So......What else do I need?

[Keithhe]

I recognize that this may be a little overkill, for first time DIY, but what else do I need? I know I'm fine on flavors, base, probably glassware, but for measuring things, and or mixing. Note I have the glass syringes in glassware section, below, but pretty sure I need other measuring things still. If you have a vendor for any suggestions, please let me know, as I've had a hard time finding generic names I find in threads.

Also, given flavors I have and they are a mixture of regular and super concentrated, is there a calculator to deal with this?

Last, given flavors I have, any good receipes I can start with? Plan to start simple mixes, small batch, until I get the hang of this. My tastes are all over the place, mostly non tobacco, but tend to jump through 5-6 vendor mixes a day, so can't stay long on any one thing.


Thanks !!

Date	Vendor	Product	Model	Qty Ml	Units	Qty	Unit Price	Total
						904
		FLAVOR STUFF
15-Apr	Wizard	Absinthe Concentrate (TFA)	FL-TFA-ABSINTHE	8	4	32	$1.49	$5.96
15-Apr	Wizard	Apple Candy Concentrate (TFA)	FL-TFA-APPLE-CANDY	8	4	32	$1.49	$5.96
15-Apr	Wizard	Apple Concentrate (TFA)	FL-TFA-APPLE	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Banana Cream Concentrate (TFA)	FL-TFA-BANANA-CREAM	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Black Cherry (TFA)	FL-TFA-BLACK-CHERRY	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Blackberry (TFA)	FL-TFA-BLACKBERRY	8	4	32	$1.49	$5.96
15-Apr	Wizard	Boysenberry (TFA)	FL-TFA-BOYSENBERY	8	4	32	$1.49	$5.96
15-Apr	Wizard	Bubblegum (TFA)	FL-TFA-BUBBLEGUM	8	3	24	$1.49	$4.47
15-Apr	Wizard	Butterscotch (TFA)	FL-TFA-BUTRSCH	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Caramel Original (TFA)	FL-TFA-CARAMEL-ORIGINAL	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Cinnamon Natural Concentrate (TFA)	FL-TFA-CINNAMON-NAT	8	4	32	$1.49	$5.96
15-Apr	Wizard	Coconut Extra Concentrate (TFA)	FL-TFA-COCONUT-EXTRA	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Cotton Candy (TFA)	FL-TFA-COTTON-CANDY	8	8	64	$1.49	$11.92
15-Apr	Wizard	County Fair Cotton Candy Concentrate (LA)	FL-LA-COTTON-CDY	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Creme de Menthe (TFA)	FL-TFA-CREME-DE-MENTH	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Dragon Fruit (TFA)	FL-TFA-DRAGONFRUIT	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Gingerbread Cookie (TFA)	FL-TFA-GINGER-BREAD-COOK	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Gingerbread (TFA)	FL-TFA-GINGER-BREAD	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Grape Juice Concentrate (TFA)	FL-TFA-GRAPE-JUICE	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Gummy Candy (TFA)	FL-TFA-GUMMY-CANDY	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Hawaiian Tropical Punch (TFA)	FL-TFA-HAWAII-PUNCH	8	4	32	$1.49	$5.96
15-Apr	Wizard	Honeysuckle Concentrate (TFA)	FL-TFA-HONEYSUCKLE	8	3	24	$1.49	$4.47
15-Apr	Wizard	Honey Concentrate (TFA)	FL-TFA-HONEY	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Huckleberry Concentrate (TFA)	FL-TFA-HUCKLEBERRY	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Irish Cream (TFA)	FL-TFA-IRISH-CREAM	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Juicy Fruit Concentrate (TFA)	FL-TFA-JUICY-FRUIT	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Key Lime Concentrate (TFA)	FL-TFA-KEY-LIME	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Kiwi Concentrate (TFA)	FL-TFA-KIWI-FLAVOR	8	3	24	$1.49	$4.47
15-Apr	Wizard	Lemon Concentrate (TFA)	FL-TFA-LEMON	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Maple Syrup (TFA)	FL-TFA-MAPLE-SYRUP	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Marshmallow (TFA)	FL-TFA-MARSHMALLO	8	8	64	$1.49	$11.92
15-Apr	Wizard	Menthol Crystals - 15 grams (WL)	FL-WL-MENTHL-CRYSTALS	8	1	8	$2.89	$2.89
15-Apr	Wizard	Pie Crust (TFA)	FL-TFA-PIECRUST	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Pineapple (TFA)	FL-TFA-PINEAPPLE	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Raspberry Concentrate (TFA)	FL-TFA-RASPBERRY	8	4	32	$1.49	$5.96
15-Apr	Wizard	Ripe Banana Concentrate (TFA)	FL-TFA-RIPE-BANANA	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Smooth PG Concentrate (TFA)	FL-TFA-SMOOTH-PG	8	4	32	$1.49	$5.96
15-Apr	Wizard	Strawberry Concentrate (TFA)	FL-TFA-STRAWBERRY	8	4	32	$1.49	$5.96
15-Apr	Wizard	Strawberry Kiwi Concentrate (LA)	FL-LA-STRAWBERY-KIWI	8	2	16	$1.49	$2.98
15-Apr	Wizard	Vanilla Cupcake Concentrate (TFA)	FL-TFA-VANILLA-CUPCAKE	8	3	24	$1.49	$4.47
						190
