Some days are just bad

[Giraut]

I purchased an eVic mod, with a few clearos / atomizers today - total bill: 165 euros

I screwed an iClear30 on the eVic: shorted atomizer. When I measure the atty with a ohmmeter, it says 2.4 ohms. Dammit. I rebuilt it twice, it still says 2.4 ohm on the ohmmeter and shorted on the eVic. I threw the atty's connector on the lathe and shortened the 510 thread by 0.02", so the center terminal protrudes - still shorted. What the heck?!? Eventually after wiggling it on the eVic this and that way, it sort of works. The eVic says 1.8 ohms but it vapes. All my other attys work perfectly and their resistance are measured correctly. It's just that damn iClear30 I just bought.

So I figured, nevermind that. I screwed a brand-new CE5 (never tried one before), filled it up, waited a bit and... burnt taste. Checked it all out, still burnt taste. The best it delivers is a great vape for 1 or 2 seconds - with much gurgling, and then *bam* burnt taste. Tried another CE5, then a third - same thing. I believe they're just not good to wick pure VG...

The only good part of my purchase is the EGO-T atomizer that I could use immediately to drip my homemade liquids on, and that worked rightaway. Other than that, I feel like having flushed good money down the toilet.

Back to my trusty innokin VV v3s and their equally trusty iClear10s attys for now. I should have stuck with them instead of buying all that junk...

 

[Jett.]

We all have bad days. Atleast you had a backup!

Try updating the firmware on your EVic. I have heard that it fixes many of the factory bugs, which this could relate to. I don't have one personally though!

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I've also heard about the top cap coming loose and registering shorted atomizers/cartomizers alike. Have you been getting any misfires with the EVic?

 

[Giraut]

The eVic is brand new. The firmware check says v1.4. It feels cheaply built but it works well and doesn't misfire with clearos it likes.

(Note on the "cheaply built" feel: to be fair, I've yet to see a sub-$100 mod that isn't. The eVic is no different: it screams made in China through and through, but no worse than all the others, and that doesn't necessarily mean that it sucks )

 

[sdennislee]

MY eVic works great with the following toppers:
iClear 30S
ProTank II with original base and the Aerotank base
ProTank 3
Aerotank
HyperTank
ProTank Mini
CE4 tanks
Vivi Nova
Smok DCT Pyrex Carto

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[crxess]

First study the Tank better to figure out exactly where it is shorting. Possibly lead contact or + wire leg touching inside atty down tube. There is a a logical reason and solution.

Second - Distilled Water
A few drops and you are still Vaping your preferred VG mixes, only they will be thinned enough to flow properly.
The choice of using 100%(or Close) Does not force using THICK MIX.

Clean up your gear, soak in alcohol or dry burn to clean wicks - Know before you attempt!
Give it another go and enjoy your purchases.

* Evic uses an aluminum tube - light weight
This does not dictate cheaply build. It makes for a comfortable to use mod for long periods even for smaller people.
It should be looked at more like any technology device. They are designed for functionality not combat.

I have 2 and both are now over a year old. Both are generally used daily and always carried to work.

 

[Giraut]

A study the Yank better to figure out exactly where it is shorting. Possibly lead contact or + wire leg touching inside atty down tube. There is a a logical reason and solution.

I've looked and measured things - it's all good when it's not on the eVic. It works fine on my Innokins too. It's just when it's on the eVic. I'm at a loss to explain why it's so finicky on that mod.

I might just get me another one and call this one bad...

Second - Distilled Water
A few drops and you are still Vaping your preferred VG mixes, only they will be thinned enough to flow properly.
The choice of using 100%(or Close) Does not force using THICK MIX.

Clean up your gear, soak in alcohol or dry burn to clean wicks - Know before you attempt!
Give it another go and enjoy your purchases.

Yeah I know about distilled water. I use hooch myself, but even a couple drops dilute the juice to the point of making it bland and uninteresting. At least for me...

Thing is though, the Innokin clearos I have (dual top coils) pass even the thickest of juices with no trouble at all. The CE5 just won't wick properly. I'm almost tempted to punch a few more holes in that inner metal sleeve.

Also, the Innokin clearos taste good from the get-go, and don't need cleaning or dry-burning. The CE5s on the other hand take their own sweet time to settle in and deliver something vapeable.

I wanted the CE5s because they come in different colors, letting me distinguish between my different preferred juices without me having to stick a label on them.

I'll give them a bit more time to see if they start behaving.

* Evic uses an aluminum tube - light weight
This does not dictate cheaply build. It makes for a comfortable to use mod for long periods even for smaller people.
It should be looked at more like any technology device. They are designed for functionality not combat.

I have 2 and both are now over a year old. Both are generally used daily and always carried to work.

