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100% agree....
But there is a little issue you will have that will require an extra or two...lol
The squeeze works great and its easy when you can see what's happening, but when the atty is covered you will / may run into flooding problems, also how much to squeeze.. an almost empty bottle delivers a lot less than a full one.
The way I got around it was to 'inject' into and onwards from a cup, and any excess was drawn back into the bottle, don't know if it was the ideal way as I've no doubt that Raidy would of solved it differently and better .. but it worked
The cup size was important and also so was the size of the bottle, as you really don't want a major variation per squeeze between the full or almost empty bottle
Good luck, I look forward to seeing your results.
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I've got genesis for about 5days (thanks to djgap from papierosyforum.pl), but still I can't get very good vapour... In my case, I think problem is bad wire (I use kanthal 0,2, yesterday I ordered 0,15 0,25 and 0,30 for further tests) and liquid doesn't properly vaporize from wick... In effect I've got leaks around wick and silver wires I hope new kanthal will resolve my problem, taste and TH is too good to give up So here is video how it works for know, It only has one full wrap of kanthal 0,2 + 2 partial going from silver (I don't know it counts for 1 or 3 wraps). With more wraps vaporize is quite bad, that's optimal config for now. But with this leaks it can't be use normally (I don't want to clear it for every 30min)
YouTube - video 2011 03 14 12 47 20
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I've got genesis for about 5days (thanks to djgap from papierosyforum.pl), but still I can't get very good vapour... In my case, I think problem is bad wire (I use kanthal 0,2, yesterday I ordered 0,15 0,25 and 0,30 for further tests) and liquid doesn't properly vaporize from wick... In effect I've got leaks around wick and silver wires
I hope new kanthal will resolve my problem, taste and TH is too good to give up So here is video how it works for know, It only has one full wrap of kanthal 0,2 + 2 partial going from silver (I don't know it counts for 1 or 3 wraps). With more wraps vaporize is quite bad, that's optimal config for now. But with this leaks it can't be use normally (I don't want to clear it for every 30min)YouTube - video 2011 03 14 12 47 20
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Boogeyman is it you? I suspect that you have additional resistance somewhere in a connection, possibly the kanthal to silver. Dropping the coil to one full wrap to counteract this is just too low, there is not enough wick being heated and too much free air for that length of kanthal, so the ends glow. You can check how secure the kanthal is by carefully pinching it with tweezers while firing it on one side then the other and see if that wakes it up at all.
I like the .20 kanthal with 3 wraps for 3.7v, and 5 wraps for ~5v, which is a formula that is easy to remember. Larger than .20 is going to need quite a few more wraps, and there isn't so much room on the wick.
I suspect that you have additional resistance somewhere in a connection, possibly the kanthal to silver. Dropping the coil to one full wrap to counteract this is just too low, there is not enough wick being heated and too much free air for that length of kanthal, so the ends glow. You can check how secure the kanthal is by carefully pinching it with tweezers while firing it on one side then the other and see if that wakes it up at all.I like the .20 kanthal with 3 wraps for 3.7v, and 5 wraps for ~5v, which is a formula that is easy to remember. Larger than .20 is going to need quite a few more wraps, and there isn't so much room on the wick.
Yes, it's me
I know that I must make more wraps, but with more the vaporize is less than now... Maybe my kanthal has diffrent ressistence but I don't have working multimeter to measure it. So I ordered kanthal from other source and I check how it works...
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I know that I must make more wraps, but with more the vaporize is less than now... Maybe my kanthal has diffrent ressistence but I don't have working multimeter to measure it. So I ordered kanthal from other source and I check how it works...
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100% agree....
But there is a little issue you will have that will require an extra or two...lol
The squeeze works great and its easy when you can see what's happening, but when the atty is covered you will / may run into flooding problems, also how much to squeeze.. an almost empty bottle delivers a lot less than a full one.
The way I got around it was to 'inject' into and onwards from a cup, and any excess was drawn back into the bottle, don't know if it was the ideal way as I've no doubt that Raidy would of solved it differently and better .. but it worked
The cup size was important and also so was the size of the bottle, as you really don't want a major variation per squeeze between the full or almost empty bottle
Good luck, I look forward to seeing your results.
All of the current case designs have a glass or clear plastic protion which holds the atty. I also have a small countersink at the base of the atty and the mesh goes all the way through the body to collect extra juice. I typically squeeze until I see the juice at the top of the mesh then let go. This sucks the extra juice out of the mesh giving a dryer vapor. It takes a little practice but it is well worth it for the high quality of the vapor. These attys are really great. I didn't think the vapor would be THAT much better. I am still amazed.
hey Guys
I hope everyone is fine and enjoying their Genisis attys and hybrids.
I just dont care for the button and switch we use for the genisis atty. is there another one that can be used? I am looking for a switch that doesnt need anything else like a mosfetor anything else cause i just dont undersdtand that stuff. just want simple. I would like something that wont always go off or be so sensitive. any ideas? I sure wish i could use a Phidius switch or silver bullit switch even though its a bit too big.
