Some homemade attys and genesis

[Quick1]

Resistance is what you want to measure.
With everything assembled, remove the battery and measure resistance from where the battery would be. Positive contact for the battery and adajacent body for ground (with switch pressed). This way you're measuring the entire working circuit. You're looking for a resistance close to 2.0Ω. If it's up around 3.0Ω then it's probably due to too much kanthal. To check that, remove the kanthal and replace with copper wire instead. You should measure a resistance close to zero or very very small. You want about 2.0Ω of resistance in the circuit and almost all of that due to the kanthal.

 

[Quick1]

I did some browsing about the SS soldering. Outside of the heat it seems that the difficulty is that SS corrodes/oxidizes very quickly? So there is this thin layer that prevents further corrosion? and also keeps the solder from wetting it. If you scuff it, it comes back before you can solder it? something like that.

The recommended method was to tin the brass, then use a hydrochloric acid flux, then position the SS and heat, then flow some additional solder. The plan being that the flux would remove the layer on the SS while keeping air from it allowing the solder to wet it...

If I get to that part I think I'll just try the same I've done with the copper and silver. Mini torch, liberal amounts of rosin flux, somewhat excessive amounts of silver solder and hope for the best.

At the top end, it turns out that my mini connectors are made of aluminum... doh...might be worse for soldering than the SS. I could probably crimp up there though.

it all seemed like a good idea when I thought of it

 

[asdaq]

Yeah it oxidizes too fast, almost instantaneously. To get around this you can, so I hear, apply flux liberally, sand the area but keep the flux there so air can't get to what you've exposed sanding, and then solder. Beat the oxidisation, so to say. Crimping the top connectors sounds much more pleasant.

 

[ooSTURMoo]

welcome

I am also the holder of a hybrid

I'll show you how my "little beast" works:

 

[weaponX]

whats up folks!

Nice build sturm! what are your specs?

Finally got my genesis up and running again lastnight with decent success.

3.7v, 32gK 3-4wraps, 1.5-2Ω, 400 mesh 20mm

got the second hole drilled and kind of hoped that was my only problem...but I was wrong.
Still not getting the vapor amount on the exhale like sturm. Definitely not complaining, the
flavor is phenomenal, the th is pretty good, but just hoping for some tips to get it to the
next level. possibly the meshroll? I dont think it has much to do with it but I vape primarily
80-90% pg.

Heres a vid of my progress...

YouTube - weaponXgenesis.mov

 

[ooSTURMoo]

4 wraps kanthal 0,16 and 400mesh (16mm) to 1mm diameter on the top

covered my original hole 0,7mm and I use handmade 1mm in diameter, below

liquid 50/50 VPG

 

[Quick1]

whats up folks!

Nice build sturm! what are your specs?

Finally got my genesis up and running again lastnight with decent success.

3.7v, 32gK 3-4wraps, 1.5-2Ω, 400 mesh 20mm

got the second hole drilled and kind of hoped that was my only problem...but I was wrong.
Still not getting the vapor amount on the exhale like sturm. Definitely not complaining, the
flavor is phenomenal, the th is pretty good, but just hoping for some tips to get it to the
next level. possibly the meshroll? I dont think it has much to do with it but I vape primarily
80-90% pg.

Heres a vid of my progress...

YouTube - weaponXgenesis.mov

Everything looks right. You didn't kink your roll did you? It's not your juice. I use 100% vg (extremely thick).
Do you have calipers? 20 mm of #400 mesh should roll to 1.9 - 2.0 mm diameter.

 

[ooSTURMoo]

 

[Quick1]

Holy cow, I just looked at your video... You are getting plenty of vapor with the cap off. and hardly any with it on??? It's almost like it's shorting and tripping the battery pcb...but then I wouldn't expect anything at all. You had more vapor in 1 second with the cap off than you got with almost 10 seconds taking a drag.

 

[ooSTURMoo]

0,16 x 5 wraps



poc call to me - MoH - Master of Hybrid

0,16 x 4 wraps

 

[ooSTURMoo]

 

[rico]

hi,where can i buy a hybrid,peaceofcoke dont make hybrid now say to me ,can all user help me where can i buy a new good device hybrid ?

 

[ooSTURMoo]

look this Polish forum
PapierosyForum.pl - wszystko o elektronicznych papierosach

 

[Turbo]

Nice video update 'weapon', I agree w/ 'quick', you're getting nice vapor w/o the cap, so it probably isn't the mesh/kanthal setup. Your vapor w/ the cap isn't too bad, just a little thin. Maybe plug the high hole w/ some tape and see what the lower hole does on it's own?

Good to see you here 'oosturmoo', we're friends on Youtube now I see. I'm on page 20 on the Polish Hybrid thread. You're 'gerard' there right? I like how you made the silicone gasket. What type of silicone is the red? I also see in your pics where you touch the silver wire to the mesh. Very interesting.

 

[ooSTURMoo]

Yes, gerard88

http://moto.allegro.pl/technicqll-silikon-wysokotemperaturowy-20ml-i1484843455.html#gallery

 

[Quick1]

Nice video update 'weapon', I agree w/ 'quick', you're getting nice vapor w/o the cap, so it probably isn't the mesh/kanthal setup. Your vapor w/ the cap isn't too bad, just a little thin. Maybe plug the high hole w/ some tape and see what the lower hole does on it's own?

ummm... it's pretty bad with the cap on. almost to the point of being sad... I agree with Turbo, maybe it's an air flow thing. I'd suggest plugging the top hole (a bit of scotch tape works fine) and maybe unscrew the cap a bit to let air in through the threads. It's hard for me to compare since I'm using a very large air hole and direct inhaling. With a 2 to 3 second inhale I'm getting maybe 2 times the vapor oosturmoo is getting (no, I don't take drags that big all the time). So the atomiser/wick part is definitely capable.

Good to see you here 'oosturmoo', we're friends on Youtube now I see. I'm on page 20 on the Polish Hybrid thread. You're 'gerard' there right? I like how you made the silicone gasket. What type of silicone is the red? I also see in your pics where you touch the silver wire to the mesh. Very interesting.

Shouldn't matter if the mesh is oxidised right?

 

[ooSTURMoo]

prepare a mesh by the instructions poc. I cook 3x5min in boiling water and then oxidised mini torch 3 times

 

[Turbo]

Good mesh video 'oostrumoo'. Looks like the way I do it except I don't burn the kanthal before putting on. That would probably help oxidize it quicker I suppose.

I see where your silicone gasket doesn't cover the ear bud holes in the bottom. I think my leaking was more from the condensation travelling down the ear sticks from the top. Do you plug the holes on top too?

 

[Quick1]

Dang... I've GOT to get me a tube thing like that to keep my mesh rolls in! Every few weeks I prep about 10 of them and I've been keeping them in one of those tiny ziplock bags. There was this unfortunate incident where I squashed about 5 or 6 of them... (why didn't I think of a tube?)

 

[ooSTURMoo]

yes 'm putting on top silicone inside the stick, I used a syringe
where it is liquid at the top, no silicone. Silicone is inside the stick. half way to the top


PS

I would like to thank two people:
Raidy - an idea
Peaceoffcake - for the use of such a wonderful mod

Thank you very much

MoH