Voltage means nothing, it's the wattage that counts. You get the same wattage at even 2 volts if the resistance is low enough.
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Voltage means nothing, it's the wattage that counts. You get the same wattage at even 2 volts if the resistance is low enough.
If you like a big battery in a palmable device, look into the Vapage Vmod XL.
If you like a big battery in a palmable device, look into the Vapage Vmod XL.
hrm.... my practical science knowledge is virtually nil. however, it's when you start using lower resistances with small batteries that you can run into explosion problems, no? i know the odds of it happening are slim, but even so, i would prefer to reduce the chances even further by proper usage. yah, i know....i'm 37 and well on my way to becoming a fuddy duddy!
i'll check out the vapage too.... thx!
hrm.... my practical science knowledge is virtually nil. however, it's when you start using lower resistances with small batteries that you can run into explosion problems, no? i know the odds of it happening are slim, but even so, i would prefer to reduce the chances even further by proper usage. yah, i know....i'm 37 and well on my way to becoming a fuddy duddy!
i'll check out the vapage too.... thx!
Smaller batteries cannot always handle lower resistence atts/cartos. Many can't handle dual coil cartos which I use. Plus, the minute you start vaping on any atty or carto, it starts to deteriorate and the resistence will change. Higher voltage is a better overall way to get warmer and more consistent vapor than adjusting the atty/carto resistence, IMO. And of course with models like the Darwin (variable wattage) and Provari, they have regulated and at least with the Darwin, boost circuit technology which provide the most consistent vaping.
Its true that the really small 180-300 mAh batteries cannot handle anything below about 2.2 ohms. I have a provari, and a fair amount of other gear, been vaping for a good year and a half. I'm an engineer. I think the Joye eGo batteries are impressive. The downside of low resistance on an eGo battery is that the regulator board can overheat and stop working if you totally chain vape. Also the battery life is reduced. But i see $20 batteries as finite life items anyway, and IMHO so far on the whole, for most people, cost, vapor, flavor, convenience, nothing beats an Ego Mega Dual Coil Cartomizer (about 1.6 ohms) on a 1000 mAh eGo-t battery. Other setups can top it in some areas, but not at the cost and pocketability, with strong performance, which is what the OP was asking for. The various VV setups are better for home use. There are LR eGo-c atomizers, should look into those, but the EMDCC is so simple and effective you may find you seldom use the atties.
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The two areas I disagree, somewhat, is about using a model like the Darwin or Provari out and about and that the Ego is the best in that category.
I and many others use our Darwins or Provaris everywhere. Since I'm out of the house sometimes 12 hours a day, I love that with my Darwin I don't have to carry extra batteries. And since it is flat in shape, it fits nicely in my pocket and I can use 1.5 ohm EMDCC's with it.
On the Ego, in the same category, I prefer the E-Power. It provides 3.7 volt power instead of the lower 3.4 volt power of the ego and I would rather pay $4 for an E-Power battery than $20 for an eGo battery.
I can definitely understand the need to not attract so much attention when vaping. I had this problem at first when going out for my breaks, but no one notices anymore.
I usually use a VV box I made when I'm at the house, or in the car, but it isn't very practical for walking around or at work. When I need something small I turn to a 650 mAH Ego with a regular carto (2.0 ohm), it's the size of a small cigar, and fits right in my hand. If I need real stealth I have a 10440 3.7 box that measures about 3 inches long with the carto in.
Really though, the ego is a decent little PV for the money. The key ring is really popular for a reason I'm sure.
Really though, the ego is a decent little PV for the money. The key ring is really popular for a reason I'm sure.
At mikeusa.com they have the 1000 mAh Joye eGo in a passthrough model around $18 with the USB cable, you can charge it from an eGo charger or in USB passthrough mode. They have the 650s too. I've taken the Joye units apart and even forced them to fail to see how it happens. I just think they're a good, proven and safe design. For one thing there's a lot of airspace in the casing. Personally I use a Vmod XL most of the time, but if i didn't, I think I'd go back to an eGo with a EMDCC. The Boge 2s are great, but you have to keep refilling them. The Echo-Es can be nice but too many are defective. A Darwin would work, but it's not cheap, and it's a little strange-looking in public. I mean does anybody think an eGo battery plus an EMDCC is a subpar vape? Somehow I don't quite think our OP is ready to carry more bulky or complicated stuff. Hey, he/she's going to have to decide what matters most.
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Doesn't look like a cigarette, but it does look like a cigarette lighter: Little Sister Variable Vari-Cool - Ken's Boxmods
Definitely small and has variable voltage. I really like taking mine out with me.
Definitely small and has variable voltage. I really like taking mine out with me.
Wow, that does look nice ... and small enough. The only thing I'd wonder about is such small batteries being pushed to work so hard as to run a VV rig. What batteries do you use with it, IMRs?
I guess the fact that two batteries are likely in series means the converter is only converting down, unlike the up-down converter in a ProVari, so that demands less current from the batteries, safer.
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I'd say either a eGo batt or a box mod. They're both small & will use most, if not all, of your 510 gear.
The batts are parallel. I just use the batteries that Ken sells on the site to go with it. I use (usually) 2ohm Boges on it (I'd never drip on it without a drip shield for fear of getting juice in it) and run it at from 4 to 4.5v. I get around 4.5 hours out of it. I also use a mini lava tube...it's not that much bigger. Here:
I enjoy them both, but get a longer run time out of the Mini Lava.
I enjoy them both, but get a longer run time out of the Mini Lava.
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Now that I'm off work I can throw you some pics of a good 650 ego set up next to my 10440 stealth box with normal cartos, and some 306 510s.
Left to right:
Boge LR 2.0 carto with drip tip (2 3/8 inches), Stealth Box with carto/driptip (3 3/4 inches), and Ego with carto/driptip (5 inches)
Left to right:
306 (510) 2.0 carto (1.5 inches), Stealth Box with carto (2 7/8 inches), and Ego with carto (4 1/4 inches)
It's also worth noting that the ego is only 3.4 volts (regulated), vs that box at 3.7 (unregulated).
The Ego is 650 mAH (roughly 6 hours), the box is 350 mAH (roughly 3 hours).
I'm sure you'll wind up with something that really suits your style/needs, good luck out there, and let us know what you decide on.
Left to right:
Boge LR 2.0 carto with drip tip (2 3/8 inches), Stealth Box with carto/driptip (3 3/4 inches), and Ego with carto/driptip (5 inches)
Left to right:
306 (510) 2.0 carto (1.5 inches), Stealth Box with carto (2 7/8 inches), and Ego with carto (4 1/4 inches)
It's also worth noting that the ego is only 3.4 volts (regulated), vs that box at 3.7 (unregulated).
The Ego is 650 mAH (roughly 6 hours), the box is 350 mAH (roughly 3 hours).
I'm sure you'll wind up with something that really suits your style/needs, good luck out there, and let us know what you decide on.
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