Well it's okay and it's nice enough to look at. I like the gimmicky screen too, and the preset RVW settings. But I was more thinking of the ring: the fit is extremely sloppy and it doesn't feel quite the same when turning right and left. Typical China-made electronics: it reminds me of a cheap alarm clock.

It's not that China companies can't manufacture tight buttons that "feel solid" and have a frank click (they do, since they make Apple products for instance), it's just that whoever designed the eVic didn't give a flying *** about ergonomics, to lower development costs obviously.

Same on my Innokin VVs: the buttons work, but if you shake the battery, they go clickety-click. You don't find that on US or EU-designed products.

 

[SkvLTD]

I spent ~4 hours getting SS mesh into my Fogger without hot legging at the positive post. You can only imagine how fun that was...

 

[MorpheusPA]

A study the Yank better to figure out exactly where it is shorting. Possibly lead contact or + wire leg touching inside atty down tube. There is a a logical reason and solution.

Second - Distilled Water
A few drops and you are still Vaping your preferred VG mixes, only they will be thinned enough to flow properly.
The choice of using 100%(or Close) Does not force using THICK MIX.

I was just going to post this. A few drops of distilled water can make a pure VG mix pure heaven.

In a pinch, a few drops of PG will also help, but not as much as the water would have.

* Evic uses an aluminum tube - light weight
This does not dictate cheaply build. It makes for a comfortable to use mod for long periods even for smaller people.
It should be looked at more like any technology device. They are designed for functionality not combat.

There's a reason we make soda cans out of very thin aluminum. It's light but very strong. While aluminum tends not to be the most attractive metal, it certainly has its uses!

I have 2 and both are now over a year old. Both are generally used daily and always carried to work.[/QUOTE]

 

[MorpheusPA]

We all have days like this. Yesterday I managed to drop one of my tanks and crack it. Fortunately, they're just Kanger T3 clearos and very cheap, and it did mostly survive a five foot drop to a quarry tile floor, so I can't complain. And the battery was unharmed.

Still, annoying. Trying to rebuild and rewick bases last night was an exercise in futility, I kept wrapping badly. Annoying.

I finally gave it up and puttered around for the evening. Doing nothing was an unqualified success!

Like mentioned above, you can rescue your VG liquid easily. Most other issues are solvable, they'll just take a little time.

 

[crxess]

Suggestion on the ce5's
Check the silicone cap over the wicks. I had to cut V notches in all of the ones I purchased to stop wick pinching.
You can also unravel the wicks for more surface wicking. No change is duration of usage.
They also seriously need tipping and no chain vaping.
They are the reason I was glad to see the development of BCC tanks.
Oddly, Kanger T2 top coil tanks work much better than CE5.........but more of a pain to clean.

 

[Steamix]

Decent mod and ya don't need to go to a gym

But well, if click and double-click become olympic disciplines, I might stand a chance for a medal

 

[Giraut]

Thanks for the suggestions on the CE5. When I took them apart, the coils did look very tightly wound too. The wick looked "choked" inside.

I think I'll just go get me a bunch of Innokin clearos tomorrow and ditch the CE5s. Too much aggravation...

 

[Giraut]

Okay I think I figured out the CE5s.

Firstly, I repeatedly ran some very diluted glycerin (thinned out with water) in them, until the vapor stopped tasting like crap They each took almost 1 ml of juice. What a chore, but that's done.

Secondly, they need a lot less power than Innokin clearos to generate vapor. At 4W, they can sustain continuous vapor production without running dry and tasting of burnt wick. For comparison, Innokin clearos need 8W to generate the same density of vapor. But the difference is, when I run more power into the Innokins, they never run dry and simply make more vapor. The CE5s on the other hand seem to just give up above 5W and try to choke me with the burnt taste. At least that's what happens with my thick VG juices. I suppose your mileage may vary with runnier juices.

Thirdly, if the vapor CE5s generate at 4W is acceptable, it takes forever for the coils to warm up and get going. As a result, because I have to wait 2 or 3 seconds to let the coils warm up before pulling vapor into my mouth, I run into the 10 second puff limit (which annoys me to high heaven, both on the Innokin VV v3 and the eVic, incidentally). That's where the eVic really shines: I programmed one of the RVW settings to feed 9W into the coils for 1 second to kickstart vapor production quickly, then drop to 4W for the remaining 9 seconds to continue generating vapor without burning up. With that setting, I get satisfying puffs that last 8 seconds on average.

So, I managed to get the damned CE5s to work for me. They're not great, but they're decent enough to be keepers. I'll keep using them as long as they work okay, but as soon as they start being a pain in the .... again, I'll probably replace them with good, no-nonsense, screw-on-and-vape Innokin clearos. The CE5 is just an aggravating, finicky piece of equipment - at least with thick juices.