Soooooooooo Sad.... I'm done

[Myah_June2014]

So I built a twisted 28 Guage coil on my KFL+ & it started on FIRE when pulsing [the coil]. I took my Zenith which was already built & put on my Cloupor dna 30 & it says check atty... IS THE BOX FRIED?

1 week ago I bought hundreds of dollars in juice, DNA 30, Zenith V2, KFL+, batteries, charger, & all building materials. Felt so good to not smoke cigarettes & I got nothing now. I'm so ...... That was all my money, I should've been fine for months.... Sorry for the rant, is this fixable? Put in a new battery & nothing.. I'm devastated

 

[Newportlocal]

Do you have another ohm checker to check your zenith? The KFL+ fire may have been something on the Kanthal. I do very quick pulses dry burning at around 11 watts.

 

[iamthevoice]

I was under the impression that the Check Atty message was to indicate a short with the atty and PREVENT it from being fired. If it let it fire, then yes, it could be fried. Do you have a multimeter handy to check your faulty atty for a short? I'm sure someone more experienced will pipe up soon. I feel for you; I know that's not much consolation but I really do.

 

[JMarca]

Check atomizer usually means there is no atomizer on top or the atomizer isnt making a connection to the mod. If you had fried a cana you'd know it because the screen would go dead all together, your mod is fine.

Thw fire could have been juice residue from your hands or oils on the coil itself, don't panic.

I'll add some codes the cana uses:

Check atomizer = no atty
Shorted = Short
Too Hot = overheating
check battery = battery voltage fluctuating

If your screen is still working and when you pulse it lights up and tells you something then it's prob fine.

 

[Seanchai]

"Check atty" usually means your resistance is too low or that you have a short somewhere (most likely in the atomizer/build itself). Do you have an ohm meter or a multimeter to check your resistance? I wouldn't panic just yet, it sounds like your build needs some adjusting. Trying to gauge your resistance by number of wraps isn't a good idea, in my experience. Once you've done many many builds, all using the same implement(s), you can usually figure out how many wraps will get you the resistance you want, yes... but knowing the number of wraps you want does not help you detect a short. For that, you need an ohm meter or a multimeter. If you don't have one and can't afford to pick one up right now, stick to simpler builds on attys you're very familiar with, which will be a little bit easier to troubleshoot by eye. Caution is still a necessity when building this way, however - doing it by eye works for whether the coil is shorting on the deck or whether your screws are tight, but not, for example, whether you have a short in the 510 pin.

 

[Myah_June2014]

I just put my Aerotank on the Cloupor & same thing, check atty. Don't have an ohm meter cuz I used the Cloupor & never built below 1.0. Had an ego twist but just gave it to my nephew so he could try & quit. Guess I should've kept my back up, thought I was fine w/ Cloupor. Took the battery out & wasn't hot but had a funny smell. I'm scared to even put the battery in now to rebuild on something & check again. Screen still works so yeah, I don't know... So frustrating, I want my Frenilla so bad right now!!

 

[Myah_June2014]

Thank you everyone for trying to help, this is definitely the best forum! Ty All

 

[Newportlocal]

I empathize with your frustration, but this will eventually work out. It could be that the atomizer resistance is wrong for the power setting, or it isn't connecting well at the 510 connection.

Check atomizer: The DNA does not detect an atomizer, the atomizer has shorted out, or the atomizer resistance is incorrect for the power setting.

Did you drop the watts to 7 for the aerotank?

 

[Myah_June2014]

Check atomizer usually means there is no atomizer on top or the atomizer isnt making a connection to the mod. If you had fried a cana you'd know it because the screen would go dead all together, your mod is fine.

Thw fire could have been juice residue from your hands or oils on the coil itself, don't panic.

I'll add some codes the cana uses:

Check atomizer = no atty
Shorted = Short
Too Hot = overheating
check battery = battery voltage fluctuating

If your screen is still working and when you pulse it lights up and tells you something then it's prob fine.

Thank you for all that information. Screen works & says check atty but won't pulse, fore nada. I was using the build in the Zenith earlier today to drip, left the house so switched to the KFL+. Got home & wanted to try a twisted coil & something obviously went very wrong. I definitely should've had a multi meter or something but figured the Cloupor reads ohms, didn't factor everything else. I screwed up somewhere

 

[Myah_June2014]

I empathize with your frustration, but this will eventually work out. It could be that the atomizer resistance is wrong for the power setting, or it isn't connecting well at the 510 connection.

Check atomizer: The DNA does not detect an atomizer, the atomizer has shorted out, or the atomizer resistance is incorrect for the power setting.

Did you drop the watts to 7 for the aerotank?

Yep, I've never used it on there so made sure to drop it all the way down. Getting very frustrated with check atomizer

 

[Newportlocal]

Do you have another battery you can try, or another atomizer head for aerotank. If neither of those work out of ideas if the 510 connection is the newest Cloupor version and connecting properly. Sorry for your frustration. I do have a mech mod I can loan you, but it would take time in the mail to get there. Also, you would really need the ohm checker for a mech. Anyway I do know how you feel. Lots of people on here are bummed with you.

