So let me tell you about this little single coil RM3 Rob built.

[pennysmalls]

The version of the A6 Rob uses has 3 posts. The single or dual coil setup just depends on either 1 hole in the top cap or 2. There are not 2 different deck configurations on the RM3s.

I've used both versions of A6 not supplied by Rob and I can tell you one reason he does it that way. The 3 post version of the A6 seems to be much higher quality than the 2 post versions that I've used. I've had 2 of them and both of them ended up with issues. The 3 post versions just seem to be built better. The only thing I can figure is that they are made by 2 different companies. It's hard to tell because neither of the A6s I've purchased have the manufacture's name on them.

When it comes to deciding between the single or dual RM3 it's just going to depend if you are a mouth to lung vaper that likes single coils or wants to up the heat and vapor with a dual coil setup. If you are a direct to lung vaper then go with the RM4 or RM5. Mouth to lung hitters are going to have a hard time getting a good vape with the larger chamber and air holes of the 4 or 5. Mouth to lung'ers are better off with the RM2 or RM3.

At least that has been my experience and my opinion.

I'm so glad you posted this. I don't remember reading about the mouth to lung versus the straight to lung aspect in other threads I've read about the different atties. I'm a mouth to lung vaper so what you've shared is important to me. Thanks Ken, very helpful info!

 

[REDFISHIN]

I have the RM3 single coil version running at 1.2ohm and the vapor and flavor are awesome. I am a mouth to lung vaper also. The RM3 may even be better than the RM2, although that may change when I recoil the RM2, as I haver never gone below 1.5ohm on the RM2.

 

[pennysmalls]

I think I know what I want now. The dual coil RM3. I really gotta see what dual coils are like.

 

[thewomenfolk]

If you are a direct to lung vaper then go with the RM4 or RM5. Mouth to lung hitters are going to have a hard time getting a good vape with the larger chamber and air holes of the 4 or 5. Mouth to lung'ers are better off with the RM2 or RM3.

I don't understand...if I'm direct to lung vapor go with RM4 or RM5 but mouth to lung (same thing?) are going to have a hard time getting a good vape with the 4 or 5? Please explain.

I've found something that works better for the sizzle pop...using the ultra-cheap FT NR-R-NR pre-made coils 1.8 ohm. The flavor is always good no matter the coil build but I'm getting some noise now. It's a more powerful vape too. That's good.

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

I think I know what I want now. The dual coil RM3. I really gotta see what dual coils are like.

It's a goodie. I've been vaping on it exclusively for 10 days now. I've even packed up my RM2's (which I never would have thought possible).

With dual coils (I run them at net .4 ohms), the thing just rocks.

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

I don't understand...if I'm direct to lung vapor go with RM4 or RM5 but mouth to lung (same thing?) are going to have a hard time getting a good vape with the 4 or 5? Please explain.

Direct to lung just means that you draw the vapor using your diaphragm to pull the vaper straight through the mouth and into your lungs. Without wishing to pivot the thread into another (potentially undesirable) direction, this is how most people use non-tobacco products (wacky tobacco, if you know what I mean) or shisha.

Mouth to lung means using your cheeks to pull the vapor into your mouth first, and then your diaphragm to pull the vapor into your lungs. This is how most people smoke cigarettes.

A lot of large volume atties, like the RM4 and RM5, are more suited for the direct lung style of inhaling - they produce a volume of vapor that's quite airy and generally more pleasant that way. I find them too airy (wispy) as I prefer mouth to lung inhaling.

Hope that helps some.

 

[sbmqcy]

Re: the crackling.

Haven't researched this a bunch, but it seems to me to be much more dependent on my juices than anything else. For example, Johnson creek juices always, always, sizzle and crackle for me, to the point that my wicks were scorching quickly. But I have seen more juices crackle and pop on twisted or Mundy builds than on single strand micros.

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[Kentastic]

Direct to lung just means that you draw the vapor using your diaphragm to pull the vaper straight through the mouth and into your lungs. Without wishing to pivot the thread into another (potentially undesirable) direction, this is how most people use non-tobacco products (wacky tobacco, if you know what I mean) or shisha.

Mouth to lung means using your cheeks to pull the vapor into your mouth first, and then your diaphragm to pull the vapor into your lungs. This is how most people smoke cigarettes.

A lot of large volume atties, like the RM4 and RM5, are more suited for the direct lung style of inhaling - they produce a volume of vapor that's quite airy and generally more pleasant that way. I find them too airy (wispy) as I prefer mouth to lung inhaling.

Hope that helps some.

^^^ What Papa said. Direct to lung suckers... hehe find that too small of air holes in their top caps make it almost impossible to get a good vape out of. Feels like sucking a golf ball through a garden hose (to use a famous euphemism), because they are also getting their oxygen when they suck the vapor directly into their lungs. Whereas the mouth to lung suckers really hate an airy draw because you are trying to fill your mouth up with vapor before sucking it into your lungs and you run out of room in your mouth before getting enough vapor and flavor to feel like you've got a good vape.

