm sure you're already painting a picture for yourselves, but let me clear this up before I get to my story. I smokED cigarettes, and I have the occasional series of drinks, but I have NEVER, and will never do drugs. No, not even pot.
I've been pulled over no less than 7 times and released without a ticket, ready for this? In the past two years.
Why?
Because there is a road on the way home from my girlfriend of four years' home that so happens to skirt past a high-crime/drug area (Paterson, NJ). Every time I have been pulled over they have done one or more of the following: refused to tell me why they have pulled me over, asked me if I was buying drugs (BEFORE allowing me to at least offer an explanation as to my business in the area), LIED about me having a busted brakelight, used superficial reasons to substantiate the traffic stop (sticker in the back window, air freshener on the rearview mirror, etc)
Now I do NOT blast music, OR have a sporty car, (I drive a 1998 Chevy Malibu. not exactly a tuner, if you know what I mean) or have tints or anything illegal on or about my car. I rarely speed (was not a factor in any of these said stops, in fact one officer told me he pulled me over because I was driving "nervously" [AKA 5 below the limit])
Why have I been pulled over? (finally)
They think I'm (of course) buying drugs in Paterson. The way the roads work out it looks like I'm leaving Paterson when I was never there to begin with. They just enjoy pulling over a white kid using false purposes to initiate a stop, hoping they will make a hit. I even had one officer who refused to believe I have never done drugs. It was almost to the point where I was ready to ask him if he did marijuana.. (I would never, I always cooperate and am very polite and respectful of officers wherever possible)
BTW the thought that generated this entire post was that I would ALWAYS light a cigarette as i was being pulled over to calm my nerves (Police in general tend to make me a little "too" nervous. I guess it stems from hearing stories about officers pulling a fast one and plating stuff to gain an arrest idk. Never once did an officer order me to put out my cigarette, let alone rip it out of my mouth. I wish you luck in your efforts to garner reimbursement, but as was previously stated by others, I wouldn't exactly hold my breath...
I'm 22 years old, caucasian, with medium length hair down to my eyes up front, below my chin in the back, a full beard and mustache.
I'm sure you're already painting a picture for yourselves, but let me clear this up before I get to my story. I smokED cigarettes, and I have the occasional series of drinks, but I have NEVER, and will never do drugs. No, not even pot.
I've been pulled over no less than 7 times and released without a ticket, ready for this? In the past two years.
Why?
Because there is a road on the way home from my girlfriend of four years' home that so happens to skirt past a high-crime/drug area (Paterson, NJ). Every time I have been pulled over they have done one or more of the following: refused to tell me why they have pulled me over, asked me if I was buying drugs (BEFORE allowing me to at least offer an explanation as to my business in the area), LIED about me having a busted brakelight, used superficial reasons to substantiate the traffic stop (sticker in the back window, air freshener on the rearview mirror, etc)
Now I do NOT blast music, OR have a sporty car, (I drive a 1998 Chevy Malibu. not exactly a tuner, if you know what I mean) or have tints or anything illegal on or about my car. I rarely speed (was not a factor in any of these said stops, in fact one officer told me he pulled me over because I was driving "nervously" [AKA 5 below the limit])
Why have I been pulled over? (finally)
They think I'm (of course) buying drugs in Paterson. The way the roads work out it looks like I'm leaving Paterson when I was never there to begin with. They just enjoy pulling over a white kid using false purposes to initiate a stop, hoping they will make a hit. I even had one officer who refused to believe I have never done drugs. It was almost to the point where I was ready to ask him if he did marijuana.. (I would never, I always cooperate and am very polite and respectful of officers wherever possible)
BTW the thought that generated this entire post was that I would ALWAYS light a cigarette as i was being pulled over to calm my nerves (Police in general tend to make me a little "too" nervous. I guess it stems from hearing stories about officers pulling a fast one and plating stuff to gain an arrest idk. Never once did an officer order me to put out my cigarette, let alone rip it out of my mouth. I wish you luck in your efforts to garner reimbursement, but as was previously stated by others, I wouldn't exactly hold my breath...
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Do you think I would pose a threat to your husband? If so you are mistaken I have never even acted as though I would harm a police officer I am only inquisitive. I want explanations and at the time of the stop the officers would not answer my questions? so what other recourse do I have?
VaporNebula--
Sorry man, you deserved it. I've been convinced now. You didn't break any laws, and the cop shouldn't have assaulted you.... but you deserved it.
No, I don't know why.
Your kind of "iffy", you know what I mean?
Your kind should know how to behave.. whatever your kind is, that is. We're not sure what your up to, but we know your up to something.
Its like those girls who dress all slutty like, they deserve what they get.. right? I mean, its wrong an all for a guy to take advantage of a girl, but hey, if she "seems" iffy, well she deserved it..
We don;t need evidence, and we don;t need laws... All we need are cops. They'll take care of you. I mean, if he did it, he must've had a reason right? Its not like power goes to peoples heads.. that never happens. You see, its up to you to Prove you Innocence. Thats in the constitution.. guilty until proven innocent, or somesuch..We the People don't really bother with details like that...
So whatever, you did something to deserve it. He was wrong, but you deserved it..
Thus speaketh the People. In the Land of Scared and Sheep. Now get back in line, or we'll cattle prod you. And next time, when a cop, or any authority figure walks by you, you genuflect, and bow, and curtsy, and pucker up, and kneel.. This is America, damn it!
Sorry man, you deserved it. I've been convinced now. You didn't break any laws, and the cop shouldn't have assaulted you.... but you deserved it.
No, I don't know why.
Your kind of "iffy", you know what I mean?
Your kind should know how to behave.. whatever your kind is, that is. We're not sure what your up to, but we know your up to something.