 

[Unforeseen]

Moved to Assorted PV Topics - Rebuildable Atomizer Systems

 

[Despraci]

If this a Cloupor Cana mod there was an issue with version 1 and 2. I ended up sending my version 2 back after it decided I should vape everything at 30watts. This was also known as the big pin version. I would contact your seller and tell them that it won't detect an atomizer. This could happen if a wire is loose on the inside (I don't recommend opening it to try and fix it before you try to get help from the seller).

Try a local shop to check to make sure you atomizer is not shorted and working correctly. Ask them to check one of their atomizers on the faulty device.

If the device is completely dead and seller will not help, you could have somebody replace the chip inside with a true DNA30 chip. They are back in stock on Evolv's page, but that still wouldn't fix the possible pin problem.

 

[Myah_June2014]

If this a Cloupor Cana mod there was an issue with version 1 and 2. I ended up sending my version 2 back after it decided I should vape everything at 30watts. This was also known as the big pin version. I would contact your seller and tell them that it won't detect an atomizer. This could happen if a wire is loose on the inside (I don't recommend opening it to try and fix it before you try to get help from the seller).

Try a local shop to check to make sure you atomizer is not shorted and working correctly. Ask them to check one of their atomizers on the faulty device.

If the device is completely dead and seller will not help, you could have somebody replace the chip inside with a true DNA30 chip. They are back in stock on Evolv's page, but that still wouldn't fix the possible pin problem.

It's the pin definitely, look how far it's in. Not only that, when I took the battery out it smelled really funny. Every time I put the battery in [I changed batteries, not sure if they're even good now] It gets a funny smell but battery is not hot. Did you get a refund from Cloupor or a new device? I really, really loved it but now it gots me freaked out! Not sure if I should get a refund & something different or just get a new one? Thoughts, suggestions on sticking with regulated or go to mech?
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[Myah_June2014]

I do really wanna say thank you to everyone on ECF as I love this forum. I wanna give a VERY SPECIAL THANK YOU to "Newportlocal" as he is so kind, thoughtful, unselfish & offered to send me a mech mod until I can get this problem solved & get some money for new gear. I unfortunately "underestimated" vape problems & gave my backup to my nephew so he can quit smoking. I now understand why ppl say get a back-up, to a back-up, to that back-up!
Anyway, it's been a tough 6 months as some of you know me, know I've been struggling w/ my mom's passing. It's ppl like "Newportlocal" that once again put a smile on my face & remind me that "good" is still in this world Thank you all

 

[iamthevoice]

Glad you've found the source of the problem...

 

[garpt01]

Yep, ALWAYS have a couple of backups especially if your ADV is a VV/VW. They do fail on occasion. I also had the "check atty" message after I mistakingly tried firing a shorted atty. The mod (Cana, first version) is shot. Tried everything. This was an occasional issue with the first generation, and it always wasn't a simple solution. So, I gutted mine and will eventually build it with a better chip/ board. But it's not a priority now, I've switched to Reos for everyday use, a second Cana as a backup, and a few other assorted tube and box mods. I don't want an excuse to need a cigarette!

 

[supersport13]

I do really wanna say thank you to everyone on ECF as I love this forum. I wanna give a VERY SPECIAL THANK YOU to "Newportlocal" as he is so kind, thoughtful, unselfish & offered to send me a mech mod until I can get this problem solved & get some money for new gear. I unfortunately "underestimated" vape problems & gave my backup to my nephew so he can quit smoking. I now understand why ppl say get a back-up, to a back-up, to that back-up!
Anyway, it's been a tough 6 months as some of you know me, know I've been struggling w/ my mom's passing. It's ppl like "Newportlocal" that once again put a smile on my face & remind me that "good" is still in this world Thank you all

I'm sorry to hear of your troubles. When one hurts on this site we all hurt for them.If I had the money I would buy you a device to help ease the pain, but I just can't afford to right now. I'm not sure if there is a "pay it forward" section on this site, but I know on at least two other ecig forums they have a section for that where people donate items to help people that need them to quit smoking. PM me and I'll tell you which sites they are as I think the people here at ECF frown on mentioning other ecig forums. Good luck man!

 

[Despraci]

It's the pin definitely, look how far it's in. Not only that, when I took the battery out it smelled really funny. Every time I put the battery in [I changed batteries, not sure if they're even good now] It gets a funny smell but battery is not hot. Did you get a refund from Cloupor or a new device? I really, really loved it but now it gots me freaked out! Not sure if I should get a refund & something different or just get a new one? Thoughts, suggestions on sticking with regulated or go to mech?

I would ask for a replacement. I do like my Cana mod and I do think it's a nice device. But unfortunately I think they were released too soon and without proper testing and the earlier versions are very problematic.

 

[crxess]

Center pin is Fat on many DNA mods. Atty center pin MUST protrude or the atty shorts on the Mod center pin.

REMOVE the ATTY
Power the DNA
If it powers properly, confirm the Atty center pin is protruding. MOST Aerotank pins do not.
If the Zenith center pin does protrude, remove the coil and gently attach Zenith to DNA Mod - should read open resistance.
If it does, the mod is likely fine.

Fire on a Coil = contaminants/e-liquid burn off - Not uncommon. Coil Melting is trouble.

Best of luck!