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Apple	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	2	10	$5.99	$5.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Apple Pie	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	2	10	$5.99	$5.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Banana	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	2	10	$5.99	$5.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Blackberry	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	2	10	$5.99	$5.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Blueberry	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	2	10	$5.99	$5.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Caramel	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	1	5	$3.99	$3.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Caramel Candy	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	2	10	$5.99	$5.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Caramel Cream Puff	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	1	5	$3.99	$3.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Cherry	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	2	10	$5.99	$5.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Double Apple	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	2	10	$5.99	$5.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Dragon Fruit	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	2	10	$5.99	$5.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Grape	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	2	10	$5.99	$5.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Kiwi	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	2	10	$5.99	$5.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Lemon	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	1	5	$3.99	$3.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Menthol	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	1	5	$3.99	$3.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Mixed Fruit	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	1	5	$3.99	$3.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Orange	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	1	5	$3.99	$3.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Raspberry	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	1	5	$3.99	$3.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Real Cig	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	2	10	$5.99	$5.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Rum Raisin	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	1	5	$3.99	$3.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Strawberry	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	2	10	$5.99	$5.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Tutti Frutti	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	2	10	$5.99	$5.99
15-Apr	Vaping Zone	Vanilla	Super Concentrated Flavor	5	2	10	$5.99	$5.99
15-Apr	One Stop DIY	Ethyl Maltol		30	2	60	$6.75	$13.50
17-Apr	ECX	HANGSEN-RY1	RY1	10	2	20	$5.99	$11.98
		BASE STUFF
9-Apr	Wizard	100mg Nicotine solution	Carrier Base Liquid: 100% USP Propylene G	250	1	250	$30.28	$30.28
9-Apr	Wizard	100mg Nicotine solution	Carrier Base Liquid: 100% USP Vegetable G	250	1	250	$30.28	$30.28
9-Apr	Wizard	Propylene Glycol	PG	500	2	1000	$9.49	$18.98
9-Apr	Wizard	Vegetable Glycerin	VG	500	2	1000	$9.49	$18.98
		GLASSWARE
9-Apr	Specialty Bottle	Cobalt Blue Euro Glass Bottle 100 ml w/ Dropper Cap	Black Cap DPB 100	100		5	$1.10	$5.50
9-Apr	Specialty Bottle	Cobalt Blue Euro Glass Bottle 100 ml w/ Dropper Cap	White Cap DPB 100W	100		5	$1.10	$5.50
9-Apr	Specialty Bottle	Amber Euro Glass Bottle 100 ml w/ Dropper Cap	Black Cap DPA 100	100		10	$0.65	$6.50
9-Apr	Specialty Bottle	Amber Euro Glass Bottle 100 ml w/ Dropper Cap	White Cap DPA 100W	100		10	$0.65	$6.50
9-Apr	Specialty Bottle	Amber Euro Glass Bottle 30 ml w/ Dropper Cap	Black Cap DPA30	30		15	$0.47	$7.05
9-Apr	Specialty Bottle	Amber Euro Glass Bottle 30 ml w/ Dropper Cap	White Cap DPA 30W	30		15	$0.47	$7.05
15-Apr	Specialty Bottle	Green Euro Glass Bottle 30 ml w/ Dropper Cap	Black Cap DPG 30	30		10	$0.48	$4.80
15-Apr	Specialty Bottle	Green Euro Glass Bottle 30 ml w/ Dropper Cap	White Cap DPG 30W	30		10	$0.48	$4.80
15-Apr	Specialty Bottle	Green Euro Glass Bottle 10 ml w/ Dropper Cap	Black Cap DPG 10	10		15	$0.41	$6.15
15-Apr	Specialty Bottle	Green Euro Glass Bottle 10 ml w/ Dropper Cap	White Cap DPG 10W	10		15	$0.41	$6.15
15-Apr	NTT	Glass 1 ML Syringe		1		3	$10.95	$32.85
15-Apr	NTT	Glass 2 Ml Syringe		2		1	$11.95	$11.95
15-Apr	NTT	Glass 5 Ml Syringe		5		1	$12.95	$12.95
15-Apr	Avid Vapor	2" Stainless Luer Lock 14 Gauge Blunt Needle				2	$3.99	$7.98
15-Apr	Avid Vapor	2" Stainless Luer Lock 16 Gauge Blunt Needle				2	$3.49	$6.98
15-Apr	Avid Vapor	3" Stainless Luer Lock 16 Gauge Blunt Needle				2	$3.99	$7.98
15-Apr	Avid Vapor	Stainless Luer Lock 19 Gauge Blunt Needle				2	$2.49	$4.98
15-Apr	Avid Vapor	Stainless Luer Lock 20 Gauge Blunt Needle				2	$2.49	$4.98