Its like those girls who dress all slutty like, they deserve what they get.. right? I mean, its wrong an all for a guy to take advantage of a girl, but hey, if she "seems" iffy, well she deserved it..
We don;t need evidence, and we don;t need laws... All we need are cops. They'll take care of you. I mean, if he did it, he must've had a reason right? Its not like power goes to peoples heads.. that never happens. You see, its up to you to Prove you Innocence. Thats in the constitution.. guilty until proven innocent, or somesuch..We the People don't really bother with details like that...
So whatever, you did something to deserve it. He was wrong, but you deserved it..
Thus speaketh the People. In the Land of Scared and Sheep. Now get back in line, or we'll cattle prod you. And next time, when a cop, or any authority figure walks by you, you genuflect, and bow, and curtsy, and pucker up, and kneel.. This is America, damn it!
Well, as a fellow "tuner" I have a bit of "insight" for some of you.
Tint laws are pointless. BECAUSE there is no way, in the field, to tell how dark the tint is. Tint laws are based on percent of light let into the vehicle through the tinted windows. This is done at the tint shop prior to being applied. HOWEVER the cops usually try to ticket any car with tint that they have ever stopped. INCLUDING me and a number of my car friends. The best response to this is to show them they receipt from the tint shop stating what tint percent it is. Then, usually in a huff, they say its still to dark and that you should have it removed but they LAWFULLY can't ticket you for it. (Although this does not mean that they won't try.)
They do the same thing with loud music. There is a decibel level limit, which like speed limits, is aloud up to that number. HOWEVER there is NO WAY to test this in field. So, again, documentation is recommended. They tried to ticket my friend in Iowa for music when his system is 100% stock and is lots lower then the legal decibel limit.
Exhaust systems should not be loud enough to cause alarm, unless you have the Folgers Fart Can which just absolutely screams. Buy a silencer.
POINT OF THIS: Cops like to harass and collect, not serve and protect. They will write you tickets for anything and everything they can, because that's their job it seems anymore. I have no respect for them anymore, no offense. Even on non-violating issues (I called them once to settle a fight I was getting in at a parking lot. This woman hit my car with her door and I just wanted her to pay for it, seeing as it was BRAND NEW, under a week old...) and the cop immediately took her side because she was 50 something and I looked like a kid. It pisses me off, and I'm tired of it.
Dude, I hope you ream the guy- and the department. I hope you get both him and his supervisor fired. You don't treat people like that, you don't harass them, and you don't destroy their personal property. Peace officers, if you can even still call them that, are nothing more then big bullies with big sticks. They deserve to be reminded that they can't do what ever they want to us, we have rights as citizens.
And a word of advice, if you have any documentation regarding your tint, sound system, and exhaust I'd put it in your car, stating that it is infact in legal limits. Then they really can't do anything to you about it.
Tint laws are pointless. BECAUSE there is no way, in the field, to tell how dark the tint is. Tint laws are based on percent of light let into the vehicle through the tinted windows. This is done at the tint shop prior to being applied. HOWEVER the cops usually try to ticket any car with tint that they have ever stopped. INCLUDING me and a number of my car friends. The best response to this is to show them they receipt from the tint shop stating what tint percent it is. Then, usually in a huff, they say its still to dark and that you should have it removed but they LAWFULLY can't ticket you for it. (Although this does not mean that they won't try.)
They do the same thing with loud music. There is a decibel level limit, which like speed limits, is aloud up to that number. HOWEVER there is NO WAY to test this in field. So, again, documentation is recommended. They tried to ticket my friend in Iowa for music when his system is 100% stock and is lots lower then the legal decibel limit.
Exhaust systems should not be loud enough to cause alarm, unless you have the Folgers Fart Can which just absolutely screams. Buy a silencer.
POINT OF THIS: Cops like to harass and collect, not serve and protect. They will write you tickets for anything and everything they can, because that's their job it seems anymore. I have no respect for them anymore, no offense. Even on non-violating issues (I called them once to settle a fight I was getting in at a parking lot. This woman hit my car with her door and I just wanted her to pay for it, seeing as it was BRAND NEW, under a week old...) and the cop immediately took her side because she was 50 something and I looked like a kid. It pisses me off, and I'm tired of it.
Dude, I hope you ream the guy- and the department. I hope you get both him and his supervisor fired. You don't treat people like that, you don't harass them, and you don't destroy their personal property. Peace officers, if you can even still call them that, are nothing more then big bullies with big sticks. They deserve to be reminded that they can't do what ever they want to us, we have rights as citizens.
And a word of advice, if you have any documentation regarding your tint, sound system, and exhaust I'd put it in your car, stating that it is infact in legal limits. Then they really can't do anything to you about it.
You know, theres a lot wrong with what you just said. And I'm really NOT okay with your quip about the "slutty" girls. Thats just... its so wrong. I bet you'd be singing a whole different story if that happened to one of your sisters, daughters, or best friends. And if you do really think thats true then you think that one of my high school friends had her murder comming to her because she dressed a little "slutty" that night? HUH????
And if you've been harassed by cops like some of us have, you might be singing a diffrent tune yourself.
Zero7- That was my point- I was being snarky. I know better, but I couldn't resist. I was making fun and showing how the thought process is that allows people to think its OK to harass someone just because they don;t behave "appropriately".
I agree with you completely. Sorry if my snark wasnt clear enough.
I agree with you completely. Sorry if my snark wasnt clear enough.
I am just shocked how easy it is for the people to gang against the guy just because he might be outside of some norm or trouble-maker.
Of course, when someone points at us because we are smokers or vapers and should just stop the filthy habit, well, we have the right to be "unconventional". Enjoying a smoke/vape is not the same as when someone enjoys loud music, or when someone tints their car windows bloody orange or what not.
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