so which is worse: excessive sugar or vaping (with nicotine)?

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HyOnLyph

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I would try zero nic to see if it works for you. You don't want to get a nicotine addiction. RE: those cartridges, you'll save a huge amount of money refilling. If they are not refillable, switch to a ecig that has cartridges that are refillable. The best "cigarette type" of cartridges I've found are SmokeStik. The cartos last forever and never burn. Also, they are refillable. I use them all the time on my eGo (with an adapter) and have not had one fail yet. I am a zero nic vaper. Also, Tasty Vapor has zero nic "doublers" juice that is way less expensive than nicotine juice. Feel free to PM me if you like.
 

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Ok, several things to do.
You are concerned about your potential to become diabetic.
Simple solution, go to your doctor, and get a glucose tolerance test. It takes several hours (4-6 depending so be prepared) to do, but in the end, will tell you if you are processing sugar like a normal person, or, if you have metabolic syndrome (used to be called "pre-diabetes"). If you do, then the next stop is a diabetes class. Learn about the monster. It's what I have, and it's what I did.

If you do, then you make the changes to push the eventuality of becoming diabetic out as far as you can. This means getting over that sweetners taste yukky (for me, splenda tastes the best now, and sugar actually is bitter!), exercising, and learning about moderation, and how to control the cravings. It's your choice, of course. I weighed losing limbs, eyesight, and shots every day for the rest of my life as a motivator.

If you have metabolic syndrome, I advise getting a simple blood sugar testing kit and doing your own testing. See your waking sugar level and watch the numbers zoom after you ingest sugar, and watch it creep back down when you drink lots of water and process it out of your system.

Next, get some zero nic juice, but in the insanely sweet flavors, like fruit, brownies, apple pie, caramel, waffles, ect to satisfy the sweet monster rather than feeding it the real deal. When you vape, you satisfy the hand to mouth habit, and the sweet taste is what you really want after all, not all the actual sugar and calories you are ingesting. You don't want the nicotine, you are suppressing your appetite, but 4 brownies as opposed to 10 brownies isn't really accomplishing your goal.

I have found with vaping sweet stuff my craving for sweets have gone down. I satisfy the monster that way now. I have also found I lost some weight with that. Yes, I still indulge because I practice moderation, but my moderation levels have gone down too...so that is better for me in the end. 1-2 candy bars a month versus 1-2 per week is really quite nice!

That all said, I have also found that when I quit smoking and started vaping, my waking levels of sugar have gone back down to a normal pattern for a normal non-syndrome person. This is a very good thing!
 

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my E-cig doesn't even sell flavors other than one based on Marlboro, one based on camel, and one menthol, they don't sell fruit flavors because they don't want to market to kids and their cartridges can't be refilled. the only thing is, I heard that this is the only E-cig that doesn't use a metal atomizer and uses inorganic fibers built in the cartridge that rely on friction, and when you use a metal atomizer, it vaporizes part of itself, effectively meaning you're putting whatever metal it's made of in your system. its probably not as big of a deal for me since I don't inhale it, but still, I like the menthol flavor just fine, and I don't want to order a whole new e-cig. so I guess i'll just buy menthol 0 nic cartridges once I get the remaining ones I have sold.
 

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OMG sqirl girl, what model did you buy!???

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Quote "I heard that this is the only E-cig that doesn't use a metal atomizer and uses inorganic fibers built in the cartridge that rely on friction, and when you use a metal atomizer, it vaporizes part of itself, effectively meaning you're putting whatever metal it's made of in your system. its probably not as big of a deal for me since I don't inhale it"

Sorry. Not too long ago I went through this with my sister. She bought a Smoke 51 and was feed the same bull. If this is the case, do your own research and you will find that you where lied to just to get you to buy that model over other competitors.

If it is a Smoke 51 or renamed model, it's not a bad model but there are far better out there. And if you plan on sticking with it, find a supplier Online (those here you can pretty much trust) because it'll be cheaper.
Also, if you have the cartomizers like my sister has, you can refill them but not many times before the outside gets really yulky.
Maybe others that have used them can give you more hints to make them last longer.
Anyway, best of luck to you.
 
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my E-cig doesn't even sell flavors other than one based on Marlboro, one based on camel, and one menthol, they don't sell fruit flavors because they don't want to market to kids and their cartridges can't be refilled. the only thing is, I heard that this is the only E-cig that doesn't use a metal atomizer and uses inorganic fibers built in the cartridge that rely on friction, and when you use a metal atomizer, it vaporizes part of itself, effectively meaning you're putting whatever metal it's made of in your system. its probably not as big of a deal for me since I don't inhale it, but still, I like the menthol flavor just fine, and I don't want to order a whole new e-cig. so I guess i'll just buy menthol 0 nic cartridges once I get the remaining ones I have sold.

I'd like to know where you heard that because it isn't true. The metal isn't vaporized because it doesn't get hot enough for that, so we aren't vaping metal. If that were true our atomizers would melt.


Tol, I need to borrow your avatar...
 
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sqirl1

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I'd like to know where you heard that because it isn't true. The metal isn't vaporized because it doesn't get hot enough for that, so we aren't vaping metal. If that were true our atomizers would melt.


Tol, I need to borrow your avatar...

I got a green nicotine from the mall and thats what I use. heres where I heard that greennicotine.com/gallery2.html
sorry I phrased that wrong, apparently, according to him, the metal changes it's chemical composition when exposed to heat and you get some of it
 
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