So I saw the Marlboro mark 10...

[Israfil]

Watched a video on youtube on the marl mk10. I'm not sure what they were talking about when they said they're tamper resistant, but they sure appear to have taken an old Carto, set up their own threading, and sold it as a new product. I wonder if mk10 is a nod to 510. Don't know really, thinking of using one of their free coupons just to have one to mess around with.

Appears refillable, seems to produce next to no vapor so maybe a good stealth vape (though I doubt it'd come close to satisfying my needs), and generally should be amusing to tinker with.

I just can't wrap my head around it. Why on earth would they release something that's about 5 years behind the times? I'd think they would want to be on the bleeding edge so they could compete with the more hardcore side of things and actually make some money.

Thoughts?

 

[James Wilson]

Mark Ten sucks. I tried them about a year ago they they turned me off vapes for a while. The only cigalike I really have any respect for is the Vuse. While those aren't as good as what I got now they made me believe I could get off analogs. Mark Ten did the opposite.

 

[Smann245]

I read tamper resistant to mean non-serviceable. In other words disposable. Of course it is. I'm done with big tobacco.

 

[Israfil]

Hmm... Dunno. I'm honestly just trying to figure out why they're so behind the times. Maybe we here are just way ahead?

 

[Nightshard]

Tamper resistant is just a nicer way of saying idiot proof.

 

[bluecat]

Not sure what you mean by behind the times? Unless your talking about the "advanced" devices.

For a cigalike, it is what it is. Be real, we are in a state of normalcy in vaping. Nothing groundbreaking has been out in a while. It is all a rehash in a different "box".

Maybe the 4 draw technology is revolutionary.

 

[twgbonehead]

Tamper resistant is just a nicer way of saying idiot proof.

I believe "Tamper Resistant" is a euphemism for "non-refillable".

 

[Nightshard]

On one hand they are showing signs of panic, on the other they don't want a product that is as good or will be able to replace their main product.
It's meant to hook non smoker/vapers on nic and then have them pass to the "real thing".
Makes all the sense in the world now, doesn't it?

 

[VMole]

You can refill them by popping off the cap on the mouth piece. They are rechargable. My mod broke and I bought one to "get me by" while waiting for my new one. It barely lived up to that expectation. Battery lasted about 30 minutes and charged for two hours.. The original tobacco flavor tasted nothing like tobacco, more like roasted aluminum can. Garbage compared to any ego carto setup.

 

[James Wilson]

Hmm... Dunno. I'm honestly just trying to figure out why they're so behind the times. Maybe we here are just way ahead?

Mark ten's are so bad they have someone come into gas stations to try to give them away. lol. It's not that they are behind on the times. It is more so they are desperate to make extra money. They see they are slowly losing their hold on people. So they are expanding to this. But they are also pushing for tougher laws on vapes so that they can try to control the market. The problem with many of these cigalikes though is their actual cost. Yeah some taste bad. Some are decent but way too expensive to buy. The reason they jack up the prices is to take advantage of newer vapors who don't know there are better options out there. I am actually in the process of writing up something comparing these. Price wise and stuff. I haven't tried a lot. But I figured it would be interesting to compare different ciglikes to each other in what they offer vs good vaporizers.

 

[Smann245]

If they don't sell something disposable, what are they going to sell? Marlboro mods and atomizers? Marlboro ejuice? They know they can't compete in that market and they need you to keep coming back. Their only option in the ecig industry is something disposable. They want the DIY community and businesses that support us shut down so they are the only market for all things ecig. If they stepped out of the cig-alike box even a little, their argument against advanced equipment would be gone.

 

[nyiddle]

I knew it was bad when Marlboro sent me a thing in the mail saying I could get a "starter kit" for free.

Most cig-alikes are just terrible. I had a Blu several years ago and that never helped me even come close to kicking analogs.

 

[jdrewry]

...Maybe we here are just way ahead?

Yes, we are.

 

[Millah]

Hmm... Dunno. I'm honestly just trying to figure out why they're so behind the times. Maybe we here are just way ahead?

Honestly, what do you expect from Big Tobacco? To put out a mod and rebuildable atomizer system that they can sell in gas stations and 7-11s? Complete mismatch for their target audience. They want to get current smokers who are considering vaping, to get one of their products so they still get their money. Those kind of people are going to be looking at cigalikes from convenient stores, and aren't going to be searching online for mods and RDAs.

It is what it is, a simple basic disposable cigalike. Thats the kind of product a newbie vapor is going to first consider flirting with vaping. BT specialty is in growing and producing tobacco products. Their specialty isn't in electrical engineering and mechanical engineering and machining stainless steel products. I'm not sure why you'd expect them to come out with anything more than a simple cigalike.

 

[skoony]

Hmm... Dunno. I'm honestly just trying to figure out why they're so behind the times. Maybe we here are just way ahead?

they aren't behind the times.
there response to the FDA's proposed deeming regs as much stated that tamper
proof carto's are the way to go as a way to control the manufacturing process
from start to finish and comply with FDA regulations of said e-cigs.
in other words they are telling the FDA what to do to hand the whole thing
to them.

as a side note check into the news and media forum regularly.
its a good all around source to keep up on current political and
regulatory info concerning us vapers.
FDA regulations and the legislative news should be checked on once
in a while too.there are a lot of things going on that some people don't
seem to be aware of.
regards
mike

 

[Israfil]

Heh, makes sense. Looking forward to seeing that comparison of the Cigalikes, Probably be a great thing for new vapers or people who want a backup/small kit for places that a larger mod is impractical.

Edit: Millah, I'd expect more of them mostly because they have more money than god....lol I figure if they can't figure out how to make the best cigalike (at the very least) with all that cash to throw at the problem then I'm not sure anyone can.

 

[skoony]

If they don't sell something disposable, what are they going to sell? Marlboro mods and atomizers? Marlboro ejuice? They know they can't compete in that market and they need you to keep coming back. Their only option in the ecig industry is something disposable. They want the DIY community and businesses that support us shut down so they are the only market for all things ecig. If they stepped out of the cig-alike box even a little, their argument against advanced equipment would be gone.

they are not out to compete.
they are out to eliminate the competition.
see my above post
regards
mike

 

[vapero]

Not sure what you mean by behind the times? Unless your talking about the "advanced" devices.

For a cigalike, it is what it is. Be real, we are in a state of normalcy in vaping. Nothing groundbreaking has been out in a while. It is all a rehash in a different "box".

Maybe the 4 draw technology is revolutionary.

the eRoll is much more ahead of times than the mark10 in regards of a cigalike

 

[Smann245]

they are not out to compete.
they are out to eliminate the competition.
see my above post
regards
mike

That's what I just said.

 

[Yopa]

The Mark 10 was an awful product, and it seemed like everyone knew it. The tobacco store across from my work gave me one for free. I went over for a coffee and he knew I vaped. So he just gave me one. he said nobody was buying them and the feedback was bad. I tried it and it tasted like one of the cheapest products I had used.