some things about new GGTS batch

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ManniGfaltig

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Don't use *-fires, they are the worst batteries on earth!
Some resons:
- IMR/INR batteries won't explode if misstreated
- IMR/INR batteries usually have a lower voltage-drop under load
- IMR/INR batteries are able to provide the current that the kick demands whereas *fires can't (at least not far as long as the IMR/INR)

Panasonic builds some pretty good INR batteries, the CGR18650CH. Don't use other types - the NCR batteries are ICR types which are substantially prone to explosion. And the CGR18650CH exactly provides the spectrum we vapers need.
 
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I also bought new batch ggts from UK site.
If I put the kick in ggts can I use trustfire or panasonic batteries or I must buy imr?
Is there a danger to use non imr batteries with kick?
Explanation would help

Every site that sells the kick, including the maker Evolv has this warning plastered all over the place:

Warning!



*****REMEMBER – USE IMR BATTERIES ONLY*****

The Kick is designed to be used only as specified in these instructions. Using the Kick module in any configuration other than as outlined above will VOID THE WARRANTY and will be at your own risk. EVOLV cannot warranty, or be responsible for, any user modifications to the device and/or any application other than as specifically described in these user instructions.
 

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Maybe just a little addon for the INR batteries:
In general IMR batteries provide high currents and have few capacity. ICR are the opposite, they provide less current but have more capacity.
Now manufacterers take both and create a battery that fits best for a specific demand. These hybrid (Li-Ion) batteries are called INR. But there isn't a specific rule, so you can still call an INR battery IMR or ICR without harm. The above mentioned Panasonic CGR-CH is usually referenced to as IMR battery but is a mix of both worlds.
Still INR batteries are safe to use (if you overcharge/deep charge them then they will loose capacity or don't work anymore but they don't go BANG).

Always use quality cells and don't trust the fake mAh notation on cheap batteries! There is a simple reason why they are cheap - they don't provide what they declare.
 

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I also bought new batch ggts from UK site.
If I put the kick in ggts can I use trustfire or panasonic batteries or I must buy imr?
Is there a danger to use non imr batteries with kick?
Explanation would help

What EZkill said but realistically...Panasonic 18650 will do just fine. Can't say anything about 18500 Li-ions.
 

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I find that often people are willing to spend substantial amounts of money on e-cigs and radio controlled planes and helicopters and then buy the cheapest chargers and batteries they can find. The chargers and batteries are extremely important. Not only due to the overall longevity of the batteries but also add an extra layer of safety.

Friend I build RC helicopters with used to constantly hassle me about buying the highest quality expensive batteries and chargers I could find. He was spending less then half on the stuff he was buying and for a time it performed as well as my setup. Not long ago as he hooked up his battery and brought the blades up to speed...BOOM LiPo(yes yes it's a different chemistry I know) goes thermal. LiPo's are much more unstable but then again I don't put an RC helicopter up to my face a few hundred times a day.

All of these batteries hold a tremendous amount of energy. I'm a safety first kind of guy because it's pretty impressive how much damage a 1100 mah LiPo can do.

Using different batteries directly against the advice of a manufacturer in my opinion is a very bad idea. This is my opinion only, based on personal experience. Everyone has to make their own choice.
 

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its a little more in milimeters Manni because holes are rounded and cut is straight.
Does the "long thin cut" on the new Collection Tank have a similar mm² than the 4 holes? I wonder if it will be so adjustable as the holes were (because of their round nature) and probably provide an airy draw more faster but I will try to get one anyways :)
 

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Don't use *-fires, they are the worst batteries on earth!
Some resons:
- IMR/INR batteries won't explode if misstreated
- IMR/INR batteries usually have a lower voltage-drop under load
- IMR/INR batteries are able to provide the current that the kick demands whereas *fires can't (at least not far as long as the IMR/INR)

Panasonic builds some pretty good INR batteries, the CGR18650CH. Don't use other types - the NCR batteries are ICR types which are substantially prone to explosion. And the CGR18650CH exactly provides the spectrum we vapers need.

Does this mean only the use with "The Kick" or are IMR batteries recommended for use with the GGTS?
I thought protected ones should be used - maybe i misunderstood something.

cheers phk
 

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Phr³³k;6865526 said:
Does this mean only the use with "The Kick" or are IMR batteries recommended for use with the GGTS?
I thought protected ones should be used - maybe i misunderstood something.

cheers phk

Any battery will work in the GGTS. If you are using a Kick only use batterys that are IMR or in a pinch batts that have a 10 amp drain capacity. I use the Panasonic ones with my kick myself.
 

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Maybe just a little addon for the INR batteries:
In general IMR batteries provide high currents and have few capacity. ICR are the opposite, they provide less current but have more capacity.
Now manufacterers take both and create a battery that fits best for a specific demand. These hybrid (Li-Ion) batteries are called INR. But there isn't a specific rule, so you can still call an INR battery IMR or ICR without harm. The above mentioned Panasonic CGR-CH is usually referenced to as IMR battery but is a mix of both worlds.
Still INR batteries are safe to use (if you overcharge/deep charge them then they will loose capacity or don't work anymore but they don't go BANG).

Always use quality cells and don't trust the fake mAh notation on cheap batteries! There is a simple reason why they are cheap - they don't provide what they declare.

These are the batts I use and like the best of all

The MNKE 18650 IMR 1500mah (High Drain ) 3.7v

This is a serious battery for serious MOD's and 18650 Capable Personal Vaporizers. The MNKE 18650 Battery Boast some of the most outrageous specs seen when it comes to performance and current (amps) it is capable of delivering.

This Battery utilizes safer chemistry LiMN and does not require a protection. However if you device has protection built in! Then your dual protected. These batteris can be charged with any LiIon charger with a 4.2v output like our TR-100 multi -charger

FEED THOSE ATOMIZERS THE CURRENT THEY DESERVE! with this awesome battery.

Some Specs: (Un-Protected )
Flat Top Positive (please check with the manufacture of your mod to make sure this type of cell will work if you are in doubt)
Rated Capacity : 1500mah
Max (Cont ) Discharge Current 20A!!!!!
Max Rated Discharging Current 30A
Nominal Voltage 3.8v
Max Charge Voltage 4.2v + - 0.05 V

Length: 65.5 mm
OD 18.28mm
 

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Thanasi thank you for my brand new GGTS and congratulations on creating this mechanical beauty! (Χρονια πολλα σε σενα και την οικογενεια σου και για τη σημερινη γιορτη)

One thing I noticed when trying to replace the steel button axis with the brass one, was that the brass was about half+ mm longer.. Is there a reason for that or it was random and only in my part? I am asking because I so prefer to adjust the button's throw as short as it gets and this is not possible with this axis..

Thanks in advance for your answer
Thanos ;)

Sent from my GGTS SS using VIR extention.
 
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