My personal preference confuses matters because I'm now pretty much doing both. I start off the day with mouth to lung vapes like if I was smoking a cigarette. I want to fill my mouth up with vapor.... but as the day goes on I slowly become unsatisfied with the amount of vapor I'm getting and end up switching over to a different Reo with an RM4 on it which allows me to suck the vapor directly into my lungs and blow out much larger clouds of vapor. I like both experiences, and it seems to work for me. I've tried going all day with just mouth to lung hits and I end up with a headache because by the end of the day I'm sucking as hard as I can trying to get more.... but on the flip side if I wake up in the morning and try and take a puff off my RM4 set to the largest air holes with .4 ohm dual coils blazing away, I cough my lungs out like I was still smoking. So do whatever works for you. This currently works for me.

later,
Ken

 

[Henry Etta]

This is one of my favorites and I think if you coud get the right build into it you would love it. What's not working for you so we can try to help out.

I think, in part, I can't get the draw just right. I do mouth to lung hits & really like the draw on the stock RM3. I tried raising up the coils and closing the AFC down to just little slivers and that really helped, but after having the RM3 (and now the Reactor, with the second hole drilled out to 1/32) I like those better. I really like the idea of AFC rings, and may explore different builds (lower ohms? higher coils? etc.) to see if I can get it right... any advice would be helpful to most people here, I'd think. But I am really happy with the atties I have set up at the moment.

 

[Marc411]

Thanks Guys!! I googled the A6 and saw one that had two posts.

Where is the juice hole located on the RM3? Is it between the posts or pointing out?

olefolks, Rob has it nicely tucked away pointing almost directly at the negative post to ensure juice covers the deck properly.

 

[thewomenfolk]

Oh, I didn't see any difference between 'mouth to' lung and 'direct to' lung. Because they both start at the mouth. Thanks for the clarification.

I just put tons of cotton in my RM2 using NR-R-NR 1.5 ohm FT pre-coiled wire, even tucking the cotton under the coil and now I'm getting lots of hits off one squonk. And good vapor. So, I guess it pays to use the NR-R-NR wire and a little thicker cotton than I'd been using and tucking it all over the ceramic but avoiding the hole. Now I'm getting what I'd been trying to get with the Grand and Mini too. Yahoo!

So, what difference do you guys see between using a 1.5 ohm vs 1.8 coil? Will I get less power with the 1.8 ohm? Does it get hotter and use up more juice with the 1.5?

P.S. I appreciate all your input!

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

Glad you got your build sorted out to your liking - it's such a versatile platform.

As far as the coil resistances go, yup, the lower the resistance the hotter the coil will get and the more juice you will consume.

 

[muzichead]

I will weigh in on the each of the topics that are being tossed around here. I am a mouth to lung kind of guy myself...

I have the Atomic that I modded myself about 2 months ago and at first really didn't like it at all because it was just too much airflow. I then tried it out in single coil mode using the 1/16" air hole and found it to be quite good. I would say not too far behind my Cyclone in single coil mode. Then I got to thinking and with the AFC ring still in place for the single 1/16" hole, I drilled a hole in the opposite side with the AFC as a guide. Now I only do dual coil in it and the draw on it seems perfect for mouth to lung hits...

As to the "sizzle / crackle" effect I have found the wicking to play a larger part than the way or how the coil is built. I find that cotton or mesh sizzle a lot, but I vape 99% of the time with READYxWICK and have found the sizzle is not so much... I just redid the Atomic today w/ 27g 1/16" 9 wrap dual .48Ω and my RSST with a single coil 27g SS rope / mesh 3/4 wrap .7Ω sizzles and crackles twice as much...

 

[thewomenfolk]

Yes, I think the cotton is a good sizzler. And adding more means less squonking.

 

[MamaTried]

My personal preference confuses matters because I'm now pretty much doing both. I start off the day with mouth to lung vapes like if I was smoking a cigarette. I want to fill my mouth up with vapor.... but as the day goes on I slowly become unsatisfied with the amount of vapor I'm getting and end up switching over to a different Reo with an RM4 on it which allows me to suck the vapor directly into my lungs and blow out much larger clouds of vapor. I like both experiences, and it seems to work for me.

later,
Ken

out of curiosity what nic level? do you vary it between MTL and lung hitting?

 

[a wandering soul]

After I catch hubby online shopping for something and with a lil' encouragement to treat himself to something nice, I just may.

That's crafty and devious... I like it!

Via a possessed phone thats autocorrect is just silly

 

[Kentastic]

out of curiosity what nic level? do you vary it between MTL and lung hitting?

I'm pretty much use 6mg for both, but if I do have 3mg it goes in the Reos with the larger dual coil atomizers for lung hits. I just went down from 12mg and still have a few stray bottles here and there. Took me a few weeks to figure out that 12mg was too high of nic for me. I was starting to cough every time I did any kind of lung hit and was thinking I'd have to force myself to only do mouth to lung, but then realized that the 12mg was just too strong. I did fine with 6 or 3mg. I keep the 12mg around for emergency "I want a cigarette" times, but those are happening less and less as time goes on. My body must be getting used to the lower nic levels.