 

[skoot]

That's a lot of flavors!

Glass syringes are fine I suppose, but the liquid isn't in there long enough to leech anything out of them (and I'm a nut about using glass for everything else). I'd recommend getting 5 of each of those sizes you listed. 5 of them in plastic will cost what 1 glass one costs. And 5 tips of each size. Check around for prices on luer lock syringes and needles, I think you can find better deals especially in plastic.

When I sit down to mix, and it looks like you're going to be playing with a lot of different flavors, I hate stopping and washing everything.

 

[Iffy]

If you're gonna use the 100ml colored bottles for storage, I would get the cone caps and replace the dropper ones.

I also highly recommend a glass cylinder set also. I have 10/50/100ml. They're invaluable!

 

[boomerdude]

You have everything you need. One question : Why the 100mg Nic in both PG & VG?

Get the E-juice me up calculator. Just do a search or go to the top of the DIY or Recipe pages.

There are plenty of recipes on the recipe sub-forum.

Think twice before you mix 100 mg. Nicotine, and then think again. Make sure you are absolutely sure you know what your doing.

 

[Keithhe]

Skoot - Thanks I just though the glass syringes would last for a long time, and might be more accurate, but I can get a batch of the plastic too. These guys are SLOW shipping too, so don't like that.

Iffy - I got those caps via a post from Kurt (the chemist on here), whom I trust entirely. Please advise the differences between these as I can order others as needed. My plan is to break down the nic to 30Ml bottles for long term storage, except what I'm using at the time.

Oh, and the 100Ml bottles was a mistake and my original long term storage plan. I was advised to break it down smaller, so changed to the 30ML. I will use the 100ML if I get a great flavor I like to mix a larger batch, or they will not get used. Not sure how this will work out.

Boomer - I vape at 50/50 and was going to experiment going higher on the PG and VG side of things, so to start thought I'd get both. That will likely change to all VG in the future, as I believe it will last longer, but who knows. In answer to your question, my plan is to break out the "in Use" nic that will be in 30 ML bottles, then evenly mix in 60 ML of the VG or PG as the case might be (above) to get me to 30MG/ML for the mix and calculators. I tend to vape at 18-24Mg, so I think this will work, but still evolving.