Hope everyone is doing well. I have been busy doing some work for someone but I should have my free time back in after this week is over. Thank you for any ideas.
I hope everyone is fine and enjoying their Genisis attys and hybrids.
I just dont care for the button and switch we use for the genisis atty. is there another one that can be used? I am looking for a switch that doesnt need anything else like a mosfetor anything else cause i just dont undersdtand that stuff. just want simple. I would like something that wont always go off or be so sensitive. any ideas? I sure wish i could use a Phidius switch or silver bullit switch even though its a bit too big.
Hope everyone is doing well. I have been busy doing some work for someone but I should have my free time back in after this week is over. Thank you for any ideas.
I agree with asdaq,it is probably the kanthal to silver wire connection.When I loose vapor that's always the problem.I wish there was a way to make a secure quick and easy connection.Anyway good luck,you will get it.Yes, it's me
I know that I must make more wraps, but with more the vaporize is less than now... Maybe my kanthal has diffrent ressistence but I don't have working multimeter to measure it. So I ordered kanthal from other source and I check how it works...
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Good to see some more Polish members here, Google translate doesn't do too well w/ your language and I have a hard time following the forum there (I guess you have the same problem here).
@ 'Chuckie', it seems like screws or a needle ferrule system is the way to go but notice 'oosturmoo's pic/vids, he gets great vapor and only wraps his kanthal. His positive lead touches the mesh too. Don't think that would enter the equation since the mesh is oxidized? Did you ever sort out your other Hybrid's trouble (brazing one) or try the good one on the other (to rule out battery issues).
@ 'oosturmoo': I notice you've been posting a lot of videos for different kanthal/wraps. What's your favorite so far? And; do you just use the loop method for your negative wire on the bottom?
@ 'Chuckie', it seems like screws or a needle ferrule system is the way to go but notice 'oosturmoo's pic/vids, he gets great vapor and only wraps his kanthal. His positive lead touches the mesh too. Don't think that would enter the equation since the mesh is oxidized? Did you ever sort out your other Hybrid's trouble (brazing one) or try the good one on the other (to rule out battery issues).
@ 'oosturmoo': I notice you've been posting a lot of videos for different kanthal/wraps. What's your favorite so far? And; do you just use the loop method for your negative wire on the bottom?
what is .20 wire , and .16 wire,
is that the gauge.
i got 32 gauge Kanthal wire
is that the gauge.
i got 32 gauge Kanthal wire
@ Turbo,
Both are working great,I stuck a straight pin in the q-tip tube along side the silver wire in the battery compartment.That really made it snug.I also went down from 5 wraps to 3 wraps of .20 wire and that made a big difference.As I stated above,when my vapor gets weak,it's almost always the kanthal connection to the silver wire.
My new favorite method of testing the connection is to put an alligator clip on the kanth/silver wire and watch the difference in vapor production.If there is no difference with the clip on,than it's time to change the battery.
If I could just find some tiny clips that would fit inside the top cap I'd be thrilled.
I hope all is well with your hybrid.
Both are working great,I stuck a straight pin in the q-tip tube along side the silver wire in the battery compartment.That really made it snug.I also went down from 5 wraps to 3 wraps of .20 wire and that made a big difference.As I stated above,when my vapor gets weak,it's almost always the kanthal connection to the silver wire.
My new favorite method of testing the connection is to put an alligator clip on the kanth/silver wire and watch the difference in vapor production.If there is no difference with the clip on,than it's time to change the battery.
If I could just find some tiny clips that would fit inside the top cap I'd be thrilled.
I hope all is well with your hybrid.
Good to hear, that's a good idea. Just a regular straight pin w/ the little plastic knob? I put a slight twist to the loop, like a mini helix, and it stays put. Tiny clips would be great wouldn't they.
I had mine working and of course developed the leak; resoldered/resealed and am waiting on some new acrylic tanks. I'll be sure to post pics but it could be a couple weeks out.
hey guys i posted this other day but i think it may have gotton lost so here i go again. Thanks for any help
hey Guys
I hope everyone is fine and enjoying their Genisis attys and hybrids.
I just dont care for the button and switch we use for the genisis atty. is there another one that can be used? I am looking for a switch that doesnt need anything else like a mosfet or anything else cause i just dont undersdtand that stuff. just want simple. I would like something that wont always go off or be so sensitive. any ideas? I sure wish i could use a Phidius switch or silver bullit switch even though its a bit too big.
Hope everyone is doing well. I have been busy doing some work for someone but I should have my free time back in after this week is over. Thank you for any ideas.
hey Guys
I hope everyone is fine and enjoying their Genisis attys and hybrids.
I just dont care for the button and switch we use for the genisis atty. is there another one that can be used? I am looking for a switch that doesnt need anything else like a mosfet or anything else cause i just dont undersdtand that stuff. just want simple. I would like something that wont always go off or be so sensitive. any ideas? I sure wish i could use a Phidius switch or silver bullit switch even though its a bit too big.
Hope everyone is doing well. I have been busy doing some work for someone but I should have my free time back in after this week is over. Thank you for any ideas.
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