What about "pipettes" Do I need those if I have all the syringes?

 

[boomerdude]

Pipette pump works best. Those big glass pipettes are ridiculous to use and the plastic ones uniformly wind up with air bubbles.

 

[Iffy]

Skoot Iffy - I got those caps via a post from Kurt (the chemist on here), whom I trust entirely. Please advise the differences between these as I can order others as needed. My plan is to break down the nic to 30Ml bottles for long term storage, except what I'm using at the time.

We ALL trust Kurt! Did he know you were gonna freeze 'em?

The dropper rubber bulb can deteriorate or possibly crack after freezing. The plastic inner cone caps are the more secure/stable option.

Send Kurt a PM to verify my suggestions. If he says otherwise, PLEASE let me know!

 

[Keithhe]

Bommer - Pipette pumps???

Iffy - Kurt was advising someone else on a thread I followed, I followed suit. Kurt specifically told the OP to get these tops, as I recall, but I'll see if he can check in here and let me know. Thanks, as I was not aware of any issues with the caps. It's possible I misunderstood his posts there?? Not sure.

 

[boomerdude]

Unfortunately I can't remember the vendor who sells them. Maybe One Stop DIY. They are easy to use and super accurate. Might be some on eBay but they are a lot more expensive than the ones I saw on that e-cig vendors site.

Here you go : http://www.onestopdiyshop.com/products/Pipette-Pump.html

Bommer - Pipette pumps???

Iffy - Kurt was advising someone else on a thread I followed, I followed suit. Kurt specifically told the OP to get these tops, as I recall, but I'll see if he can check in here and let me know. Thanks, as I was not aware of any issues with the caps. It's possible I misunderstood his posts there?? Not sure.

 

[Keithhe]

Thanks Boomer. Those are cool and had never seen them before. Will order some of those too.

 

[Renolizzie]

Are there any flavors you didn't buy

You definitely have plenty of flavors. You should be able to make a lot of different recipes.

 

[Keithhe]

Are there any flavors you didn't buy

You definitely have plenty of flavors. You should be able to make a lot of different recipes.

Sadly, there were some I heard recipes about that were out of stock, so do need to go back later and get a few. Not too many though.

 

[skoot]

I concur on the poly caps as well.

Also on the warnings with 100 mg/ml nic base. It's what I use but I'm very careful and have some experience handling chemicals. Nitrile gloves would be an essential add-on, also a plastic apron and good ventilation when you're pouring out that 100 base. And some kind of tray to mix on, in case you knock over that bottle of rocket fuel. Read every single sticky in the DIY forum.

 

[Keithhe]

Thanks Skoot. The gloves I have lots of, and experience with a variety of hazardous chemicals and some quite nasty. Would a respirator also be a good idea with the nic, or just well ventilated space to do the quanity cut down to smaller bottles? I have read through the stickies a number of times and have a pretty good idea what I'm getting here, but I appreciate the advise.

 

[mrcoolbp]

Do Vinyl gloves protect as we'll as nitrile?

 

[Keithhe]

No, not as good at all. The nitrile are much heavy and more impervious to many chemicals. I don't trust the vinyl for much of anything.

 

[Shilo]

Wow thats alot of flavors-- the super concentrated from vaping zone will be the easiest start at 2.5%. Good luck looks like a great starter kit to me.

 

[red_m1ke]

Lol. Alot of flavours indeed. Also it will take alot of time too ) GL

 

[Keithhe]

I know. It didn't seem like that much at first, but they all sounded so tempting..I tend to like most all non tobacco flavors, I just get bored with them easily so switch constantly.

 

[skoot]

Thanks Skoot. The gloves I have lots of, and experience with a variety of hazardous chemicals and some quite nasty. Would a respirator also be a good idea with the nic, or just well ventilated space to do the quanity cut down to smaller bottles? I have read through the stickies a number of times and have a pretty good idea what I'm getting here, but I appreciate the advise.

I don't use a respirator, my work table is right next to a window so I put a fan in it blowing out. Also, I don't have the nic base bottle open for very long at all. If I were to sit down and mix up a lot at once, I would get a respirator.